Big Earthquake in Myanmar Felt in Thailand and China

[gxnn]

Three hours ago, it happened in Mynamar, at 7.9 of Richter scale.

In the neighborhood of my region in southern China, some people could feel it, taking it to be head swimming due to low blood sugar.

A tall building under construction in Thailand collapsed, killing one worker. The water in the rooftop swimming pool in another skyscraper spilled out like waterfall of Niaragua.

It is not certain whether the many international prisoners of the telefraud and forced labor camps based in Myowaddy of Myanmar managed to escape taking advantage of the natural disaster.

 

[Lazaran]

Did any Uyghurs in Chinese reeducation camps / forced labor camps manage “to escape taking advantage of the natural disaster”???

 

[Lance_Castro]

In Florida, climate change allows Adrina to transport abortion-seekers across the Everglades in airboats.

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[Politruk]

Trump says the US will help in Asia quake. A former official says the system is now in ‘shambles’

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday that the U.S. was going to help with the response to Southeast Asia’s deadly earthquake.

But the effects of his administration’s deep cuts in foreign assistance through the U.S. Agency for International Development and the State Department will likely be tested in any response to the first big natural disaster of his second term.

Sarah Charles, a former senior USAID official who oversaw disaster-response teams and overall humanitarian work under the Biden administration, said the system was now “in shambles,” without the people or resources to move quickly to pull out survivors from collapsed buildings and otherwise save lives.

 

[Lazaran]

Trump says the US will help in Asia quake. A former official says the system is now in ‘shambles’

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday that the U.S. was going to help with the response to Southeast Asia’s deadly earthquake.

But the effects of his administration’s deep cuts in foreign assistance through the U.S. Agency for International Development and the State Department will likely be tested in any response to the first big natural disaster of his second term.

Sarah Charles, a former senior USAID official who oversaw disaster-response teams and overall humanitarian work under the Biden administration, said the system was now “in shambles,” without the people or resources to move quickly to pull out survivors from collapsed buildings and otherwise save lives.

But the "Christian" MAGAts are rushing “thoughts and prayers” to those in the disaster zone…





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Chernosoth]

That's what happens when high rises are built in seismically hyperactive regions.

 

[Politruk]

That's what happens when high rises are built in seismically hyperactive regions.

No, it's what happens when dumbasses don't use sheep's bladders!

 

[Lazaran]

That's what happens when high rises are built in seismically hyperactive regions.

Um, a high rise in Thailand collapsed, and Thailand isn’t a high earthquake risk country…

The high rise collapse in Thailand occurred 631 MILES from the epicenter in Myanmar.

Hope that ^ helps.

 

[ChloeTzang]

That's what happens when high rises are built in seismically hyperactive regions.

Nah, the Feng Shui was bad. This is what happens when you don't use Registered Feng Shui Construction Consultants. Too much reliance on modern engineering and not enough on traditional construction practices.

 

[Politruk]

Nah, the Feng Shui was bad. This is what happens when you don't use Registered Feng Shui Construction Consultants. Too much reliance on modern engineering and not enough on traditional construction practices.

You do understand, don't you, that there is not really any such thing as qi? Nor is there such thing as vital force, psychic energy, animal magnetism, elan vital, or kundalini.

Also, feng shui was developed when the technology to build anything taller than a pagoda did not exist.

 

[ChloeTzang]

You do understand, don't you, that there is not really any such thing as qi? Nor is there such thing as vital force, psychic energy, animal magnetism, elan vital, or kundalini.

Also, feng shui was developed when the technology to build anything taller than a pagoda did not exist.

LOL. My mom is a Dr of Traditional Chinese Medicine, does Acupuncture, Chinese Herbs, Tuina Massage, Chinese nutritional medicine, bioenergetic testing, the works. She taught chinese herbal medicine and acupunture in a Chinese Medical School for a few years. Qi is very much a thing, she fixes things western Dr's have no idea about how to cure and it really does complement Western medicine. I do acupuncture on myself and husband and it works really well....you have to really understand the theory tho and it's very individual specific, you have to know the right points, how to combine them, yadda yadda yadda. I can't do that myself - my mom taught me enough for me to do me and my husband and if I needanything else we go back home LOL. There are a LOT of practitioners who really have no idea beyond the basics, can't relate the theory to practive and just follow the forms with no real understanding - and and any western medicine practioner like a chiro or naturopath or whatever doing acupunctire after a few weeks training is just a waste of time.

My mom studied chinese medicine for 5 years fulll time and taught it for another few years part time - it's a science and it really works but very differently from western medicine. But qi is a thing, as are meridians and acupuncture points.....and did you know western massage is actually based on Traditional Chinese Medical massage. The guy who founded the swedish massage technoques was taught massage by a chinese medical dr, but not all the chinese medical aspects of what you massage what where - so it's a very bastardized style of chinese massage, as is the other massage technique. Application without understandimg the underlying medical theory. Of yuo want a REAL massage, forget massage therapists and see a Traditional Chinese Medical Dr who does Tuina Massage, or Gua Sha.

Now feng shui I agree, that was a joke LOL, but with a basis in empirical observation way back when.....

 

[Politruk]

Qi is very much a thing

If qi were a thing, it would be possible for physicists to detect it.


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[TD]If you could in any way demonstrate or measure the Qi they're claiming to direct, you'd win the Nobel Prize for physics. But why would you want that Stockholm piece of crap when you could move strangers' furniture at random, for money?[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]—Penn Jillette, Penn & Teller: Bullshit![1][/TD]
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[Politruk]

I do acupuncture on myself and husband and it works really well

As for acupuncture:

Acupuncture is a traditional Chinese therapy based on sticking needles into the dermis at presumptively precise points along 'meridians'. Acupuncture is often described as "gateway woo"[1] because of the increasing number of scientists and medical centers accepting it as respectable treatment.

