Boris tries to do a Trump

[dolf]

and has been shredded for it.

Shredded by the press,
shredded by the police,
shredded by politicians.

That he clearly doesn't give a shit when some poor sod has almost fainted right behind him is going to bother the public, more than the obvious abuse of power here.

 

[Hal9000_]

And his podium has a crown, a unicorn, and lion/dragon.

 

[doowdniw]

Were someone to lend him a comb, would he know what to do with it?

 

[Not Normal]

and has been shredded for it.

Shredded by the press,
shredded by the police,
shredded by politicians.

That he clearly doesn't give a shit when some poor sod has almost fainted right behind him is going to bother the public, more than the obvious abuse of power here.

I wish our press and politicians would shred our asshole.

 

[dolf]

I wish our press and politicians would shred our asshole.

I don't know about the police speech, because I don't know how your system works... I know some positions are elected, so does that mean that politics can be brought into it?

The boyscout speech though? That wasn't cool. That deserved some shredding.

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

And his podium has a crown, a unicorn, and lion/dragon.

One thing I learned from Game of Thrones, do NOT fuck with anyone who has a dragon.

 

[dolf]

One thing I learned from Game of Thrones, do NOT fuck with anyone who has a dragon.

In this case it's a lion. Fuck away!

 

[BigTopBedlam]

and has been shredded for it.

Shredded by the press,
shredded by the police,
shredded by politicians.

That he clearly doesn't give a shit when some poor sod has almost fainted right behind him is going to bother the public, more than the obvious abuse of power here.

Wow, the remoaners are really trying everything aren't they. Who cares, he gave a speech about police recruitment and reversing cuts in numbers, something sorely needed, and also mentioned Brexit. He's literally Hitler!

Also if a copper can't stand for the length of a speech without fainting then what the hell are they doing being a police officer in the first place.

 

[Conager]

Ivanka?

Can you blame him for trying?

 

[bellisarius]

All of our politicians going back to Kennedy have used various professionals as "props" for speeches. Boris wasn't channeling Trump per se', he was channeling 60 years of US politics.

 

[oggbashan]

I don't know about the police speech, because I don't know how your system works... I know some positions are elected, so does that mean that politics can be brought into it?

The boyscout speech though? That wasn't cool. That deserved some shredding.

All of our politicians going back to Kennedy have used various professionals as "props" for speeches. Boris wasn't channeling Trump per se', he was channeling 60 years of US politics.

The UK police are Crown servants and non-political. None are elected. The only elected people are Police commissioners who have general oversight of the police budgets and priority initiatives. The election of Police Commissioners is a recent and controversial change. Until then, no police person, of whatever rank, was allowed to make political statements or support a political party.

Chief Constables, because of their role, had to work with local and national politicians and might express the views about police funding, priorities and resources - but no other policeman could AS a policeman.

 

[bellisarius]

The UK police are Crown servants and non-political. None are elected. The only elected people are Police commissioners who have general oversight of the police budgets and priority initiatives. The election of Police Commissioners is a recent and controversial change. Until then, no police person, of whatever rank, was allowed to make political statements or support a political party.

Chief Constables, because of their role, had to work with local and national politicians and might express the views about police funding, priorities and resources - but no other policeman could AS a policeman.

Very similar to the laws regarding our military WRT your police with the exception that most police departments have unions and the unions act as their political voice. Our police chiefs are essentially political appointees. Those chiefs that find themselves in conflict with the Mayors/councils don't last long. Our sheriffs are directly elected and as such have power far beyond what one would imagine for the office they hold.

 

[oggbashan]

Very similar to the laws regarding our military WRT your police with the exception that most police departments have unions and the unions act as their political voice. Our police chiefs are essentially political appointees. Those chiefs that find themselves in conflict with the Mayors/councils don't last long. Our sheriffs are directly elected and as such have power far beyond what one would imagine for the office they hold.

UK Sheriffs are a ceremonial post only now. They are usually the deputy to the Mayor of a town (or Lord Mayor of a city) and a long standing member of the ruling party is appointed to that position as a reward for long service. The Sheriff can act as the Mayor's representative as chairman of a council meeting if the Mayor is elsewhere or for openings of new facilities.

One of my cousins by marriage was once the Sheriff of the City of London after years as an Alderman (a long-serving councillor). The position of Lord Mayor of the City of London and the Sheriff is an expensive position to hold as they have to cover all the expenses of that role, including the Lord Mayor's Show and all formal City dinners from their own pockets. A Lord Mayor of the City of London would cost the holder more than a million pounds for the year of office.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I wish our press and politicians would shred our asshole.

It's all they do....they even make shit up about him when they are lacking material.

and has been shredded for it.

Shredded by the press,
shredded by the police,
shredded by politicians.

That he clearly doesn't give a shit when some poor sod has almost fainted right behind him is going to bother the public, more than the obvious abuse of power here.

OHhhhhh SHREDDED!!

For what??

Anything and everything they can nitpick.

 

[dolf]

Wow, the remoaners are really trying everything aren't they. Who cares, he gave a speech about police recruitment and reversing cuts in numbers, something sorely needed, and also mentioned Brexit. He's literally Hitler!

Also if a copper can't stand for the length of a speech without fainting then what the hell are they doing being a police officer in the first place.

I'm not a remainer. I'm pretty on the fence, though a no deal has the potential to be a disaster.

They wouldn't need a recruitment drive if they were swamped with genetic mutants who were immune to all known illnesses and diseases, but sadly they're forced to employ mortals who are occasionally taken ill. It's a shocking state of affairs.

