Bizarre But Beautiful..Fascinating, Yet Over?

[siren101]

Greetings A/all ~smile~
I just joined this rather special family.
I thank a very special Mistress for Her suggestion i join.

As a housewarming gift, I would like to relate a current encounter I have found fascinating.
I think it is over....i think!...

To do it justice, i almost need to write a book. But i will try to summarise it.

I had just spent a week interstate, staying with a Mistress. Unfortunately, i brought a nasty dose of the flu back.
The evening i got home, i checked for mail...a Mistress from my city contacted me, from my very new Alt.com profile.

She came on like a hurricane. We spoke twice a day, for a couple of hours each time. Plus, on the phone.
2 days later, She requested my presence in the flesh.
I reluctantly sought delay, because it would never do, to give Mistress the flu.

It was granted. W/we continued as before.
She detonated one day, at my answers to a topic, wished me well, and left.
I wrote an email, clarifying my prior answers.
She replied glowingly of the time, effort and honesty i put in the email, saying that it was a test She had bestowed upon me, and that She hoped Her departure had caused a little hurt in my heart. That She makes no apology for this, as She only wishes true hearts in Her sphere.
And that She would continually be testing me.

Before She met me in the flesh, She had demanded all my pictures..suspicious, yes?
Before She met me,She asked me if i had a passport. "your assistance would be helpful to Me overseas for 10 days (at Her expense) from 29 June..no male sex, just hand Her cuffs and such like"..unusual, yes?
(She is a professional Mistress)
Before She met me, She asked if i would agree to being contracted to Her.
She is 20 years old...not possible for Her to be accomplished, yes?
All i can say to Y/you, is that Her demeanour, conduct and speech, were of an appropriate quality.

One thing She said which stays with me, was "you would do well, to treat Me kindly. I am what you seek"
(which is a genuine Mistress, real time, Total Power Exchange)

Finally, She required my presence in the flesh.
A couple of days before the meeting...
"your stay may be one hour, one day, 2 days, whatever...Present yourself without attachment, dressed as I require, bringing what I ask, and bring what is necessary for whichever eventuality"

Every moment i spent with Her and Her male slave was special. Her slave did not even blink without Her permission. I was deeply impressed.
I was in the atmosphere that my soul had long craved.
It was instant TPE..no negotiations, no limits..yet i had no complaints. Not that She took it very far on O/our initial meeting. It was gradual escalation.
Every signal i could glean, said She was well-pleased with me.

(before W/we met, i did broach the subject of limits once, saying "usually limits are discussed, like no animals, no children, no death...She replied "do not speak of these things again...these practices are beneath Me, and abhorrent to Me")

Because an appointment was due, She sent me home early morning, saying that my presence would be required again the following evening.
But...during that day, She said She had to cancel due to an all-night appointment, and would speak to me the following day.

Nothing..for 2 days.
I sent an email. No response.
I saw Her online. The reply came "'tis Her slave...i am not authorised to speak with you"
4 more days went by, then a message left from the Mistress' icq...
"Mistress is still away...won't be back for 4 more days...Her slave..don't tell Mistress, miss"

-he risks death from contacting me, because he cares for my welfare, and apparently..i am still of interest to Her?

Anyway..that was a week ago. Still silence..
It seems i am of no interest to Her.
Or...is it another test? ~smile~

omg...i hope She is not a member of this family!

I would be interested in Y/your comments.
veronika

 

[Cirrus]

My thoughts?

With all respect due to the members of this board, as I haven't been here long, it sounds like a great story, but not something that actually happened. There is something artificial in your syntax, something antiquated (no one actually says 'tis that I know) and the situation seems far fetched, to say the least.

Her male slave risks death by speaking to you? DEATH?!?! If this is really the case, is this woman someone you want to be involved with?

 

[morninggirl5]

Greetings A/all ~smile~
I just joined this rather special family.
I thank a very special Mistress for Her suggestion i join.

It was instant TPE..no negotiations, no limits..

(before W/we met, i did broach the subject of limits once, saying "usually limits are discussed, like no animals, no children, no death...She replied "do not speak of these things again...these practices are beneath Me, and abhorrent to Me")


omg...i hope She is not a member of this family!

I would be interested in Y/your comments.
veronika

I can assure you that she is more than likely NOT a member of this community. Safe, Sane, Concensual are not just words here. Negotiations and limits have been discussed many times and i cannot believe that someone with the attitude you described would remain in a community diametrically opposed to their own views.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Cirris & Morning girl.. I am with you..

