Best Civil War movies

[gunhilltrain]

Sorry, sometimes there are co-incidences that make me wonder who or what is really running this universe. Like this was published yesterday.

https://collider.com/best-movies-about-american-civil-war-imdb/#39-cold-mountain-39-2003

The weird thing is that my Geek Pride entry is, in the main setting, about the filming of a Civil War movie. I've only seen two of the ten all the way through, but both are mentioned in the story. A digression: I'm surprised that 1951's The Red Badge of Courage didn't make the list.

 

[Emilymcplugger]

Sorry, sometimes there are co-incidences that make me wonder who or what is really running this universe. Like this was published yesterday.

https://collider.com/best-movies-about-american-civil-war-imdb/#39-cold-mountain-39-2003

The weird thing is that my Geek Pride entry is, in the main setting, about the filming of a Civil War movie. I've only seen two of the ten all the way through, but both are mentioned in the story. A digression: I'm surprised that 1951's The Red Badge of Courage didn't make the list.

So Captain America: Civil War wouldn’t be included then?

Shame.

 

[NoTalentHack]

So Captain America: Civil War wouldn’t be included then?

Shame.

Dammit! You best me to it.

 

[gunhilltrain]

So Captain America: Civil War wouldn’t be included then?

Shame.

So I assume he fought for the Union side?

 

[Emilymcplugger]

So I assume he fought for the Union side?

Well…I don’t know.

That is such a good point. In the real civil war he definitely would, but…what’s the union side in that film?

What a good question.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Well…I don’t know.

That is such a good point. In the real civil war he definitely would, but…what’s the union side in that film?

What a good question.

Those were the guys with the blue uniforms. But as someone, he had to be a Southerner, said, "We are all Americans, but we have different countries."

 

[GlennJenko]

Well…I don’t know.

That is such a good point. In the real civil war he definitely would, but…what’s the union side in that film?

What a good question.

The "Union" in the film is Team Iron Man. They're the "established" government team while Cap "secedes" to form his own team when they try to force restrictions on him.

 

[gunhilltrain]

The "Union" in the film is Team Iron Man. They're the "established" government team while Cap "secedes" to form his own team when they try to force restrictions on him.

I doubt there was any Team Iron Man in 1864! Also, just wondering, did any of these teams have 700,000 members like the Union Army had at its peak?

 

[gunhilltrain]

So Captain America: Civil War wouldn’t be included then?

Shame.

Damn, there really was a Captain America: Civil War movie in 2016. I must have been doing something else that year. Also, the plot seems to start in 1991, not 1861.

 

[SimonDoom]

Of those I've seen, I'd say Glory and Gettysburg.

 

[GlennJenko]

I doubt there was any Team Iron Man in 1864! Also, just wondering, did any of these teams have 700,000 members like the Union Army had at its peak?

Alas, no. But they did have two dudes in billion dollar mech suits, two super soldiers, an android, a witch and the king of a fictional African kingdom. And a guy who can either shrink or grow really big and also Spider-Man and a dude with a bow and arrow.

 

[AwkwardMD]

I'll just leave this link to an extremely informative American Civil War playlist here.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwCiRao53J1y_gqJJOH6Rcgpb-vaW9wF0

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Sorry, sometimes there are co-incidences that make me wonder who or what is really running this universe. Like this was published yesterday.

https://collider.com/best-movies-about-american-civil-war-imdb/#39-cold-mountain-39-2003

The weird thing is that my Geek Pride entry is, in the main setting, about the filming of a Civil War movie. I've only seen two of the ten all the way through, but both are mentioned in the story. A digression: I'm surprised that 1951's The Red Badge of Courage didn't make the list.

Someone else has done the 'which Civil War' joke (the play 55 Days would be my nomination for the English one).

Cold Mountain is the only one of those films I've both seen and liked.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Alas, no. But they did have two dudes in billion dollar mech suits, two super soldiers, an android, a witch and the king of a fictional African kingdom. And a guy who can either shrink or grow really big and also Spider-Man and a dude with a bow and arrow.

You have to realize that I'm 68 (today!), so I've lost track (and interest) in much of popular culture after about 2010 or even earlier. I think it's inevitable.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Someone else has done the 'which Civil War' joke (the play 55 Days would be my nomination for the English one).

Cold Mountain is the only one of those films I've both seen and liked.

Ah, what's the joke?

 

[Vgman]

Someone else has done the 'which Civil War' joke (the play 55 Days would be my nomination for the English one).

Cold Mountain is the only one of those films I've both seen and liked.

I guess someone should stipulate which and whose civil war, my favorite movies about the American civil war are Gettysburg, Glory, Red Badge of a courage, and The Outlaw Josie Wales

And since you brought it up, my favorite movie about the English civil war is Cromwell staring Richard Harris and Alec Guinness

 

[gunhilltrain]

Someone else has done the 'which Civil War' joke (the play 55 Days would be my nomination for the English one).

Cold Mountain is the only one of those films I've both seen and liked.