 

[dolf]

OHhhhhh SHREDDED!!

For what??

Anything and everything they can nitpick.

They don't need to nitpick. Ten minutes in the job and he's already on the ropes. He painted himself into a corner, banking on the opposition jumping at the prospect of a snap election. It's all just fucking depressing.

 

[BigTopBedlam]

I'm not a remainer. I'm pretty on the fence, though a no deal has the potential to be a disaster.

A 'no deal brexit' or rather Brexit, given that anything else is not actually leaving but keeping us tied to the EU by the backdoor, will rock our economy in the short term but give it a couple of years maximum and we'll be fine. Better than fine because we'll be able to trade with the world without the EU shackles and make the most of our own resources like being able to properly fish our own waters again.

The only potential disaster is if parliament actually manages to thwart Brexit entirely. That could lead to another civil war or at least half the country never voting again. How anybody can be so anti-democratic as the remoaners are being and not really be called out for it is astounding.

Our free press is dead.
Our freedom of speech is dead.
Our right to vote is currently dying.

How long before people start to take matters into their own hands?

 

[dolf]

The sky is falling.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

I'm not a remainer. I'm pretty on the fence, though a no deal has the potential to be a disaster.

No one knows.

Everything in life is a potential disaster, it’s all about accessing the risks and deciding if those risks are worth taking.

I voted remain as I thought the risks too high, but the people of the UK decided the risk was worth taking.

They don't need to nitpick. Ten minutes in the job and he's already on the ropes. He painted himself into a corner, banking on the opposition jumping at the prospect of a snap election. It's all just fucking depressing.

I don’t think we know this either; it’s a massively high-risk strategy but he’s showing very well what the situation actually is, that the majority in parliament have no intention to leave, which is why we are where we are.

We have Corbyn’s Labour party whose latest strategy is to go back to Europe and secure a “better deal” and then campaign AGAINST the deal they just secured in another referendum to remain! Words fail me to describe how utterly idiotic and contemptible this is.

Then we have Jo Swinson’s LibDems whose strategy is to ignore the first referendum and have a second referendum and if that returns a leave vote ignore that too.

This is supposed to be a democratic country and much as it pains me the only one who’s at least showing any glimmer of respecting that is BJ.

Depressing? Absolutely!

Woof!

 

[dolf]

No one knows.

Everything in life is a potential disaster, it’s all about accessing the risks and deciding if those risks are worth taking.

I voted remain as I thought the risks too high, but the people of the UK decided the risk was worth taking.



I don’t think we know this either; it’s a massively high-risk strategy but he’s showing very well what the situation actually is, that the majority in parliament have no intention to leave, which is why we are where we are.

We have Corbyn’s Labour party whose latest strategy is to go back to Europe and secure a “better deal” and then campaign AGAINST the deal they just secured in another referendum to remain! Words fail me to describe how utterly idiotic and contemptible this is.

Then we have Jo Swinson’s LibDems whose strategy is to ignore the first referendum and have a second referendum and if that returns a leave vote ignore that too.

This is supposed to be a democratic country and much as it pains me the only one who’s at least showing any glimmer of respecting that is BJ.

Depressing? Absolutely!

Woof!

None of the insulated establishment believed people would really vote leave, because they're out of touch with the real issues of the average jo on the street. None of them believed a deal would be rejected. So no satisfactory backup plans were ever made. No deal plans should have been given the same priority as the deal from the start.

If Dr Nicholl is right, that's a pretty horrific prospect. I hope he's wrong.

I'm actually all for a second vote, now that we actually know the reality of the options. I know people who have changed their minds, in both directions. Deal or no deal is something that we've never been given a choice over, but everyone has made assumptions on. If people voted no deal, parliament could no longer obstruct.

 

[oggbashan]

What I find difficult to understand is why anyone would want to be Prime Minister after the failure of Mrs May to get any sense out of parliament.

There is no agreement among MPs on any alternative to the deal Theresa May proposed. They are opposed to No Deal but what follows? Nothing.

The Irish backstop position by the EU is difficult to comprehend. Other countries with a land border with the EU can have electronic customs checks. Why not Northerm Ireland unless the EU are trying to unite Ireland?

If they had offered a time-limited transitional arrangement until those checks are operational - Mrs May's deal might have been approved - but the EU wouldn't consider it.

The EU's attitude to Brexit shows that they continue to be a dysfunctional organisation. Leaving the EU but still cooperating with Europe should have been possible. But apparently not.

 

[Sean]

What I find difficult to understand is why anyone would want to be Prime Minister after the failure of Mrs May to get any sense out of parliament.

Boris has wanted to be PM since his university days. And he would have fucked anyone to get it.

The Irish backstop position by the EU is difficult to comprehend. Other countries with a land border with the EU can have electronic customs checks. Why not Northerm Ireland unless the EU are trying to unite Ireland?

Um, no.
Trucks entering/ leaving EU countries at land borders are subject to customs and paperwork checks.

 

[Dribble]

Just as in our country, so many idiots think they understand how an economy works and are willing to harm others so they can make a buck.

 

[oggbashan]

Boris has wanted to be PM since his university days. And he would have fucked anyone to get it.


Um, no.
Trucks entering/ leaving EU countries at land borders are subject to customs and paperwork checks.

Look at Switzerland and Norway.

 

[Sean]

Look at Switzerland and Norway.

Switzerland and Norway are in the EEA and/or EFTA.