Boehner: The President won't talk to us

[Ulaven_Demorte]

President Obama invites Members of Congress (House and Senate) to the White House..

His goal: To encourage Congress to end the government shutdown and avoid a debt limit default.

18 of 232 House GOP Reps accept.

They gave him 7.7% of what he asked for. That's an unprecedented concession right?

 

[Peregrinator]

Amazing, isn't it? They say "He won't talk to us," and the echo chamber perpetuates it, even after he makes a public comment saying "Let's talk."

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Amazing, isn't it? They say "He won't talk to us," and the echo chamber perpetuates it, even after he makes a public comment saying "Let's talk."

Well, in their defense, they don't actually want to talk. They want him to negotiate (meaning give them what they want or the economy gets it).

Since they gave the President 7.7% of what he asked for surely, the President should reciprocate by accepting House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan's plan to end Medicare as we know it, right?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Let's not forget that Senate Republicans blocked formation of a joint House-Senate conference committee nineteen times in the past 6 months to create this crisis.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

There's an amazing lack of presence by the usual suspects telling us why over 90% of the House GOP couldn't bother to make it to meet with the President who "won't talk to them".

I suppose the President should have made sure that it was convenient for them first.

 

[dan_c00000]

It's not like that tried somewhere in the neighborhood of 19 times already.

1. 4/23 Senator Reid requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Toomey blocked.

2. 5/6 Senator Reid requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Cruz blocked.

3. 5/7 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator McConnell blocked.

4. 5/8 Senator Warner asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator McConnell blocked.

5. 5/9 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator McConnell blocked.

6. 5/14 Senator Warner asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator McConnell blocked.

7. 5/15 Senator Wyden asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator McConnell blocked.

8. 5/16 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Lee blocked.

9. 5/21 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Paul blocked.

10. 5/22 Senator Kaine asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Rubio blocked.

11. 5/23 Senator McCaskill asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Lee blocked.

12. 6/4 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Rubio blocked.

13. 6/12 Senator Kaine asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Lee blocked.

14. 6/19 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Toomey blocked.

15. 6/26 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Cruz blocked.

16. 7/11 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Marco Rubio blocked.

17. 7/17 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Mike Lee blocked.

18. 8/1 Senator Durbin requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Marco Rubio blocked.

19. 10/2 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Toomey blocked.

 

[koalabear]

then again the soros bunch likes to cry.

Wall Street jumps on signs of progress in Washington talks.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Tea Party: Obama's too mean!

When tea-party Republicans arrived in Congress in 2011, many were energized and ready to shake up Washington—whatever the cost. But now, some are claiming that it is President Obama who is playing too rough.

Amid the government shutdown and debt-ceiling standoff—which has raised rhetoric sharply—they say the president has demonized what they consider healthy political opposition.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/daily/tea-partiers-say-obama-s-too-mean-20131009?mrefid=MostRead

 

[Liar]

Why does he want to talk to the President when it's a matter between the House and Senate?

Oh yeah, I forgot. It's not about finding a solution.

 

[mercury14]

How the fuck did they know the lasagna was poisoned?

 

[landslider2000]

This Sturm und Drang could have been avoided had Obama merely followed his own advice about developing Obamacare in an open manner on C-Span.

Obama could still cut the Gordian Knot by admitting the obvious flaws in Obamacare and starting a fresh, open, bipartisan initiative to salvage its virtues and cure its defects.

Instead, the Administration has talked of its fellow Americans as people with "bombs strapped to their chests" (Pfeiffer) and "anarchists" (Reid) and "arsonists" (Pelosi).

 

[Sean Renaud]

This Sturm und Drang could have been avoided had Obama merely followed his own advice about developing Obamacare in an open manner on C-Span.

Obama could still cut the Gordian Knot by admitting the obvious flaws in Obamacare and starting a fresh, open, bipartisan initiative to salvage its virtues and cure its defects.

Instead, the Administration has talked of its fellow Americans as people with "bombs strapped to their chests" (Pfeiffer) and "anarchists" (Reid) and "arsonists" (Pelosi).

Dear god it was open other than a few meetings that the REpublicans insisted be secret because they didn't want to be seen saying the things they wanted to say.

Obama really can't admit the flaws in OBamacare but no bipartisasn initiative would salvage it's virtues and cure it's defects. They would dismantle it and we'd be back to 2008.

And yep, you are acting like terrorists. Is there another word for someone who threatenes to do bad things unless you give them what they want?

 

[richard_daily]

Instead, the Administration has talked of its fellow Americans as people with "bombs strapped to their chests" (Pfeiffer) and "anarchists" (Reid) and "arsonists" (Pelosi).

How is this rhetoric any worse than calling the president "a thug", or using thinly veiled racist language against him?

 

[phrodeau]

This Sturm und Drang could have been avoided had Obama merely followed his own advice about developing Obamacare in an open manner on C-Span.

Obama could still cut the Gordian Knot by admitting the obvious flaws in Obamacare and starting a fresh, open, bipartisan initiative to salvage its virtues and cure its defects.

Instead, the Administration has talked of its fellow Americans as people with "bombs strapped to their chests" (Pfeiffer) and "anarchists" (Reid) and "arsonists" (Pelosi).

Fucking Republicans handed us a seriously flawed healthcare bill. Obama looked at it, thought that was the best they can be expected to do, then signed it.

 

[KingOrfeo]

This Sturm und Drang could have been avoided had Obama merely followed his own advice about developing Obamacare in an open manner on C-Span.

The bill was very thoroughly threshed out and thrashed out in both houses and I'm sure C-Span must have broadcast all of that.

Obama could still cut the Gordian Knot by admitting the obvious flaws in Obamacare and starting a fresh, open, bipartisan initiative to salvage its virtues and cure its defects.

That would be single-payer. Ain't gonna fly, not this year.

Instead, the Administration has talked of its fellow Americans as people with "bombs strapped to their chests" (Pfeiffer) and "anarchists" (Reid) and "arsonists" (Pelosi).

Yes, I know, he is far too kind.

 

[KingOrfeo]

And yep, you are acting like terrorists. Is there another word for someone who threatenes to do bad things unless you give them what they want?

Muggers.

 

[landslider2000]

Obamacare was drafted in total secrecy by lobbyists and staffers.

Legislators not only didn't have time to read the result, but in the deepest sense couldn't read it because Obamacare is only now taking shape via 20,000 pages of implementing regs emerging from the notice and comment process set forth in the APA.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Obamacare was drafted in total secrecy by lobbyists and staffers.

Legislators not only didn't have time to read the result, but in the deepest sense couldn't read it because Obamacare is only now taking shape via 20,000 pages of implementing regs emerging from the notice and comment process set forth in the APA.

You keep on repeating that, it's no more true now than it was the first 100 or so times.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Obamacare was drafted in total secrecy by lobbyists and staffers.

Legislators not only didn't have time to read the result, but in the deepest sense couldn't read it because Obamacare is only now taking shape via 20,000 pages of implementing regs emerging from the notice and comment process set forth in the APA.

Fucking goddamn broken record. Please shut the fuck up for the sanity of the real world! Fucking hell!

 

[KingOrfeo]

Obamacare was drafted in total secrecy by lobbyists and staffers.

Legislators not only didn't have time to read the result, but in the deepest sense couldn't read it because Obamacare is only now taking shape via 20,000 pages of implementing regs emerging from the notice and comment process set forth in the APA.

You are a liar.