Body piercing - can it kill you?

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I saw this and remembered how many body piercings we had in members of the board.

BY NORMA WAGNER - THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE

The state's emergency rooms are seeing more injuries and
complications resulting from an increasingly popular fashion
trend: body piercing.
Physicians are discovering, and often have to remove, stainless steel rings and studs inserted into areas of the body they never would have imagined. The resulting delays in care and treatment in some instances are life-threatening.
In a teen-age girl's case at LDS Hospital, physicians found themselves unable to insert a breathing tube down her throat because her tongue stud blocked the instrument.
"One doctor got to the point where he said if you have to rip her tongue, just do it," said Shari Welch, an emergency-room doctor who has witnessed three serious complications -- including one death -- during the past 18 months due to the popular jewelry.
"In a situation like this, seconds count." The girl had overdosed on the date-rape drug GHB and was on a respirator for 13 hours after physicians were finally able to maneuver the tube past the stud.
University Hospital also has run into problems with the jewelry numerous times in the past year. Most recently, a young man with a severe head injury from a motorcycle accident also had a tongue stud blocking an intubation tube.
"None of us knew how to get it out," said Deborah Melle,
a registered nurse. "Finally somebody did, but it seemed like it took forever because he wasn't breathing and it definitely delayed care. In the past year, it's gotten increasingly worse."

The rings also throw off sophisticated diagnostic machines, like CT Scans and MRIs, which show detailed images of the brain in head-injury patients.
They can lead to other complications as well, like the key-ring sized piece of jewelry pierced into the genitalia of a 19-year-old college student who suffered pelvic fractures after being run over by a car. The ring shredded his urethra, the canal through which urine and semen are discharged. Long after his pelvic injuries had healed, he had to return to the LDS Hospital emergency room to have his kidneys drained because he could not urinate on his own.
"He's probably going to have problems the rest of his life," Welch said, "possibly even fertility problems."
Melle had a similar problem trying to insert a urinary-tract catheter into a patient who had a ring pierced through the tip of his penis. "It hurt just to look at it," she said, "not to mention being difficult to remove."
"It's a pure fashion decision that has potentially life-threatening complications and profound health issues," said Welch, a 15-year emergency room veteran who now lectures on the subject.
Those experienced in the piercing industry say infections do happen, usually when patrons don't follow cleansing recommendations, but that the severe cases area emergency rooms are seeing are rare.
"They work in an emergency room. They always see complications. That's all they ever see," said Benjamin Salomon, a body piercer at ASI Tattoo in Sugar House.
Staff at the state's busiest emergency room at Pioneer Valley Hospital in West Valley City have been dealing with the problem for nearly a decade and have become adept at removing the jewelry -- which comes in dozens of different shapes and sizes and has sundry ways to disattach.
"If the jewelry gets in the way, we just take it out," said hospital spokeswoman Carol Lindsay. "And if we can't get it out,we've actually cut it out with wire cutters."
But she also pointed out that in critical trauma cases, like head injuries, staff usually intubates the patient, stabilizes them, then flies them by emergency helicopter to either LDS or University.
Staff at those emergency rooms say they now know to look
for the jewelry on patients, but they admit they could use some training in how to remove the studs and rings.
"We've always been careful about taking off the usual jewelry people wear, like watches and earrings, but with the advent of all these new ways to pierce your body and the new places on the body they're piercing, if people can't tell us where they have this jewelry because they are unconscious, we spend a great deal of time looking over their entire bodies -- something we didn't used to do but we certainly do now," said Melle, of University Hospital.
One fatality at LDS Hospital earlier this year occurred after an 18-year-old female developed adult respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) a week after getting her tongue pierced. ARDS is a type of lung failure that can result from a severe infection throughout the body. "If you survive, you're lucky," Welch said.
The young woman arrived in the E.R. with a high fever. Her blood pressure and oxygen levels were "deathly low," said Welch.
Within a day, the teen-ager was dead.
Blood cultures revealed the culprit: a bacterial infection known as Group A strep.
"The physicians involved in her case concluded that because the piercing was followed by pain and fever, it was the most compelling evidence for what caused the strep infection," Welch said.
Despite at least one attempt, the practice of body piercing has yet to be regulated by the state. As Kim Morris, spokesman for the Department of Occupational and Professional Licensing (DOPL), put it: "We regulate cosmetologists and barbers, but we don't regulate body piercers." County health departments regulate and inspect tattoo parlors, but only that side of their business.

