Bernie Sanders’s strange behavior

[james_1957]

To my friends in the Democratic Party: Please, please choose Bernie as your presidential candidate in 2020!

Bernie Sanders has embarked on a “Come Together and Fight Back” tour with with Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez. But he's not really helping on that first part.

Over the last few days, Sanders's has at times offered some odd comments for a guy pushing for Democratic unity.

To wit:

•He said that he still isn't actually a Democrat

•He repeated his line that President Trump “did not win the election; the Democrats lost the election” — drawing some angry responses from Hillary Clinton supporters who see this as either a shot at her or as something that Sanders's primary campaign contributed to (or both)

•Sanders's message has differed from Perez's in a couple key ways

But the most puzzling development this week is Sanders's decision to keep Georgia special election candidate Jon Ossoff at arms-length. Sanders hasn't endorsed Ossoff, and in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, he seemed to suggest Ossoff's progressive bona fides were in question.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...erss-strange-behavior/?utm_term=.1acdbceaf577

 

[OldJourno]

To my friends in the Democratic Party: Please, please choose Bernie as your presidential candidate in 2020!

But the most puzzling development this week is Sanders's decision to keep Georgia special election candidate Jon Ossoff at arms-length. Sanders hasn't endorsed Ossoff, and in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, he seemed to suggest Ossoff's progressive bona fides were in question.

]

Perhaps he's cool to Ossoff because the candidate portrayed himself as to the right of Reagan in the primary.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Sanders will never run for president again, he's too old. He matters only as a symbol of the movement his followers are starting, left-wing-tea-party organizations like the Justice Democrats.

 

[about_average]

•He repeated his line that President Trump “did not win the election; the Democrats lost the election” — drawing some angry responses from Hillary Clinton supporters who see this as either a shot at her or as something that Sanders's primary campaign contributed to (or both)

Pretty accurate statement. Any half decent Dem candidate would have trounced him.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Pretty accurate statement. Any half decent Dem candidate would have trounced him.

How was Clinton not half decent? She was the most thoroughly qualified candidate, D or R, in the whole field that whole year. Her campaign was very well-funded, very well-organized, and had a great ground game -- all much better than Trump's. No, his victory is a symptom of severe illness in the American psyche.

 

[Miles]

Pretty accurate statement. Any half decent Dem candidate would have trounced him.

True dat.

 

[water505]

How was Clinton not half decent? She was the most thoroughly qualified candidate, D or R, in the whole field that whole year. Her campaign was very well-funded, very well-organized, and had a great ground game -- all much better than Trump's. No, his victory is a symptom of severe illness in the American psyche.

Classic post from a leftist.

Hillary was at best a slimy lawyer who married well (so to speak), an invisible Senator, a corrupt SOS, and a proven liar. Her campaign perfectly reflected her personality - overconfident, arrogant, and full of hate. Her loss was a self-inflicted wound. Trump's victory represented the rejection of the damage Democrats have inflicted on the country. People are sick of them.

You sound like a player who whines about his team outplaying their opponent but losing the game.

It's over, but you'll never stop grieving. Time to move on, if you can.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

How was Clinton not half decent? She was the most thoroughly qualified candidate, D or R, in the whole field that whole year. Her campaign was very well-funded, very well-organized, and had a great ground game -- all much better than Trump's. No, his victory is a symptom of severe illness in the American psyche.

Classic post from a leftist.

Hillary was at best a slimy lawyer who married well (so to speak), an invisible Senator, a corrupt SOS, and a proven liar. Her campaign perfectly reflected her personality - overconfident, arrogant, and full of hate. Her loss was a self-inflicted wound. Trump's victory represented the rejection of the damage Democrats have inflicted on the country. People are sick of them.

You sound like a player who whines about his team outplaying their opponent but losing the game.

It's over, but you'll never stop grieving. Time to move on, if you can.

I just hope that enough of KO's party are as delusional as he is and refuse to learn (or reform) from the mistakes of the past...

:nods:

Sincerely.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Hillary was at best a slimy lawyer who married well (so to speak), an invisible Senator, a corrupt SOS, and a proven liar. Her campaign perfectly reflected her personality - overconfident, arrogant, and full of hate.

All lies and bullshit. Hillary Clinton is better than you, and -- like the stuff I occasionally scrape off my shoe -- far, far better than Trump.

 

[about_average]

How was Clinton not half decent? She was the most thoroughly qualified candidate, D or R, in the whole field that whole year. Her campaign was very well-funded, very well-organized, and had a great ground game -- all much better than Trump's. No, his victory is a symptom of severe illness in the American psyche.

On paper, yes, but she was so badly tarnished I'd have been surprised if she won against a turnip.

But just on a high level she was way too secretive, in some respects justifiably so, to be at all an effective or trustworthy president.

I said as soon as it came out about her email system that it was an extremely poor/flawed decision. Such a decision about something so minor with such critical ramifications means I wouldn't trust her with the big decisions.

 

[water505]

All lies and bullshit. Hillary Clinton is better than you, and -- like the stuff I occasionally scrape off my shoe -- far, far better than Trump.

You sound like a fourth grader. Yes, she's taken pathological lying and corruption to an entirely new level, and you know it.

As for scraping stuff of your shoe try removing your head from your ass so you can see where you're going.

 

[Rightguide]

All lies and bullshit. Hillary Clinton is better than you, and -- like the stuff I occasionally scrape off my shoe -- far, far better than Trump.