My take on Cold Mountain (I've only seen the movie; and haven't read the book) and I saw the film well over ten years ago: a worthy effort, but it's also - I'm not sure, a bit melodramatic? Renée Zellweger's hillbilly act gets a bit tiresome. And I know Nicole Kidman's character is supposed to be from Charleston, SC, but she doesn't seem very Southern. I guess she put on an accent for the role; I hardly remember.

By the way, in my story the main character (Amanda) mentions that the Crater battle scene in that film is very condensed and not entirely accurate.

I know that Charles Frazier did a lot of research for the novel. Maybe I should read that and make a comparison.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I guess someone should stipulate which and whose civil war, my favorite movies about the American civil war are Gettysburg, Glory, Red Badge of a courage, and The Outlaw Josie Wales

And since you brought it up, my favorite movie about the English civil war is Cromwell staring Richard Harris and Alec Guinness

Was I going to answer this? I guess I did with Simon Doom's post below.

 

[SimonDoom]

And since you brought it up, my favorite movie about the English civil war is Cromwell staring Richard Harris and Alec Guinness

That's the ONLY English Civil War movie I can think of. It's hard to go wrong with Alec Guinness and Richard Harris.

 

[Comshaw]

Sorry, sometimes there are co-incidences that make me wonder who or what is really running this universe. Like this was published yesterday.

https://collider.com/best-movies-about-american-civil-war-imdb/#39-cold-mountain-39-2003

The weird thing is that my Geek Pride entry is, in the main setting, about the filming of a Civil War movie. I've only seen two of the ten all the way through, but both are mentioned in the story. A digression: I'm surprised that 1951's The Red Badge of Courage didn't make the list.

Really? Who the hell put that list together? How can they even think that a movie like "The General" should be on this list while simultaneously leaving "The Red Badge of Courage " off? That's like stating that "The Summer of 42" or "Boloxi Blues" are two of the greatest movies about WWII and ignoring "Shindler's List".

And while I love "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" having the Civil War as a backdrop for the movie doesn't make it a movie about the war, and to put it in first place is even more heinous.

All in all I'd say this list is a perfect example of why I pay little attention to critics. Most are expounding a personal opinion of things which most times doesn't match how I feel about it. And sometimes, like this time, it lacks any kind of logic.

Comshaw

 

[gunhilltrain]

That's the ONLY English Civil War movie I can think of. It's hard to go wrong with Alec Guinness and Richard Harris.

Wow, the English Civil War. I'm sure that most Americans have never heard of it. I think I studied it in college, but I'm not up to speed on that one. I haven't seen Cromwell either.

Strictly speaking, a "civil war" is when two or more sides are vying to take control of an entire country (one seat of government one might say). So the wars in England and Spain would qualify. The war in America was a "war of succession" (which some Southerners still prefer to call it) in which one part of a country tries to break away and form a new nation. The Nigeria-Biafra war was another example of that. They are called civil wars anyway.

 

[Comshaw]

Wow, the English Civil War. I'm sure that most Americans have never heard of it. I think I studied it in college, but I'm not up to speed on that one. I haven't seen Cromwell either.

Strictly speaking, a "civil war" is when two or more sides are vying to take control of an entire country (one seat of government one might say). So the wars in England and Spain would qualify. The war in America was a "war of succession" (which some Southerners still prefer to call it) in which one part of a country tries to break away and form a new nation. The Nigeria-Biafra war was another example of that. They are called civil wars anyway.

Strictly speaking, you are correct. Over time though "civil war" has taken on the meaning of one faction of a nation fighting another faction no matter the reason for it. Incorrect label? Yes. But sometimes popular conception and usage trumps correctness.

Comshaw

 

[gunhilltrain]

Really? Who the hell put that list together? How can they even think that a movie like "The General" should be on this list while simultaneously leaving "The Red Badge of Courage " off? That's like stating that "The Summer of 42" or "Boloxi Blues" are two of the greatest movies about WWII and ignoring "Shindler's List".

And while I love "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" having the Civil War as a backdrop for the movie doesn't make it a movie about the war, and to put it in first place is even more heinous.

All in all I'd say this list is a perfect example of why I pay little attention to critics. Most are expounding a personal opinion of things which most times doesn't match how I feel about it. And sometimes, like this time, it lacks any kind of logic.

Comshaw

The word "heinous" should be reserved for people like Jeffrey Dahmer or even the Nazis, not a list of movies. As for myself, I'm always expounding personal opinions and I often lack logic too.

 

[SimonDoom]

I think one would have to include Lincoln as well. Although the focus is on the president and the war is a backdrop, the war is still an important part of the movie. And Daniel Day Lewis's portrait of Lincoln is astonishing.

 

[Comshaw]

The word "heinous" should be reserved for people like Jeffrey Dahmer or even the Nazis, not a list of movies. As for myself, I'm always expounding personal opinions and I often lack logic too.

I must needs disagree with your insistence on the misuse of the word "heinous". It was used appropriately. One of the synonyms for "heinous" is "odious". If you prefer substitute the latter for the former. I too can lack logic in my opinions. While recognizing I do, I can't see it in myself while clearly seeing it in others. Nothing like being a flawed complicated human huh?

Comshaw