I know there are some Dommes who are as we say "out there", but I have to agree with you. This sounds like a fictional account to me. I could be wrong.

I also agree that hopefully the Domme in question is not a member of this list.

I am developing my 24/7, and I assure you that the health, welfare and safety of my slave is paramount in my mind at all times.

It is a poor Master or Mistress who damages his/her property.

I cannot comment on the "mindfuck". I do not use it myself, but i know there are others who find it amusing.

Ebony

 

[Ebonyfire]

OK Siren

Spill the beans, are you serious?

 

[cymbidia]

Bizarre and beautiful, fascinating and over.
An excellent title for your tale, siren101.

Might i second the astonishment mg5 offered in the lack of SSC play between you and this mistress? In every single real world BDSM-type meeting i've had with anyone for the purposes of establishing even a casual play relationship, a very healthy interest in SSC conventions has been at the top of the discussion list for both parties. Both people want to be safe. Both people want to be sure neither gets hurts in a bad pain way.

Tests are good. We all do them in the beginning of a relationship. Just yesterday my dominant brought a whole flock of percussion instruments to where i was bent across the end of a sofa and then disappeared off into another part of the house. While he was gone, i deliberately chose the two i am most afraid of and hid them in the sofa pillows. When he returned, after a while, i confessed. It was a deliberate test. I wanted to see what he would do about such dishonesty, and then honesty, from me. In the past month, i've done other small tests of him, tests such as biting his nipple too hard to see if he would strike out in annoyance or anger or pain.

We all test each other. It's necessary. We need to see if we can trust, if we are safe. But the tests of trust you were asked for, the pictures, the seeming dismissal, the first meeting that might go for two hours and might go for two days, those seem unbalanced, extreme. No one can demand our trust, siren101. It's not something we *owe* each dominant we encounter.

Trust develops over time and exposure. It's a gift you give each other, a thing of ebbing and flowing. There are always a few limits built into the trust, especially at the beginning. One has to know she is safe before she can take another step into a trust relationship.

If one doesn't care about building a true partnership, an honest relationship, with her dominant then i guess such depths of trust aren't necessary. I suppose then all one has to be concerned with is just jumping, eyes closed, heart pounding, into the experience of being owned in the TPE, eyes-don't-blink-unless-She-says-so manner that you've spoken of so glowingly.

Most of us want a true and deep relationship with our partners, though. We want it to be SSC. We want them to care about what we say and how we feel and we want to grow with our partner, our dominant, not simply and forever be an object to be used.

Finally, your use of W/we and Y/you and O/our kinda speech is actively discouraged in this forum because, quite frankly, that kinda stuff is chat room custom and we're not a chat room. Here we deal in reality - and people don't talk like that in reality, darlin'. We speak to our dominants with respect, and we speak to each other with respect, too.

Rules/customs pertaining to this forum, info on SSC play, and how to identify BDSM predators is contained in the three stickies at the top of the forum.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Bizarre and beautiful, fascinating and over.
An excellent title for your tale, siren101.

Might i second the astonishment mg5 offered in the lack of SSC play between you and this mistress? In every single real world BDSM-type meeting i've had with anyone for the purposes of establishing even a casual play relationship, a very healthy interest in SSC conventions has been at the top of the discussion list for both parties. Both people want to be safe. Both people want to be sure neither gets hurts in a bad pain way.

Tests are good. We all do them in the beginning of a relationship. Just yesterday my dominant brought a whole flock of percussion instruments to where i was bent across the end of a sofa and then disappeared off into another part of the house. While he was gone, i deliberately chose the two i am most afraid of and hid them in the sofa pillows. When he returned, after a while, i confessed. It was a deliberate test. I wanted to see what he would do about such dishonesty, and then honesty, from me. In the past month, i've done other small tests of him, tests such as biting his nipple too hard to see if he would strike out in annoyance or anger or pain.

We all test each other. It's necessary. We need to see if we can trust, if we are safe. But the tests of trust you were asked for, the pictures, the seeming dismissal, the first meeting that might go for two hours and might go for two days, those seem unbalanced, extreme. No one can demand our trust, siren101. It's not something we *owe* each dominant we encounter.

Trust develops over time and exposure. It's a gift you give each other, a thing of ebbing and flowing. There are always a few limits built into the trust, especially at the beginning. One has to know she is safe before she can take another step into a trust relationship.