Hillary Clinton has proven by example that she's unfit for public office. She's a corrupt, untrustworthy, unpatriotic, psychologically and physically flawed example of the prototypical Democrat totalitarian.

 

[KingOrfeo]

You sound like a fourth grader. Yes, she's taken pathological lying and corruption to an entirely new level, and you know it.

You're lying and you know it.

Hillary Clinton has proven by example that she's unfit for public office. She's a corrupt, untrustworthy, unpatriotic, psychologically and physically flawed example of the prototypical Democrat totalitarian.

You too, and, "physically flawed"?! What's that all about?! Physically, she's a Greek goddess compared to Trump!

 

[Rightguide]

You're lying and you know it.



You too, and, "physically flawed"?! What's that all about?! Physically, she's a Greek goddess compared to Trump!

More bullshit. She's unhealthy and had nowhere near the energy level of Trump which was woefully demonstrated during her failed campaign. She even had to take time off from the campaign trail to overcome its rigors. The fact is he campaigned more than she did and spent less money doing it.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/13/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-numbers-trips/index.html

 

[KingOrfeo]

More bullshit. She's unhealthy and had nowhere near the energy level of Trump which was woefully demonstrated during her failed campaign. She even had to take time off from the campaign trail to overcome its rigors. The fact is he campaigned more than she did and spent less money doing it.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/13/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-numbers-trips/index.html

That is all bullshit, every word, and what is worse, you actually believe Trump is healthy?! He very probably has Alzheimer's!

 

[Rightguide]

That is all bullshit, every word, and what is worse, you actually believe Trump is healthy?! He very probably has Alzheimer's!

Your delusions leave you intellectually crippled.

 

[Lancecastor]

I never forgave Bernie for stealing June Carter's zither.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cf81vsmUkAAKGkl.jpg

 

[sr71plt]

You can pretty well figure out what Sanders is actually going to get done by looking at what he's gotten done in his years in the Senate--he established the names of two post office buildings. And, no, he's not a Democrat. Let him build his own party.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Your delusions leave you intellectually crippled.

The Alzheimer's symptoms are real.

The most egregious parts of Donald Trump’s personality—his racism, his misogyny and his lack of scruples or ethics—have been on display for more than four decades. All of those traits have long been part of Trump’s unapologetic public persona. But in recent years, Trump has become an even more extreme version of himself. The behaviors that accompany that shift could be closely correlated with dementia and a general cognitive decline.

A blogger at the Neurocritic laid out what he sees as proof of Trump’s mental deterioration. He notes that President Ronald Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s at age 83, though he began to manifest symptoms far earlier. Researchers have combed through records of off-the-cuff speeches Reagan delivered and found significant declines in his mastery of language. By his second term, Reagan’s speech showed a deep drop-off in the use of unique words; a marked increase in the use of non-specific nouns (thing, something, anything); an uptick in filler words (well, so, basically, actually, literally, um, ah); and a greater use of low-imageability, high frequency verbs (get, give, go, have, do).

Trump seems to have parallels in all these areas. He has become notorious for his word salads, incomprehensible soliloquies delivered at the speaking level of a fourth-grader. He frequently falls back on words like “tremendous” and often drags on without using specifics. Trump often speaks at length while saying nothing.

<snip>

In the clip below, David Pakman shows how typical Trump bluster could actually be indicative of something more problematic. He compares old footage of Trump to the Trump of today, and looks at how Trump's physical problems may also be linked to Alzheimer's:

<snip>

At 70 years old, Trump is the oldest person to be elected president. His father Fred was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease six years before his death. According to the Alzheimer’s Association, “age, family history and heredity” are the most important risk factors in developing the disease. Most sufferers start to show signs of the illness at age 65.

Remember when Trump forgot which country he’d just bombed? When it just slipped his mind to sign a pair of executive orders during an event created for that explicit purpose? When he couldn’t locate Rudy Giuliani, who was sitting directly across from him at a media briefing? Those things don’t seem like innocuous senior moments.

Trump also seems to exhibit other signs of Alzheimer's listed by health organizations. Moodiness, paranoia, belligerence and erratic behavior are all key indicators of the onset of dementia. Trump’s inappropriate tweets, his belief that his phones are tapped and his quickness to anger, as described by his staff, all fit the bill.

 

[KingOrfeo]

You can pretty well figure out what Sanders is actually going to get done by looking at what he's gotten done in his years in the Senate--he established the names of two post office buildings. And, no, he's not a Democrat. Let him build his own party.

Better still, let his followers take over the Democratic Party.

 

[chillywilly2]

You too, and, "physically flawed"?! What's that all about?! Physically, she's a Greek goddess !

I needed to quote this

 

[KingOrfeo]

I needed to quote this

Well, she is compared to Trump. He's the butt-ugliest POTUS since Lincoln.

 

[sr71plt]

Better still, let his followers take over the Democratic Party.

Hardly. They've already shown they are pie-in-the-sky unrealistic. I believe they made the difference in the party losing. Their loyalty was to Sanders personally, not a Democratic Party win across the board, and I think they got pissed that the non-Democrat who tried to steal the party (and came close to succeeding) didn't succeed and then failed to appreciate that it was still in their real interest to get Democrats elected.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Hardly. They've already shown they are pie-in-the-sky unrealistic.

Not about public policy, they're not. What they say America needs is what America needs.

 

[sr71plt]

Not about public policy, they're not. What they say America needs is what America needs.

They were/are as clueless of how to actually get it as Sanders was/is.