A bill was proposed during the last legislative session to give DOPL authority over body piercers, "but it just floated around the Capitol. It didn't get anywhere," Morris said.
The only legal rule in Utah for someone wanting to get their body pierced is having to prove they're age 18 or older. The only studio in Utah that strictly limits its business to body piercing is KOI Piercing Studio at 1301 S. 900 East. Piercer John Pratt was trained in the practice five years ago at a body-piercing school in California. He said the practice is safe if the piercer knows what to do, like sterilizing equipment and avoiding certain areas of the body -- like the veins in the tongue and the chord of skin that attaches it to the bottom of the mouth. Aftercare also is critical, he continued, such as cleaning the area daily until it heals, treating an infection immediately and seeing a physician if it doesn't clear up.
"Hippie," a 20-year-old Bountiful native, has had just about every part of his body pierced. He has suffered infections in nearly all of them -- his tongue, eyebrows, left nipple and nasal septum.
"It just starts getting all filled up with pus. I never healed right like everybody else," he said outside Crossroads Plaza in downtown Salt Lake City.
Despite his previous infections, "Hippie" said he'll likely try piercing again.
"I liked it, the girls liked it," he said. "It's dope as
hell."
 
Doubtfully

The chance of a body piercing killing you is very slim. I would say by far the most dangerous is a tongue piercing, because it can interfere with inserting a breathing tube, and possibly cause choking. As for other body piercings, they don't present much of a problem. A PA, through the tip of the penis through the urethra and out the bottom, could be a problem when inserting a catheter, but could easily be removed. The emergency room workers need training in removing body jewelery. Though body jewelery comes in various shapes and styles, there are basically only three types. From my own experience with my nipple ring, it has only been removed once during a surgery. I went through the emergency room, 3 surgeries and 3 weeks of ICU with no problem. It was removed during a surgery this year, and I was very upset. When I asked the doctor who preformed the surgery in the recovery rooom who took it out, he said he didn't know, that there was no reason for it to have been removed. The girl with ARDS in the article really surprised me, I have to say that's the strangest thing I've ever heard, and probably the only time it has happened. I hate seeing body piercing get a bad image from people who don't understand it, it really is a great thing.
 
Hey I love my tongue ring!!! Now as for it getting in the way of a breathing tube it has to be one of the easiest piercings to remove you unscrew the little ball and it comes right out!! I was in a car accident not long after I got it and i needed Xrays they never asked if i had any piercings well when they took that xray of my neck by golly there was my tongue ring i heard a scream and a what the hell is that from the nurse she was shocked when i stuck my tongue out at her!! Then my loving mother goes to the nurse "I know I gave birth to an idiot" I did have to remove my tongue ring during labor though because it was messing with the machines that monitored my babys heartrate no big deal I called my friend and had him run me a spacer its rubber and fits in just like the tongue ring so it didnt affect the machines!!
 
It could get infected... My sister's bellybutton ring did.

If the tounge-peircing job isn't good, then the nerves can be destroyed. You could end up with no feeling in your tounge, no taste, and a really bad speech impediment.
 
Naked Hunny- Your x-ray story reminded me of my grandmother when I was in ICU. Here is a woman who worked in a hospital for over 30 years looking at my chest x-rays. She keeps seeing this bright ring on my left side, so she pulls up my shirt and says to my aunt "Oh my god, why would they do that to him." She totally didn't understand the concept of body piercing.

Shila- Those are just old wives tales. The danger when doing a tongue piercing is hitting one of the large viens on the bottom of the tongue, you have millions of taste buds and lots of nerves controlling your tongue muscles. If you have a speah impediment it's from the barbell sticking through your tongue. Tongue piercing are actually one of the easier, safer piercings to get done.
 
It happened to someone I know. It's probably a one-to-a-million chance of it actually happening, but it is possible.
 
Shila either your friend didnt go to a very reputable piercer or your friend did the worst thing you can do when getting your tongue pierced and that is try to pull it back in!!
 
Here in NM, body piercers have to undergo training and a year-long apprenticeship. I am glad for this as one of my favorite hobbies is body piercing. I won't list what I've got (I've said before on a couple of other threads), but I will say that some areas of MY body are unpiercable.

And that's how it is with everyone. Sometimes the cells around the piercing are just unable to accept the jewelry. This results in rejection of the piercing: severe swelling, pussing, irritation, and the tendency for your skin to actually push the jewelry anteriorly (to the front), in order to try to get it out. In these cases, the piercing never heals and should be taken out. Some areas of the body are different than others, and they are different for everybody... just because you've had one piercing that was rejected, doesn't mean that all of them will be rejected!

