Billy Kristol Call for Third Party!

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Kristol Calls For Third Party Candidate: "Important That Trump Not Be Face Of American Conservatism"


Weekly Standard founder Bill Kristol called for a third party candidate to launch a challenge against presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and the Democratic party's eventual nominee in an interview on MSNBC. Kristol floated Republican Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse as a possible candidate.

"I would like to have a conservative to vote for," Kristol said in an interview with NBC's Andrea Mitchell this afternoon. "I think an awful lot of people in the country would including a lot of moderates and conservatives... We have two candidates who are viewed by considerable majorities in an unfavorable way, not a favorable way, as the major party nominees."

"Can't we do better?" Kristol asked. "I think we can and I hope a serious, independent candidate steps forward and I think that candidate can surprise, that candidate can do well."

Kristol was asked who that candidate would be and threw out the name Sen. Ben Sasse.

Trump is a minority candidate, now splitting off the "Sane Conservatives' from the RWNJ's will leave him with about 30% of the national vote in November. Enter President Hillary Clinton, anointed and blessed by the Trump insurgency!

Hell of a Deal Donald.

One Free Pardon, no matter how vile the crime for a few months bullshitting the rubes. :D
 
Nearly half of Trump and Clinton supporters motivated by ‘negative partisanship’: researchers

The poll asked likely voters about the primary motivation driving their support of either Trump or Clinton heading into the general election on Nov. 8.

About 47 percent of Trump supporters said they backed him primarily because they don’t want Clinton to win.
Another 43 percent said their primary motivation was a liking for Trump’s political positions,
while 6 percent said they liked him personally.

Similar responses prevailed among Clinton supporters.

About 46 percent said they would vote for her mostly because they don’t want to see a Trump presidency,
while 40 percent said they agreed with her political positions,
and 11 percent said they liked her personally.

The April 29-May 5 poll included 469 likely Trump voters and 599 likely Clinton voters. It has a credibility interval of 5 percentage points.

You're Welcome non-voters.
 
You are so fulla shit, Jack.

My high school graduating class holds its 50 year reunion in 2017. I got a notice in the mail. But none of the committee will speak to me, and I was a sweetheart back then. One gander at the proposed event reminded me that the occasion is by and for the class elites. Three days of golf, two nights of cocktails, and one night of rubber chicken and dancing with ugly old hags. They need me to help carry the heavy production load. No thanks.

Ditto the GOP.

If God exists Bush and McCain and Romney will flee to Canada with the Clintons next November.
 
Bill Kristol and the rest got it wrong the whole way with Trump. And theyre talking the same nonsense now about the Trump-Clinton contest, like we don't know whats beneath Hillarys skirt. Its soon over for her.
 
You are so fulla shit, Jack.

My high school graduating class holds its 50 year reunion in 2017. I got a notice in the mail. But none of the committee will speak to me, and I was a sweetheart back then. One gander at the proposed event reminded me that the occasion is by and for the class elites. Three days of golf, two nights of cocktails, and one night of rubber chicken and dancing with ugly old hags. They need me to help carry the heavy production load. No thanks.

Ditto the GOP.

If God exists Bush and McCain and Romney will flee to Canada with the Clintons next November.

So, if they aren't speaking to you, who is asking you to carry the heavy production load? You can't even keep your fantasy weaving consistent through a paragraph, can you? :D
 
Even the moron Bush is not stupid enough to believe he would be accepted here in the GWN. Billy blows a mean sax, so the Montreal Jazz Festival would probably give him some time. I guess he can bring his wife. The rest can go to Mexico. It's safer down there than their homeland.
 
You are so fulla shit, Jack.

If God exists Bush and McCain and Romney will flee to Canada with the Clintons next November.

There is no 'GOD' Jimmy.

You are doomed to salute President Clinton next January. A Conservative Third Party would split the electorate and make Hillary a certainty, unless Bernie runs after an acrimonious convention where the Demo Establishment sucks Wall Streets dick, again. Which I suspect will be the case.

Pray that the FBI can get organized and indite Hillary for something, anything! Pray that Obama doesn't pardon her for what ever she get caught at. Pray for a Benevolent Creator to send the lightning bolt of salvation down and strike her dead on a podium in So Cal.

I fear that your hopes are to be crushed by the American Electorate which looks at an election like American Idol and votes for the one in the yellow pantsuit, 'cause they like yellow and not blue.
 
I don't think Obama would step in if Hillary Clinton were indicted for anything. I don't think there's any love lost between those two. What support he's giving here is there, I think, because she's the only one giving any indication of trying to continue on any of the program paths he has started.
 
and one night of rubber chicken and dancing with ugly old hags. They need me to help carry the heavy production load. No thanks.

What does that make you? An ugly, old dipshit?

Somehow I don't think they're asking you to climb up a ladder to hang a few streamers.

Bill Kristol and the rest got it wrong the whole way with Trump. And theyre talking the same nonsense now about the Trump-Clinton contest, like we don't know whats beneath Hillarys skirt. Its soon over for her.

Tell me again how you graduated high school? I'm pretty sure they cover contractions and possessives in high school.
 
Former Republican senator trashes Trump as GOP struggles to unify: ‘I think he’s a sociopath’

A former New Hampshire congressman and Republican said he would not support the GOP’s leading candidate, Donald Trump, because he thinks Trump is a “sociopath,” The Hill reports.

