Bernie Sanders

Cruel. But I read a recent analysis of why Hillary is killing Bernie with older voters, Blacks, Latinos, women. Bernie supporters have nothing to lose -- mostly college-educated and white, with little chance of suffering much under any other Prez, even Cruz or Tromp. Hillary's constituents DO face losing a lot if any GOP wins. It boils down to self-interest: Who will do the most to protect me? Most do not see Bernie as any sort of savior.

Make no mistake -- I think Bernie is the most moral of the lot. But I won't suffer if Hillary wins.
 
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All but the elite will suffer under (R)odham.....she's going to continue letting Wall St. fuck all of us right up the ass.
 
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All but the elite will suffer under (R)odham.....she's going to continue letting Wall St. fuck all of us right up the ass.
My partner and I are certainly not elite -- living in a "modular home" (trailer) in a poor county on US$35k a year -- but I rather doubt Hillary will cut off our Social Security and Medicare, freeze our accounts, probe us as dissidents, etc. Would we prosper more under a Sanders administration and Dem congress? Maybe. Under Bernie with a GOP congress? Probably not.

Yes, Hillary is a DINO corporate whore -- I've beaten that drum for months here. All GOPs I know of are worse. Yes, we support Bernie. But guess what? Most Sanders supporters have little to lose under any presidency. Hillary's supporters (the non-corporate ones) DO have much to lose under any GOP regime. The calculus is ugly but real. Tromp or Cruz or Ryan or Romney or whoever emerges from Cleveland will righteously fuck-up the country. Bernie or Hillary dealing with a GOP congress will face the same Obama-era fucktard obstructionism. Don't expect much progress.

I have a dream... Tromp vs Bernie, and Bernie wins; GOPs lose control of congress and many statehouses and governorships; those liberated state legislatures un-gerrymander their districts; Faux Nuze goes bankrupt; Rush Limbo OD's on oxycontin; a new era of peace and prosperity dawns; etc.

Get those fucking reindeer off my roof.
 
My partner and I are certainly not elite -- living in a "modular home" (trailer) in a poor county on US$35k a year --

You would have the opportunity to change that if it weren't for California's hatred of upward mobility and corporate goon politicians like (R)odham supporting that hatred.

Enjoy your 35k a year.
 
I have a dream... Tromp vs Bernie, and Bernie wins; GOPs lose control of congress and many statehouses and governorships; those liberated state legislatures un-gerrymander their districts; Faux Nuze goes bankrupt; Rush Limbo OD's on oxycontin; a new era of peace and prosperity dawns; etc.

Faux Nuze /Rush Limbo thrives on complaining about democrats and liberals. They'd be more popular than ever.

I'm disappointed that you missed Bernie's most important campaign point- OVERTURNING CITIZEN"S UNITED, either by Supreme Court decision or Constitutional Amendment. Otherwise, reform is but temporary. A corporation is not a person. It is legal fiction. It has no conscience or religion. No psychological harm is done to it when it pays for birth control according to law. It is not entitled to launder money from foreign and commercial interests and spend unlimited amounts to lie in elections, rather they should be subject to truth in advertising laws. They don't vote, or get counted in the census. They can be bought and sold and dissected without consent.

Corporations are not people.
 
I'm disappointed that you missed Bernie's most important campaign point- OVERTURNING CITIZEN"S UNITED,

Corporations are not people.


These things hurt Clintonz soul....so SR won't support that, he loves corporations shitting on America and paying congress to fuck the poor for every penny possible.
 
Do not. I simply don't think things are as bad as you make them out to be and that some of the things you are focused on are impossible to change. Hell will freeze before Citizens United goes away.
 
If Corporations are citizens, then it stands to reason when a Corporation breaks the law, the entire board of directors should go to jail!

Just one little bill would make the Banks much more civic minded.
 
Do not. I simply don't think things are as bad as you make them out to be and that some of the things you are focused on are impossible to change. Hell will freeze before Citizens United goes away.

Oh bullshit. It takes YEARS of bureaucracy to open any number of simple businesses in CA that in practically every other state are as simple as filling out the form and hocking 200 bucks, BOOM in bidnizz. Not in CA oh no no no...can't have poor people making money for themselves! Fuck that shit!

Everyone in Sac fuckin fights day and night over who gets to pocket what industry and then they write a mountain of bullshit to 'regulate' it....right into the elites pockets and fuck poor/uncool people. I think you would be hard pressed to find another state as hostile to business as California.


That's hatred of upward mobility pure and simple.

I'm not saying the US is bad, it's a far cry better than most places....but there is HUGE room for improvement. And Goldmans Golden girl (R)odham isn't going to do anyone not a billionaire any fucking good. She will throw the 99% under the fuckin bus day 1.

They are only impossible and hell only has to freeze over because we keep putting the same group of scum back into office over and over again because CNN/FOX tell us to.
 
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Oh bullshit. It takes YEARS of bureaucracy to open any number of simple businesses in CA that in practically every other state are as simple as filling out the form and hocking 200 bucks, BOOM in bidnizz. Not in CA oh no no no...can't have poor people making money for themselves! Fuck that shit!

Everyone in Sac fuckin fights day and night over who gets to pocket what industry and then they write a mountain of bullshit to 'regulate' it....right into the elites pockets and fuck poor/uncool people. I think you would be hard pressed to find another state as hostile to business as California.


That's hatred of upward mobility pure and simple.

I'm not saying the US is bad, it's a far cry better than most places....but there is HUGE room for improvement. And Goldmans Golden girl (R)odham isn't going to do anyone not a billionaire any fucking good.

They are only impossible and hell only has to freeze over because we keep putting the same group of scum back into office over and over again because CNN/FOX tell us to.

Rhode Island is pretty bad. RI ranks 48-50 in any type of business and employment stat you can come up with. We are also one of only two 'at will' states, meaning you could work for a company for thirty years, never do anything wrong and they can fire you with no reason at all, then deny you collecting unemployment while they hire someone at far less than what you made.

This state is a fucking pit and the new tolls they passed fro trucks? Will crush what's left. UPS already said they are leaving when their time is up here.

My company might have 1-2 years left at its current rate of decline and seeing as my wife can get a job pretty much anywhere and my daughters are adults, we are thinking of joining the rest of the fleeing population and leaving.
 
Rhode Island is pretty bad. RI ranks 48-50 in any type of business and employment stat you can come up with. We are also one of only two 'at will' states, meaning you could work for a company for thirty years, never do anything wrong and they can fire you with no reason at all, then deny you collecting unemployment while they hire someone at far less than what you made.

This state is a fucking pit and the new tolls they passed fro trucks? Will crush what's left. UPS already said they are leaving when their time is up here.

My company might have 1-2 years left at its current rate of decline and seeing as my wife can get a job pretty much anywhere and my daughters are adults, we are thinking of joining the rest of the fleeing population and leaving.

Yep....

If CA doesn't give me a licence or doesn't give me one soon enough I'll be liquidating and rolling out, probably to Alaska.

If they do though I'll buy my own congress critters and start voting for Hillary types myself.
 
You guys have your Sanders fan thread. This is a Sanders hate thread. I think that's only fair that if I respect your space (I won't post in that thread bashing Sanders anymore) that I get this thread that won't be derailed.
 
You guys have your Sanders fan thread. This is a Sanders hate thread. I think that's only fair that if I respect your space (I won't post in that thread bashing Sanders anymore) that I get this thread that won't be derailed.

It doesn't say that in the title. It just says Bernie Sanders. And besides nobody minds if you come over and say shit as longas youre not just spamming.


Those are not the only two options. The minimum wage and unemployment are a lot less linked in reality than you think.
 
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