While many doctors don't believe in chi or meridians, it is widely believed that acupuncture is more effective than randomly stabbing someone with needles while telling them it helps, despite a serious lack of quality randomized clinical trials (RCTs) and a nearly completely-unknown mechanism of action.[2] This belief is apparently because needles have less of a "magic" vibe than other forms of woo. Despite spending considerable sums of money, acupuncture researchers have yet to show consistent, statistically significant, and relevant effects in proper clinical trials.[3] Although a few small-sample (case, or case series) studies including an n=57 randomized placebo-controlled study from 2009 suggest acupuncture can increase fertility in infertile patients,[4] as later editorials and papers asserted, these results, "should be considered preliminary awaiting further supporting evidence,"[5] and, "[t]he current evidence showing that acupuncture might improve poor semen quality is insufficient because of the small number of studies, inadequacy of procedures and/or insufficient information for semen analysis, high levels of heterogeneity, high risk of bias, and poor quality of reporting. Further large, well-designed RCTs are required."[6]

 

[ChloeTzang]

As for acupuncture:

Acupuncture is a traditional Chinese therapy based on sticking needles into the dermis at presumptively precise points along 'meridians'. Acupuncture is often described as "gateway woo"[1] because of the increasing number of scientists and medical centers accepting it as respectable treatment.

While many doctors don't believe in chi or meridians, it is widely believed that acupuncture is more effective than randomly stabbing someone with needles while telling them it helps, despite a serious lack of quality randomized clinical trials (RCTs) and a nearly completely-unknown mechanism of action.[2] This belief is apparently because needles have less of a "magic" vibe than other forms of woo. Despite spending considerable sums of money, acupuncture researchers have yet to show consistent, statistically significant, and relevant effects in proper clinical trials.[3] Although a few small-sample (case, or case series) studies including an n=57 randomized placebo-controlled study from 2009 suggest acupuncture can increase fertility in infertile patients,[4] as later editorials and papers asserted, these results, "should be considered preliminary awaiting further supporting evidence,"[5] and, "[t]he current evidence showing that acupuncture might improve poor semen quality is insufficient because of the small number of studies, inadequacy of procedures and/or insufficient information for semen analysis, high levels of heterogeneity, high risk of bias, and poor quality of reporting. Further large, well-designed RCTs are required."[6]

Oh yeah, you could have a looooong discussion on that one,. The point I made previously is the same. A lot of practitioners are NOT well trained and do not have the expertise to do acupuncture well. Unlike western medicine, TCM is NOT "one treatment fits all" - it has to be tailored to the individual, and points used on one person may not be effective for another. The treatment itself may also be quite different for one person. and it can also be a combo, not just of acupuncture but of Tuina, Herbal Medicine etc etc etc. A tCM Dr should understand the underlying theory and how to apply it, nit just do things like acupuncture by rote.

So there is a Wooo factor there, but it's more that a lot of people who do acupuncture do not have the theoretical knowledge base and experience to allow them to apply non-rote treatmemts, which for TCM, is quite often essential. I use it on myself and my husband and its very effective for some things.

 

[Politruk]

TCM is NOT "one treatment fits all" - it has to be tailored to the individual, and points used on one person may not be effective for another.

Can't you see that that alone is a red flag? That is not like people having different fingerprints, it is like some people having the liver on the right side and others on the left. IOW, it's bullshit.

 

[Chernosoth]

If humans have qi, then the earth has many times more of it. Diagnosing the earth's qi and preparing for an earthly sneeze could be a career.

 

[Politruk]

If humans have qi, then the earth has many times more of it. Diagnosing the earth's qi and preparing for an earthly sneeze could be a career.

I don't think it is conceptualized as something the Earth can have.

Qi or Chi (氣 pronounced in Standard Chinese as /tɕʰi˥˩/, in English approximated as /ˈtʃiː/) is the Chinese term for cash an eastern conceptualization similar to the western idea of vitalism. Qi was based on a dualistic concept: the so-called pre-birth and post-birth qi. The Chinese believed that individuals were born with a quantity of pre-birth qi (determined by your parents and other factors) that was unreplenishable. When an individual used all of their pre-birth qi up, they died. Post-birth qi referred to replenishable qi gained from breath, food, and so forth. The theory was that the use of post-birth qi reduced the expenditure of pre-birth qi, thus extending an individual's lifespan.

The current diverse definitions of qi are a result of theorization about it by groups and cultures over different time periods. Generally, the disputes about qi arise due to incompatible extensions of the basic theory in different branches of belief. Some other cultures have similar concepts and call them ki (Japan and Okinawa), prana (प्राण) (India), mana (Polynesia), and pneuma (Ancient Greece); a similar concept is also found in Korea and Vietnam, and called simply qi. The Yogic concept of chakras is also related.

There is no scientific evidence for a fundamental force with the properties of "qi". Modern science currently explains all observable phenomena with the fundamental forces of gravitation, electromagnetism, and the strong and weak nuclear forces (predictions of a fifth forcehttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Wikipedia%27s_W.svg/12px-Wikipedia%27s_W.svg.png notwithstanding).

 

[ChloeTzang]

If humans have qi, then the earth has many times more of it. Diagnosing the earth's qi and preparing for an earthly sneeze could be a career.

Did you ever read Arthur Conan Doyle's "When the Workd Screamed."

https://www.arthur-conan-doyle.com/index.php/When_the_World_Screamed

 

[ChloeTzang]

Can't you see that that alone is a red flag? That is not like people having different fingerprints, it is like some people having the liver on the right side and others on the left. IOW, it's bullshit.

LOL. And yet....it works, and quite effectively.