If one doesn't care about building a true partnership, an honest relationship, with her dominant then i guess such depths of trust aren't necessary. I suppose then all one has to be concerned with is just jumping, eyes closed, heart pounding, into the experience of being owned in the TPE, eyes-don't-blink-unless-She-says-so manner that you've spoken of so glowingly.

Most of us want a true and deep relationship with our partners, though. We want it to be SSC. We want them to care about what we say and how we feel and we want to grow with our partner, our dominant, not simply and forever be an object to be used.

Finally, your use of W/we and Y/you and O/our kinda speech is actively discouraged in this forum because, quite frankly, that kinda stuff is chat room custom and we're not a chat room. Here we deal in reality - and people don't talk like that in reality, darlin'. We speak to our dominants with respect, and we speak to each other with respect, too.

Rules/customs pertaining to this forum, info on SSC play, and how to identify BDSM predators is contained in the three stickies at the top of the forum.

Cym, you were so diplomatic! I wonder what is your REAL opinion of this post!
Eb <snickering>

 

[siren101]

Phew! ~smile~

Thank you all for your contributions.

Every word I wrote was the truth.
I could paste a copy of the slave saying " 'tis" but when one copies icq posts, it doesn't copy anything but the content.

This was the first time I have ever flouted D/s conventions, and I definitely won't be making a habit of it, yet I have no complaints.
I followed my intuition, and had a fascinating encounter.
In every single previous encounter I have had, I have always followed SSC conventions.
Until this.
Which is why I thought it might be worth mentioning in here.

It's a little disconcerting that some of you suggested that this was all purely a fairytale.
Thank you for your cynicism!
Would you like her address and phone number?

Cirrus, I hope you meant that there was something artificial and antiquated about her spoken responses..otherwise, do I gather you are making a personal criticism of the way I speak?
And no, Cirrus...I doubt VERY much that She would kill him. I used the term "risks death" figuratively, as a reverse euphemism for him defying her wishes, and taking a big risk.
I will consider being more literal in future.

It WAS unbelievable..that's why I posted about it.
I was seeking wisdom from those who may have seen more than I have.
It was beyond my normal sphere of activity, that's for sure.
I am a highly-respected and widely well-known and loved member of my local D/s community.
And yes..you are right...it was like living a storybook.
Curiosity got the better of me.

Perhaps I might have done better, to keep quiet about it.

I am most grateful for the constructive advice.

veronika

 

[Lancecastor]

Rrrreow.

Excuse my sticking my nose into what appears on the surface to be a rather delicate discussion, but I feel like the fur is about to fly in this thread, to which I feel male-libido-bound to say:

Rrrrreow!

Methinks our correspondent leads a highly interesting life, regardless of her relative veracity or actual rl role.

You do indeed have a wonderful brain there, my dear.

Your tale and pic(s), be they true, inspired by real life or cooked up to yank the chains in here for fun (it doesn't matter to me), should be expanded and submitted as a story.

Methinks (and reads) that you have no real question, no real dilemna, but you do seek reaction.

And I think you're about to get lots of it.

Once I lived in an artists loft warren, cleverly disguised as two commercial buildings with fake business names on the doors.

One of my neighbors was a young, stunning, raven-haired pro-domme, who also worked as a costumer at a tv station nearby.

When dressed in her street clothes, she was bright, sunny, happy, friendly, always a "hullo" for me.

When in her blacks, pulling her wheeled suitcase to the limo, off on an assignment....grim, powerful, mean, silent fiery lasers through me.

*sigh*

Rrreow.

Have fun; I think you know exactly what you're doing.

Sub, you say? Makes me wonder...

Lance "Curiosity Thrilled The Cats" Castor

 

[KillerMuffin]

I can't clear up anything else, but I can explain the problem with the language.

The Mistress's manner of speech is affected. There is literally no where on earth that you can go and find that syntax in everyday use by a group of people. We get our initial speech patterns from the environment we grew up in. They are altered by our education, the places we've spent a lot of time in, and various regional accents we've picked up.

People use, both in writing and in speech, contractions. We use a casual sentence structure. We almost always speak with active voice.

Her method of communication is not a natural one. Neither are phrases like "true hearts within her sphere." You find these things in romance novels, adventure movies, and old legends. It's pretentious and artificial. It doesn't explicitly state it, but the connotation is unmistakeable, this woman exists in a fantasy world and is trying to make it reality. She doesn't ring true because of it.

Her artifice, and that's what her mode of communication is, reflects on you because it's in your story. Her veracity is questionable, so that can make yours questionable. Particularly in the online realm where the fantasy sub with the perfect dom, the perfect orgasms, the perfect submission, and the perfect D/s inserts herself with astonishing frequency.

