Blind

[JJA122]

The person telling the story is blind, so there are no visual descriptions, spatial descriptions though. I don't have a particular plot in mind, it's more of an excuse to talk about sound, sensations, tone of voice, smells.

ideas:
-There might be a dog involved.
-Pity.
-What dates do you take/go to a blind person with?
-They think you won't notice...
-Touching.

 

[sirhugs]

The person telling the story is blind, so there are no visual descriptions, spatial descriptions though. I don't have a particular plot in mind, it's more of an excuse to talk about sound, sensations, tone of voice, smells.

ideas:
-There might be a dog involved.
-Pity.
-What dates do you take/go to a blind person with?
-They think you won't notice...
-Touching.

Pity on Lit is just pitiful...

 

[SisterJezabel]

Pity on Lit is just pitiful...

I'm with you. I think a story written by someone who can't see has huge potential and I would love to read it. Perhaps another option would be to write a story from the POV of someone dating someone who can't see. Just as I wouldn't write a story from the POV of someone from a different culture to me, I would have trouble writing about something I don't have at least cultural experience of.

 

[sirhugs]

I don't have a lot of experience with people who are vision impaired* but I suspect you could do almost any date with them that you could do with a sighted person. An art gallery even would be interesting - not necessarily as a Lit setting, but to explain the art verbally.

* the term "blind person" defines them by their lack of ability, not their abilities- it's like calling me "disabled person". I have disabilities, but they don't define me.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

There is an author here on Lit who is blind and is married to a blind women. I collaborated with him on a story for a contest. He's a great writer. You might want to seek him out... I'm not going to tell you who it is, but his user name makes it pretty obvious.

 

[Smal3hard5cfnm]

The person telling the story is blind, so there are no visual descriptions, spatial descriptions though. I don't have a particular plot in mind, it's more of an excuse to talk about sound, sensations, tone of voice, smells.

ideas:
-There might be a dog involved.
-Pity.
-What dates do you take/go to a blind person with?
-They think you won't notice...
-Touching.

Is the subject male or female?
is there a fetish involved?
Is there accidental or deliberate exhibitionism by the blind person or partner?
Perhaps the blind person finds clothing to be sensory depriving?
the fore play will be good.

 

[Carnevil9]

I always thought it would be interesting to write a story about a person who is temporarily blind - such as someone who just had surgery, and has both of their eyes bandaged over for a week. And you could describe how their perceptions change while going through tasks they've done a million times before while seeing. Especially things like sex.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I always thought it would be interesting to write a story about a person who is temporarily blind - such as someone who just had surgery, and has both of their eyes bandaged over for a week. And you could describe how their perceptions change while going through tasks they've done a million times before while seeing. Especially things like sex.

The thing is that the doctors try and get you back to seeing rather quickly. My wife has surgery on one of her eyes, came home without a patch, just some protective glasses. They wanted her to use the eye.

 

[Carnevil9]

There is an author here on Lit who is blind and is married to a blind women......

I assume they met on a blind date?

 

[Bramblethorn]

I don't have a lot of experience with people who are vision impaired* but I suspect you could do almost any date with them that you could do with a sighted person. An art gallery even would be interesting - not necessarily as a Lit setting, but to explain the art verbally.

* the term "blind person" defines them by their lack of ability, not their abilities- it's like calling me "disabled person". I have disabilities, but they don't define me.

Many blind people actually prefer identity-first language ("blind person") to person-first ("person who is blind"/"person who is visually impaired").

Back around the 1980s there was a big push for "person-first language", especially in the context of HIV/AIDS. It was well intentioned - the idea was that by referring to somebody as e.g. "a person with HIV" (rather than "a HIV patient" or similar) you were emphasising their humanity rather than their illness.

In that time and that particular crisis, person-first language may have been a useful tactic for improving the care of people who were suffering severely from stigma against HIV. But it's never been wholeheartedly embraced by Deaf/blind/autistic people.

(FWIW: I am autistic, not blind or Deaf, but all three groups have pretty similar issues with person-first language. When I say "we" here, I'm representing views that are pretty common in all three of these groups, though not universal.)

The basic idea of person-first language is to try to get decent treatment for blind/Deaf/autistic people is by minimising our differences. Problem is, "minimising our differences" means downplaying/ignoring some pretty important things. Being autistic/blind/Deaf can be a big part of who a person is and we'd prefer people were able to recognise and respect that identity, even celebrate it, rather than having to minimise it. For a lot of us there's a community attached - e.g. Deaf culture has its own languages, its own art forms.