This is not to say that there aren't actual cases of infection, but a lot of the times people confuse refection with infection.

Most actual infections are easily treatable with liquid Dial soap, some Bactine, and some saline solution. If that doesn't work, take it out before it reaches drastic proportions!

A good idea is to get a piercing when you're on any kind of anti-biotics. I know it sucks to get one when you're sick, but it's honestly one of the best ways to prevent infection.

One final word to those of you that want to get pierced!

Get informed first... know what you're getting into and how you're going to have to care for it. After you've decided to get it:

Keep your shit clean!!! If all else fails, for God's sake, take it out and KEEP THE WOUND CLEAN!

This will avoid all the nasty stuff described in the original post!!

[Edited by SeXy ReDHeD on 10-01-2000 at 11:11 AM]
 
not that everything didn't get covered all ready, but i thought i'd jump in real quick.

i had my tongue and both my nipples pierced on my 18th birthday.

i have never had a problem with my tongue,...

my nipple rings migrated to the surface and literally popped out

i got them done again, behind the scar tissue.

one of them migrated to the surface (through the scar tissue) and one just hurt a lot, so i took it out

i miss them, i wish i could have them, but my body doesn't accept them,... my nose ring i got later never got infected,

i have a pair of wings on my shoulders- my first tattoo, i'm going to finish it on tuesday, and i've never been happier

i got flames on my leg and the first three hours of work healed fine, the fourth healed wrong- it was the "artist" fault. before he even dressed it for me to leave, he said it looked irritated, it was, that was his fault.

i have learned one thing from all my work - always have your work professionally done, that's all sterile!

i finally found out the criteria for someone working on me- do i really want this person in charge of a needle that's going to go in me? you should never hesitate.

just thought i'd share,...
 
I spent many years in a tat . shop had many friends that worked there and watched many a girls get there belly button done...............Bigest thing I have sean is not keeping the area clean afterwards........nothing against girls Men are proably the same way but they just don't understand how clean they have to keep that area.....

I tongue is the same ...........they all are open wounds and need to be care for properly..............

And yes there are spots on your tongue where you can bleed put for a long time and do damage if you hit the wrong spot...Get someone who knows what there doing.......I know folks that do it themselfs but I don't advise it.........

Anyhow YES infection CAN kill you ....................

[Edited by Wizard on 10-01-2000 at 02:26 PM]
 
Cheyenne, thank you for your concern. I seems that most of the article is about tongue piercings and the jewelry getting in the way of intubations. From what I can tell, there are only a couple of ways for the jewelry to attach (screw on beads or just squeezed together) and that should pose little problem to a trained staff. I would think that the bigger problem would be with cutting the jewelry and the possibility of if taking gravity's course and lodging in the throat.

As for x-ray nightmares, I once had to get x-rays of my head and neck. After the first one, I hear "oh no" from behind the little wall. I'm scared shitless thinking that I've been walking around with some serious injury. Then the tech comes out and says "you'll have to remove your necklace". I kindly told her that she should not scare people like that.
 
For sure, body piercings can kill you

Especially when its done with a .357 magnum.


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Certainly Can!

Yes, it can. It was reported here that a woman has just died because she didn't keep the wounds clean.

Now I didn't read this thread, just skipped through so someone from UK may have already posted this.

If so fine, better to hear twice than not at all and I don't have the interest or the patience to go through the thread.
 
Give me a break!

COME ON! These days ANYTHING can kill you. I don't think that's a reason to stop enjoying a simple thing like body piercing. Anyone who has it done should have it done by a professional and know ALL the risks, then deside for themselves. I think body piercing is beautiful and very erotic. I have a few and I wouldn't remove them no matter what the risks were, I LOVE THEM! I've heard a few horror stories about piercing, but nothing like death!
 
Re: Certainly Can!

Gus said:
Yes, it can. It was reported here that a woman has just died because she didn't keep the wounds clean.

It wasn't the piercing that killed her, it was that she didn't keep it clean. Puncture wounds are very susceptable to infection. It's the nature of the wound that it must be kept clean. If she had done what she should have, (kept it clean, got medical assistance when a problem arose) she would most likely be alive today.

As soon as I had problems with my eyebrow (red and not easy to turn when I cleaned it) I called my piercer. She told me what to do and within a day it was getting better.

I'd say about the only way that a piercing could kill you is if you got some incurable disease from the piercing experience itself. What I mean is if the conditions were less than sanitary. Which is your fault too.

[Edited by Sonora on 10-01-2000 at 04:32 PM]
 
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