Bestiality = ?

[rogueKlyntar]

New here, so if this is not the right place to ask, sorry.

When the guidelines prohibit bestiality, what does that include besides explicit human-animal sex? Specifically, are the following also included?:

- Human + talking non-humanoid
- Human in animal form + Animal
- Animal narrator + Animal (same kind or not)
- Non-human humanoid + animal
- Human mind in animal body + animal
etc.

My point is, Human + Animal is simple, but then it gets harder to evaluate, then suddenly its just ridiculous.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Werewolves and unicorns = okay.
Cats and dogs and dolphins = not okay.

Keep to fantastic, sentient critters and you should be okay. Alien sentient creatures are fine.

 

[Pocketshaver]

tried bringing this topic up a month ago.

All we could figure out is that acceptance of incest, rape, animal sex stories merely depend on if it fits withine the mysterious laurels pre conceived political notions.

 

[CuteSlaveLisa]

Spitballing here...

Consent, the cognative ability to consent, seems to be at issue in the examples provided.

Dolphins and cats and dogs are known entities who clearly lack the ability to consent to acts with more developed creatures.

Werewolves and unicorns are fictional characters where the author of the piece can make them as the author sees fit.

And while statistics may suggest extra terrestrial life exists, since we don"t know it has visited us, space aliens fall onto the unicorn catagory.

Unless the stories of abductions and resulting anal probes are true, but there is a catagory for that. Isn't there.

Lisa Ann

 

[rogueKlyntar]

So an adaptation of Apuleius' "The Golden Ass" is out, particularly Book 10?

 

[blozo]

What about horses? I can see it wouldn't be ok to have a man screwing a horse, or any other barnyard animal, i.e. sheep, but what if you have a female character consumed with horse cock lust training a cooperative horse to bang her?
While the horse can't legally give consent, anyone who has ever spent any time around them will tell you you can't make them do anything that they think might harm them.
A gray area here?

 

[Hypoxia]

Fuck a live, non-talking horse: no.

Fuck a talking or flying horse: probably.

Fuck a centaur, unicorn, or were-horse: yes.

Fuck a demon or alien disguised as a horse: sure.

Fuck what you hallucinate is a fantasy horse but isn't: nope.

My writing hasn't delved into such realms although I *do* have episodes with humans fucking Kong clones and hybrids, yetis, and pre-human anthropoids. I make sure they all talk so we don't mistake them for actual animals.

EDIT: I don't know if this would be allowed: Male dolphins have been known to masturbate by wrapping live eels around their penises. Hey, if no humans are involved...

 

[SimonDoom]

Werewolves and unicorns = okay.
Cats and dogs and dolphins = not okay.

Keep to fantastic, sentient critters and you should be okay. Alien sentient creatures are fine.

So I take it a porno version of Watership Down won't cut it?

I mean, the phrase "fuck like bunnies" has to mean something, right? But it can't be expressed?

Of course, if it were reasonably true to the original story it would entail mostly gay bunny sex. I imagine the readership for that would be relatively small.

 

[CuteSlaveLisa]

Don't ask me, apparently the words "sophomore girls" triggers an auto reject. In spite of the offensive sentence being "Although half the sophomore girls at Texas Tech were fucking senior boys." (BTW Texas Tech UNIVERSITY has an enrollment of 38K and has granted 200k undergrad and 40k graduate degrees in the past 88 years) I guess its my fault, I didn't include the word UNIVERSITY.

Lisa Ann

 

[ElectricBlue]

Of course, if it were reasonably true to the original story it would entail mostly gay bunny sex. I imagine the readership for that would be relatively small.

You did mention you wanted to try something in every category, but are you going for every micro-niche there is? Still, those penguins, they've given you the taste for fur and feathers, I can see that .

 

[Hypoxia]

Virtual bestiality may be rampant because in chat rooms, nobody knows you're a poodle. Many online interactions may involve supercharged beasts. Try to prove otherwise.

 

[Pocketshaver]

no wonder fido the stud Doberman hides in the corner wimpering all day long.

hes not afraid of loud noises.

he got the clap from a sex chat with Hypoxia

 

[Naughtyboy31]

Comment removed by Mod.

Per guidelines:


3. No sexual activity involving bestiality (you can write stories about supernatural beasts like ghosts, unicorns, werewolves, etc.)

 

[Hypoxia]

no wonder fido the stud Doberman hides in the corner wimpering all day long.

hes not afraid of loud noises.

he got the clap from a sex chat with Hypoxia

Your wimp dober goes all wobble-in-the-ass over a pissy poodle? Pathetic. Anyway, I'm a smurf. No dogs.

For bestiality, stick with giant mantids, tentacle creatures, and were-things.