And for somebody who can't see us as people... person-first language probably isn't going to change their minds.

So, yeah, person-first language is well-intentioned, but a lot of blind/Deaf/autistic people prefer identity-first. Where possible, find out how people prefer to be addressed and respect their wishes, but where that's not possible it's probably best to default to identity-first in those cases.

For instance, if you look at the big advocacy groups representing people with these conditions, they tend to have names like "National Federation of the Blind". Here's some discussion from the NFB about person-first language - mostly not very favourable.

Also, "vision impairment" is a broader term than "blind" - e.g. somebody without colour vision is vision-impaired, but not blind.

 

[SteelPoint]

Pass the Political Correctness Phrasebook...

 

[Bramblethorn]

Pass the Political Correctness Phrasebook...

Heaven forbid that people writing stories about blind people might give some thought to understanding how to do it respectfully!

 

[SisterJezabel]

Pass the Political Correctness Phrasebook...

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[SteelPoint]

]Heaven forbid[/B] that people writing stories about blind people might give some thought to understanding how to do it respectfully!

As a Satanist, I have rights - and I demand that this member, Bramblethorn, be banned from Literotica for using language injurious to my narrow, sectional interests. I demand that my feelings not be put at further risk of hurt from this disgraceful person....

... who, clearly, has little or no interest in understanding how to deal with me 'respectfully'...

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I assume they met on a blind date?

Not really all that funny anymore, but I bet they would laugh at it. They didn't though.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

....

Well then, there is only one thing to say about this... FUCK OFF!

 

[SteelPoint]

Well then, there is only one thing to say about this... FUCK OFF!

Yep, ranting is what PC-mania is always left with when its 'arguments' are exhausted.

The problem with the PC police is that they will never admit what a godawful can of worms it is that they want us all to digest.

Now then... which downtrodden and easily-offended minority can I claim to belong to next? Got to be worth a few quid or some free publicity... that kind of thing, you know...

 

[Bramblethorn]

As a Satanist, I have rights -

Lol no. There are several different versions of "Satanism" out there but none of them are on your side here. Satanic Temple would encourage you to "Act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures" - like, say, calling blind people what they prefer to be called.

Church of Satan (LaVeyan Satanism), OTOH, would just tell you you're a whiny bitch who ought to STFU. Rules 1 and 8, to be exact.

and I demand that this member, Bramblethorn, be banned from Literotica for using language injurious to my narrow, sectional interests.

There are a lot of I demand that my feelings not be put at further risk of hurt from this disgraceful person....

... who, clearly, has little or no interest in understanding how to deal with me 'respectfully'...[/QUOTE]

Blind people: deserving of respect.
Douchebags who think it's "political correctness" to call a blind person a blind person: not deserving of respect.

Glad we had this little chat! Sorry you got offended by somebody else talking about what names people prefer for themselves, but if you were actually a Satanist, you could take comfort in the knowledge that Satanism (any variety) is pretty clear on my right to call you out as a douchebag.

Bye now. Gonna check out of this discussion before you start trying to pretend that "being told what language people prefer" is "censorship".

 

[JJA122]

Good point about vision impaired, but I see the word blind used officially and without fault. Maybe it's different where you live.
Ahah, yeah, pity is pretty bad I guess, but I didn't want the use the words 'take advantage of.' Bleh, that's objectionably bad. I like the idea of a story overcoming that element.

 

[SyleusSnow]

The person telling the story is blind, so there are no visual descriptions, spatial descriptions though. I don't have a particular plot in mind, it's more of an excuse to talk about sound, sensations, tone of voice, smells.

Well, this thread went off the rails quickly. Getting back to the original idea...

This is an excellent story idea. Thanks, JJA122.

I have a relative who is blind. Not entirely (yet), and wasn't born that way. That person's experience would be quite different from someone who was never able to see.

Removing the visual element, especially for guys since we tend to be so visual, provides many opportunities to explore "otherness." For example, the attractiveness of the other person's voice, or how well they listen, whether they'd even entertain a relationship with someone visually impaired...

And yeah, sex scenes focusing on touch, scent, sound can be extremely hot. I've written some with the characters getting it on in pitch black. Not the same, since the lack of sight is temporary, but the descriptive elements are there.

And think of the jokes you could work in. "It's okay if you want to leave the lights on," "never saw THAT coming," or "does your dog have to stay in the room?" "Of course... how else will I know what's happening?"

Sigh. Another plot bunny to add to the ranch.