Bernie backers' attacks on Democrats infuriate the party

[TalkRadio]

Prominent Democrats are increasingly riled by attacks from Bernie Sanders' supporters, whose demands for ideological purity are hurting the party ahead of the 2018 midterms and 2020 presidential election, they say.

But it’s not just the outside agitators that Democratic lawmakers, operatives and activists are annoyed with: They’re tired of what they see as the Vermont senator’s hesitance to confront his own backers, either in public or through back channels.

“The Democratic Party has treated Sen. Sanders exceptionally well. We collectively let him run in our primaries when he declared he wasn’t a Democrat — I count that as a great favor, and an opportunity almost no one else has ever received,” said former Democratic National Committee Chairman Don Fowler, who has called for the independent Sanders to formally join the party.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/08/bernie-backers-attacks-infuriate-democrats-242386

 

[EternalFantasies]

He shouldn't join the party...

The Democrats do not need to reach further lows...

 

[richard_daily]

Sanders has the best reputation of any congressperson, and anyone in the white house.

Sucks to be the establishment dems or republicans.

 

[coachdb18]

Democrats went to great lengths, and were caught going to those great lengths, to insure the election was totally rigged to be a coronation for Hillary... and NOW they get pissed at Bernie and his supporters for not simply rolling over for a belly rub?

 

[Hypoxia]

If Sanders backers want to run the Dum party, they'll have to seize it, maybe like Tromp sort of took the Gups. How? Overwhelm and scare off the corporate establishment that holds the keys to party power. How? Run to take over precinct, city, county, district Dum committees, public councils, school boards, community charities.

Then take district and state offices and commissions. Work your way up. Robert Moses build modern New York City as an unelected local commissioner. Texas railroad commissioners wields more power than the governor. Follow the power.

All politics is local. Dums can't win at top levels without holding the infrastructure too. Dums have lost state after state since the 2010 census and resultant gerrymandering. Dums who can't regain local power are fucked.

What about Bernie's Brigade? If they don't organize, they're irrelevant.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Gerrymandering isn't the (D)'s problem.

Living in their metro bubbles is.

They forgot we have a system that makes it hard for them to sit in their metro bubbles and shit allllll over the other 95% of the country, aka all those dumb ass rednecks who aren't sophisticated enough to live in a metro megaplex and thus know how to better manage the dumb redneck's lives better than the dumb rednecks do.

Their proud hatred of white folks aka the Nazis, didn't really help them either. They fucking hate white guys so much they scared white women into voting for Trump.

(D)'s are fucked. They sold out on HC reform and everyone knows it. Not a (D) fan on this board will even admit the democrats had ANYTHING to do with ACA without pulling their teeth. Same mother fuckers that were cheering it before it came out as the greatest thing ever. Dear Leaders landmark and revolutionary reforms!!! Desperate to disassociate themselves, Dear Leader and The Party from ACA, it's all a republican plan and they didn't fix it!!!

LMFAO

Berni bro's smell the blood in the water and they want someone else to take advantage of that, do all the work for them and share the spoils of victory with them equally.

AntiFa and BLM promise to deliver.

LOL....fuckin' suckers.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Democrats went to great lengths, and were caught going to those great lengths, to insure the election was totally rigged to be a coronation for Hillary... and NOW they get pissed at Bernie and his supporters for not simply rolling over for a belly rub?

*chuckle*

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

https://spectator.org/the-pain-of-the-contemporary-american-orthodox-jew/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/01/20/how_trump_won_--_conclusions_132846.html

http://www.thirdway.org/report/why-demography-does-not-equal-destiny

It's not gerrymandering.

As in many things, it's location, location, location...

 

[Beco]

Sanders has the best reputation of any congressperson, and anyone in the white house.

Sucks to be the establishment dems or republicans.

I can't listen to a man with Phlem in his throat, constantly

 

[Hypoxia]

The divide is Lo-Output vs Hi-Output. Hillary took less than 500 USA counties but they produce ~2/3 of the GDP. Tromp took over 2600 counties that only generate ~1/3 of GDP. (And Hillary's fewer counties gave her 3 million more votes than Tromp's blighted areas.) Put bluntly, places filled with Dums are more valuable than Gups, more productive, and they subsidize the leeches.

Hi-Output areas are growing; Lo-Output are withering. But Lo-Output folk ain't going away and ain't getting any more sociable. That's the demographic divide, those worth more vs those worth less. The moving-ons vs the left-behinds. Who do you think will dominate in ten years?