This Mistress's probably in lust with the idea of herself as some old world lady of beautiful countenance, gentle wisdom, a pure heart, a rare uncut gem amongst the rubbish of the world holding court over wayward submissives who are only of a certain special quality that worship at her feet. Couple all of this with her apparent utter lack of concern for the mental well being of submissives who come to her and the impression that it's all about her ladyship is cemented.

That's the impression people can put out when they affect mannerisms, speech patterns, and behaviors that aren't found naturally in the current time zone. They are not natural so they are inherently suspect. Particularly when dealing online.

I would not write a character like hers into a story because she's not believable.

Personally, I'm taking you at face value. You are who you say you are, what you stated happened did happen, and this Mistress really exists. You, I believe, are genuine, this dom, she's laughable and sounds dangerous.

And so concludes Professor Muff's in depth analysis on characterization, suspension of disbelief, methods of communication and why affected airs are not believable. Please tip your waitress, I'm here 'til Thursday.

 

[Calamity Jane]

And so concludes Professor Muff's in depth analysis on characterization, suspension of disbelief, methods of communication and why affected airs are not believable. Please tip your waitress, I'm here 'til Thursday.

This is exactly why I've never asked KM to critique my work. She makes me tremble.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Gee Siren, I won't even apologize cause

I posted my opinion. It was not meant to be an indictment of you or your "standing in the D/s community" or anything else. I wrote what I thought of your posting.

The individuals in this forum post their thoughts and opinions. No one here is equipped to set themselves up and the "Voice of BDSM or D/s". To each his or own. I felt it was unbelievable, and I posted as such, which is my right to do so in a free society. If I am wrong, so be it. It is not a big deal in my mind. I ahve been wrong in the past, and I will be wrong again. Nobody's perfect.

You took offense to it (I believe) which is your perogative as a person who lives (I hope) in a free society. As long as no one was rude or disrespectful, then the forum rules have not been broken.

No one flamed you, which I feel is a great accomplishment.

I imagine there are other dominants that may have mannered speech and strange (to outsiders) actions, like that, and if they can get over with it, more power to them.

Be as sarcastic as you like, in fact we encourage it. But when you post here, do not be surprised if you get real opinions from real people. Some of those opinions you are sure to dislike.

Ebonyfire <speaking Her mind, regardless>

 

[Lancecastor]

Two Cents....(usd)

As I said earlier, there was that unmistakable vibe of fur about to fly in the air....

A few things to consider about the last few "we're not flaming you....but" posts above this...

You will note Siren is in Australia...a British Commonwealth nation.

I am in Canada, also a British Commonwealth nation.

On paper, Queen Elizabeth II is still our "monarch"....at least I know she is in Canada....she's the Queen of Canada.

I'm guessing that you folks are in the great republic...the US of Eh, eh?

Ahmerkins have different speech patterns than Aussies and Canucks...we still have some of that Brit formality in us, you see.

And yes, we are a leetle more old-fashioned, romantic in our conversational style....and our attitudes around sex.

When I travel on business in the USA, I sometimes get labelled as some BritOldSchoolSnob...because I speak (and write) somewhat more formally than Ahmerkins. In Europe, I never have that problem.

In Canada, we have beer commercials for Molson Canadian making fun of "ahmerkins" who make fun of and are totally ignorant of anything Canadian....we also have a wildly popular tv show with segments called "Talking To Americans" that soun into a 1 hour special that has run three times (so far), with the Gov. of Arkansas, for example, congratulating Canada on switching to the 24 Hour Day, etc...I digress.

In Canada, BDSM types outside the few big cities sometimes run in either Middle Ages scenes/groups/munches...there is much more of what urban Americans might perceive perhaps as formality/affectation in those non-urban Cdn. BDSM groups because, well, they have more privacy, more opportunities to say, host middle ages jousting days and such on big horse farms...I've been to many, great fun....though yes, the language IS stilted.

And, despite what you folks suggest as the commmon parlance in the stickies for Lit's primarily American user base, the fact is that someone might just wander in from say, Australia....with their own perception of the "correct" way to address a BDSM thread/discussion/query.

Sub women from British derived cultures on Lit have always, without exception, asked me to allow them to addressed me as Sir....to which I always say "Not Required", but they do it anyway.

But being a Romantic, Middle Ages speakin' BDSM-er aint no crime, ladies....and it shouldn't affect one's cred.