Former U.S. Sen. Gordon Humphrey, a New Hampshire Republican, made the comment on Friday. Humphrey had been a staunch supporter of Ohio Gov. John Kasich, for whom he was serving as a delegate.

Summing up the November tickets,

This week, Republican Sen. Ben Sasse, of Nebraska, wrote an open letter he posted on Facebook, in which he slammed both Trump and his potential Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton. “There are dumpster fires in my town more popular than these two ‘leaders.'”
 

Kristol Calls For Third Party Candidate: "Important That Trump Not Be Face Of American Conservatism"




Trump is a minority candidate, now splitting off the "Sane Conservatives' from the RWNJ's will leave him with about 30% of the national vote in November. Enter President Hillary Clinton, anointed and blessed by the Trump insurgency!

Hell of a Deal Donald.

One Free Pardon, no matter how vile the crime for a few months bullshitting the rubes. :D

Trump has already WON by changing the entire debate toward a populist and nationalist discussion. The fact that so many are so upset by him they spew all this hate shows he has won. The Presidency would be a nice bonus, but just a bonus.

Plus either way we get rid of that monster in the White House now. Hillary won't be as monstrous as that thing we've had for the past 7 years, at least by a degree or two. And the neo-cons are done. They just seem to be in denial now. They are gone for all intents and purposes, Trump cleaned out the trash from the GOP.

And Trump supporters ARE the "sane" ones BTW. Things are looking up at least by a small degree.
 
RedState’s Ben Howe just nailed Donald Trump as the GOP’s new ‘sociopathic maniac’ nominee

Even with establishment Republicans coming out to save Donald Trump’s political bum, RedState’s Ben Howe refuses to cave. Sunday’s Reliable Sources, on CNN had host Brian Stelter asked Howe if his problem was “the Hillary you know” vs. “the Trump you don’t,” but a true conservative like Howe wasn’t about to let Trump off the hook.

“No, I think I know exactly who I’m getting,” Howe admitted. “I think I’m getting a sociopathic maniac. And not only do I feel like that’s who I’m getting, I think that if Donald Trump was president we have four years of him defining conservatism.”

The Republicans are finding out that they have two wings in their party a right wing and an even righter wing. Tea -publicans won't stand for it!
 
Trump is a revanchist, pseudo-populist loose cannon whose "patriotism" is nothing but half-cocked conspiracy theories, manufactured outrage borrowed from the Tea Party and Lou Dobbs, and whatever other idiotic notion creeps into his demented, senile 69 year old brain at any given moment. I can understand not being a policy wonk. I cannot understand his contempt for policy wonks, when he could learn so much from them that might actually make him an effective leader.

Also, let's be blunt here. Donald Trump used to be a humble guy, used to have some progressive ideas (though some of them, like the assault weapons ban, I dislike), and used to have a degree of common sense. I remember that Donald Trump well, which is why I mourn his descent into madness or dementia. That Donald Trump is dead. This one is a travesty, a caricature of his old self.
 
What support he's giving here is there, I think, because she's the only one giving any indication of trying to continue on any of the program paths he has started.
True, but to be fair, Obama didn't start those program paths -- Cheney did.
 
#NeverTrump: could a third-party candidate save the Republicans from armageddon?

No one has done it .... yet.

Recent media buzz suggests that disaffected #NeverTrump Republicans are seriously seeking an alternative candidate to Donald Trump, the presumptive GOP nominee. With the chances of stopping Trump formally taking the nomination all but gone, their only hope would be to run their candidate of choice on a third-party or independent ticket.

Could they win the presidency this way? Not likely. The history of third-party nominees throws up one consistent theme: failure to win. As such, there is a perception among Republicans and Democrats that third-party nominees are merely spoilers who end up throwing the election to one of the two major party candidates.

With varying degrees of accuracy, Republicans still blame Ross Perot’s independent run in 1992 for the arrival of Bill Clinton in the White House, while Democrats have never forgiven the Green Party’s 2000 nominee, Ralph Nader, for supposedly sapping precious votes they needed to defeat George W Bush.

If anyone has a shot at a Third Party win, it's Bernie. With Hillary and Donald running ~47% disapproval ratings Bernie has the best shot at it.

George Wallace did pretty well though.
 
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If anyone has a shot at a Third Party win, it's Bernie.

You may be right. I don't think Bernie would make a very good president. Nor do I think that Trump would make a good president. But both, in a way, are performing a valuable service: Bernie by questioning his party's embrace of Wall Street, and Trump by questioning his party's embrace of the neo-con war agenda. I wish Bernie would seriously question his party's embrace of the neo-con war agenda, but for every time he seems to do that, there is another where I hear him dutifully echo the "Russian and China are out to get us" claptrap.

One thing is certain: both parties, in their present form, are killing the US. Anything that disrupts this hideous arrangement will be helpful.
 
It's not his party. He's still designated as an Independent. He's just a grousing outsider.

All right, then -- Bernie questioning my party's embrace of Wall Street. I have been a Democrat since 1971. Apparently the insiders are too corrupted to do the badly needed questioning.
 
When you insist on taking a simplistic view and looking for something to whine about, you're going to always be disgruntled, which probably is your goal.
 
When you insist on taking a simplistic view and looking for something to whine about, you're going to always be disgruntled, which probably is your goal.

Anything to defend (D) elitism and shitting on poor people.....

Because fuck America.

Except for the elite of course.
 
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