 

[SimonDoom]

This site badly needs to have its content guidelines updated, clarified, and collected in one place. It's absurd how uncertain contributors are here about what does and does not fly. I don't personally feel at all confused by most of the guidelines (except those relating to the combination of sex and violence), but newer writers keep raising these questions and there isn't one definitive, truly helpful source to which to refer them. The guidelines need to be more specific and ideally should refer to specific examples so people know how to apply them.

 

[docoral]

Fuck a live, non-talking horse: no.

Fuck a talking or flying horse: probably.

Fuck a centaur, unicorn, or were-horse: yes.

Fuck a demon or alien disguised as a horse: sure.

Fuck what you hallucinate is a fantasy horse but isn't: nope.

My writing hasn't delved into such realms although I *do* have episodes with humans fucking Kong clones and hybrids, yetis, and pre-human anthropoids. I make sure they all talk so we don't mistake them for actual animals.

EDIT: I don't know if this would be allowed: Male dolphins have been known to masturbate by wrapping live eels around their penises. Hey, if no humans are involved...

JUST DON'T FUCK Mr. Ed a horse is a horse of course of course!

 

[KeithD]

This site badly needs to have its content guidelines updated, clarified, and collected in one place. It's absurd how uncertain contributors are here about what does and does not fly. I don't personally feel at all confused by most of the guidelines (except those relating to the combination of sex and violence), but newer writers keep raising these questions and there isn't one definitive, truly helpful source to which to refer them. The guidelines need to be more specific and ideally should refer to specific examples so people know how to apply them.

That's pretty much pissing into the wind. When was the last time that Aspasia or Fern answered a question here? Or, did you know that the lead news feed story on the home page is that Bill Cosby might be brought up on sex assault charges?

 

[Pocketshaver]

That's pretty much pissing into the wind. When was the last time that Aspasia or Fern answered a question here? Or, did you know that the lead news feed story on the home page is that Bill Cosby might be brought up on sex assault charges?

its also pissing in the wind because THERE IS NO ACTUAL GUIDELINES. ANYWHERE. its what ever floats the magical persons boat when they hit accepted or denied..

 

[SimonDoom]

That's pretty much pissing into the wind. When was the last time that Aspasia or Fern answered a question here? Or, did you know that the lead news feed story on the home page is that Bill Cosby might be brought up on sex assault charges?

True.

 

[Hypoxia]

its also pissing in the wind because THERE IS NO ACTUAL GUIDELINES. ANYWHERE. its what ever floats the magical persons boat when they hit accepted or denied..

If LIT sported actual, solid guidelines, discussions on the Authors and Editors forums would dwindle to zilch. Uncertainty keeps the boards alive. So many threads are "What can I get away with?" Those would mostly vanish. Sad.

 

[Hansdrexler]

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[Dutchboy51]

Beastiality = ?

Last week I had a story rejected which, according to the editor was rejected due to "Beastiality." No human in this story has sex with any animal, real or mythical. (some comments deleted)

I suspect that the real reason is the prohibition of vore so I intend to start a thread on the issue of vore prohibition. It's my fetish and I'm pissed that I can't post my stories here.

I fully understand that certain subjects like child molestation, or even murder of humans by other humans deserve to be rejected. Any story which might encourage pedophilia or revenge killing ought not to be published. That's clear and reasonable. What I want to know is why things which are prohibited are prohibited.


Mod comments:

First, PM any questions you have regarding prohibited topics to Laurel (the Lit owner).

Next, there are other sites you could explore to find one that accepts your specific fetish.

Last, I removed part of your post that pushed the guidelines.

 

[Hypoxia]

What I want to know is why things which are prohibited are prohibited.

Because LIT is Laurel's site and she rules. Her business model has made LIT the net's prime written erotica site for a couple decades. The snuff+underage+bestiality bans make LIT what it is. You are certainly welcome to post non-compliant stuff. Elsewhere.

 

[Dutchboy51]

I did PM Laurel, weeks ago, and I have yet to receive a reply.

I get that this is Laurel's site. I get that she calls the shots as to what gets published. What I don't get is why, when a writer asks a legitimate question on a "discussion board" the answer, after first expunging the author's argument which describes the problem simply because it mentions the problem, is "because we say so." That's supposed to encourage discussion?

"Because I say so" may have to be sufficient when you ask your mother why you can't have a cookie before dinner, but I must admit that I find it less than satisfying on a "discussion" board for writers.

Nevertheless, I cannot dispute the answer's veracity. As Murray Hamilton said in "The Hustler," "My house; my game."

By the way, I am well aware of my options with respect to other sites. Frankly, the reply seemed a bit dismissive and condescending.

 

[KeithD]

I do get that you are resisting getting it.