If our collective chains are being yanked....so be it....but perhaps thou shouldst consideth the possibility that thine methodes of parlance are not divinely sactioned, nor universal.

Even if it does sound a bit too much like Monty Python for y'all.

Cuz we likes Monty!

"Now go away before we taunt you a second time! And bring us a....shrubbery!"

Lance "Nee" Castor, Esq. III,
Keeper of The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch

 

[RisiaSkye]

This is ridiculous. Yes, it is stilted. No, it is not common in the U.S. Despite the previous poster's claims to speak for all of the poor under-represented Aussies and Brits, we have plenty of Board members from these regions, particularly on the GB--all of whom mysteriously manage to communicate in prose without the anachronistic bent of the thread starter's alleged Lady.

To comment on stilted language does not necessarily make one unaccepting or intolerant; to me, it was just an explanation of why some people might have questioned the veracity of such archaic usage in RL.

And to Lance: I wonder if people in the U.S. might be somewhat disinclined to heed the linguistic advice of one who refers to them as "Ahmerkins." Practice what thou preachest, Brother.

 

[Lancecastor]

Interestingly....

.....I find most TrueBrits to be less OldeEnglish inclined than we backewarde parochials from The Colonies....most of them got over it a long time ago, though I noticed that the Queen still finds Sir Paul to be the cutest Beatle.

Yes, Ahmerkins was a mild dig....no true offence intended...just makin' a wee....tres wee...teensy funny at our Omnipotent BigSibling to the South. Please don't put any NAFTA tariffs on cross border Lit posts, we are not government subsidized for our internet access...I think.

Cheerfully Always;

Lance "Oops, There Goes Another Rubber Tree Plant" Castor

 

[Lancecastor]

PS...

..we're in agreement that language which sounds outside the Lit "norm" can cause adherants of the "norm" to question its' veracity and/or credibility.

It's dead wrong to do so, of course...but yes, we did it.

Ben Dover
aka Lance Castor-gated

 

[monster666]

Re: Two Cents....(usd)

Well you know, I am just a crude american, so I'll just give you a crude american response. Bite me.

And yes, we are a leetle more old-fashioned, romantic in our conversational style....and our attitudes around sex.

 

[Lancecastor]

New England.....

....is about as Brit as the Yanks ever got....lots of commonalities between the 13 Colonies and, in particular, Atlantic Canada...so you'll need a MidWesterner to call for a bite before I'll nibble, thanks, Frank. And please don't quibble...

Did you know that the columns at the front of the Mass State House were plundered from a refuge of the Scottish kings in NS by Cromwell's boys before the Revolution? True...

Besides, Monster....you're not from New England anyway; you're av was cooked up on the shores of Lake Geneva in a tres cool hotel on the road to Montreaux....not so far from Celine Dion, Alanis Morrisette and Shania Twains present-day homes...all nice Canadian grrrls gone Euro.....

Celine Dion walks into a bar; bartender says..."Hey, why the long face?"

Okay, I give up.

Lance "Not Such A Cunning Linguist After All" Castor, B.O.F.*

(Big Old Fool)

 

[KillerMuffin]

I am exceedingly insulted that you would deliberately misconstrue what I've said for whatever condescendingly patronizing idiocy you're attempting to spew.

I am exceedingly insulted that you would have the unmitigated gall to assume that you are uniquely qualified to diagnose a Rrrrreow simple because you possess testicles and, moreover, that it is your duty to do so. I was inclined to let this pass prior, but your current behavior lends no merit to the idea.

I am exceedingly insulted that you would make a ridiculously unthought out assertion that because I may be an American--and you have no bloody idea where I'm from--that I am vastly ignorant about the rest of the world.

I am exceedingly insulted that you would cast aspersions on my character and insinuate that I am being either deliberately insulting or instigating a deeper fight when I was doing nothing of the sort.

If you feel so possessed of testosterone that you believe that you are able to pronounce something so demeaning as a catfight on a group of women, then please feel free to do so. But, whatever you do, don't start pleading for mercy or begging your innocence when the claws you are inciting with your bigotry turn on you.

 

[monster666]

Re: New England.....

You know, I've been to Canada many times, and it's never struck me as being particularly British. In fact, most of the impotent-feeling jerks I met up there spoke french. Most profanely, I might add. However, the majority of the folks I met there were nice people, and many spoke a fairly american english dialect, with some regional affectations. No where did I hear anything remotely British sounding.

You can spout all the facts you want to make yourself feel superior. We understand - you yourself feel impotent and forgotten residing north of the U.S. border. But let me reassure you; it's okay. We LIKE Canada. When you come to your senses and decide to act neighborly, maybe we can all get along.

....is about as Brit as the Yanks ever got....lots of commonalities between the 13 Colonies and, in particular, Atlantic Canada...so you'll need a MidWesterner to call for a bite before I'll nibble, thanks, Frank. And please don't quibble...

Did you know that the columns at the front of the Mass State House were plundered from a refuge of the Scottish kings in NS by Cromwell's boys before the Revolution? True...

Besides, Monster....you're not from New England anyway; you're av was cooked up on the shores of Lake Geneva in a tres cool hotel on the road to Montreaux....not so far from Celine Dion, Alanis Morrisette and Shania Twains present-day homes...all nice Canadian grrrls gone Euro.....

Celine Dion walks into a bar; bartender says..."Hey, why the long face?"

Okay, I give up.

Lance "Not Such A Cunning Linguist After All" Castor, B.O.F.*

(Big Old Fool)

 

[cymbidia]

Woooohoooo!
Fistfight!
Yeh!



Okay - everyone done launching a few good ones?


This isn't about the US versus everyone else.
It's about someone using BDSM to edge toward abuse of someone else - and that someone else thinking it is/was/could be cool to be abused in such a way.

Who the fuck cares if the original poster was making it all up?
We've had such posters here before.

Anyone from the mother thread days remember the girl who showed up with a tale of having been sold into BDSM slavery when she was a girl, then escaping to marry a good (albeit much older) man who - astonishment! - didn't want to used her like a cardboard cutout slave, and so the girl wanted to leave the good man to go back to her cruel master.

There was more.
Lots more.
All of it strained credibility much more than this poster, in my opinion.

In any case, the scene and situation and persona this poster described, be they real, memorex, or total fucking fiction, are non-safe. Not SSC. Not something i'd do or play with or be involved with.

However, i have indeed found myself in unsafe situations. I've been in two abusive BDSM relationships. I've played unsafely. I've been in the ER. I've made bad choices in the heat of the moment. I've been in the middle of things that were bizarre but beautiful, fascinating...but over.

I understand the longings of this poster - real or imaginary.

It's to those longings i speak:
The situation you've posted about is unsafe.
Find someone else, someone who wants the whole you, the complete person. You can still be TPE with such a person - but you don't have to fear for your sanity or your health or your life, either.

And go write all this up as a story!
You'll be up on the top of the lists in no time!

 

[KillerMuffin]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

I believe what Siren posted. What she did post about the dom put the Dom a little out of "real person" range. And that, I imagine, is the Dom's fault.

 

[monster666]

Um, yeah. What she said.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

I believe what Siren posted. What she did post about the dom put the Dom a little out of "real person" range. And that, I imagine, is the Dom's fault.

 

[Lancecastor]

If I hear you correctly....

....you are exceedingly insulted.

It was, after all, a bit of a brou-haha some balderdash, and a dash of boilerplate over what amounted some lingo.

And some very thinly veiled flaming over a story more than a few thought wasn't true.

Me included.

I regret your umbrage.

But truly, a tempest in a teapot, methinks.

No matter where you're from.

As for testicles, if my aunt had them, she'd be my uncle.

A group of men in a thread will do the same thing with one woman present...eventually.

All BBS enviros, no matter how highbrow, can and often do reduce themselves to some good ol' fashioned "I know you are but what am I?' churlishness now and then.

A group of women will do the same thing with a man present.

So, I jumped on the grenade, figuring the big guns would turn on lil ol moi without much provocation.

So the Aussie lass with the interesting (possibly true) story could get some space.

A simple diversion with some reductio ad absurdum; a clever (?) ruse; she was getting beat up....by some very intelligent long-timer Lits with heavy creds....at least it looked like the wind was blowin' that way from here....and, it was, in fairness.

What do you get when you cross a penis with a potato?

A dictator.

A Canadian beer commercial:
Guy: "I can not have sex with you anytime I want!"
Girls: "Oh yeah???"
Guy: "Yeah...So, you wanna step outside and not have sex, girls?"
(later, guy returns, dissheveled)
Guys: "what happened?"
Guy: "They tricked me in to having sex."

Keep smilin', this too will pass;

Lance "I'm Shocked & Appalled, Truly!" Castor
Member at Large, The House of Fools

 

[RisiaSkye]

This whole thread is an excellent summary of why I need a break from this place.