Both the Dum and Gup party establishments are fueled by corporate money. The left-behinds hoped that either Tromp or Bernie would break corporate ownership of USA politics. Ha ha, fooled ya!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Hi-Output areas are growing; Lo-Output are withering. But Lo-Output folk ain't going away and ain't getting any more sociable. That's the demographic divide, those worth more vs those worth less. The moving-ons vs the left-behinds. Who do you think will dominate in ten years?

The moving-ons don't get to do so, or even exist for that matter, without the 'left-behinds'.

They only get to move on because they can go down to any number of establishments and buy a meal.

Grown, processed, packaged, distributed and sold by 'left-behinds' the oh so arrogant lefty Democrat loves to look down their nose at as they crank their smug and arrogance all the way up to 11. Just a bunch of dumb ass rednecks, warehouse workers and truck drivers unworthy of licking the filth from the shoes of sophisticated metro progressives.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So...




The DEMOCRATS are the party of the rich?

The Republicans are the party of the people who grow your food and produce your energy?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The moving-ons don't get to do so, or even exist for that matter, without the 'left-behinds'.

They only get to move on because they can go down to any number of establishments and buy a meal.

Grown, processed, packaged, distributed and sold by 'left-behinds' the oh so arrogant lefty Democrat loves to look down their nose at as they crank their smug and arrogance all the way up to 11. Just a bunch of dumb ass rednecks, warehouse workers and truck drivers unworthy of licking the filth from the shoes of sophisticated metro progressives.

As a warehouse worker, I take great offense...

 

[richard_daily]

Hi-Output areas are growing; Lo-Output are withering. But Lo-Output folk ain't going away and ain't getting any more sociable. That's the demographic divide, those worth more vs those worth less. The moving-ons vs the left-behinds. Who do you think will dominate in ten years?

Low-Output folks are the demographic that elected Trump.

They're upset that they can't find a factory job, and never bothered to get an education to keep themselves abreast in the world. You can see it daily in the comments from the wingnuts on here.

They're unaware of the world, unaware of the consequences of their actions, and clueless about how things work.

 

[Hypoxia]

Low-Output folks are the demographic that elected Trump.

They're significant but not the only demographic. Many richer and older folks fell for his shtick. They're not left-behinds -- but they fear abandonment and impotence.

My partner's sister and her husband are exemplars. Late 60s and retired now, little college but great professional success. They're fairly nice people. They morally despise Tromp but voted for him so he'd boost their investment portfolio. Oops, their stocks ain't growing and their McMansion is losing value. But they defend Tromp. Suckers.

 

[richard_daily]

They're significant but not the only demographic. Many richer and older folks fell for his shtick. They're not left-behinds -- but they fear abandonment and impotence.

My partner's sister and her husband are exemplars. Late 60s and retired now, little college but great professional success. They're fairly nice people. They morally despise Tromp but voted for him so he'd boost their investment portfolio. Oops, their stocks ain't growing and their McMansion is losing value. But they defend Tromp. Suckers.

What you reap, you shall sow.

Vote for a liar who was born into money, but declared bankruptcy multiple times, you'll get lies and bankruptcy.

 

[BotanyBoy]

As a warehouse worker, I take great offense...

Everything is offensive.

Low-Output folks are the demographic that elected Trump.

They're upset that they can't find a factory job, and never bothered to get an education to keep themselves abreast in the world. You can see it daily in the comments from the wingnuts on here.

They're unaware of the world, unaware of the consequences of their actions, and clueless about how things work.

I suppose that's why the "high output" folks are so desperate to restrict the "low output" folks from making any money and tax the ones they do allow the privilege of making a living into oblivion for their own gain.

Typical socialist....total fucking degenerates.

 

[pointless]

Low-Output folks are the demographic that elected Trump.

They're upset that they can't find a factory job, and never bothered to get an education to keep themselves abreast in the world. You can see it daily in the comments from the wingnuts on here.

They're unaware of the world, unaware of the consequences of their actions, and clueless about how things work.

and this attitude is why the rightwing in this country keeps winning and the liberal centrists keep losing.

you fucking disgust me.

 

[Rightguide]

Sanders has the best reputation of any congressperson, and anyone in the white house.

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[4est_4est_Gump]

Funny, I live with two Trump voters and our investments and home value have grown in value...

 

[richard_daily]

I suppose that's why the "high output" folks are so desperate to restrict the "low output" folks from making any money and tax the ones they do allow the privilege of making a living into oblivion for their own gain.

The capitalists are the ones who have cost the low-output folks their jobs... It's not the fault of immigrants, or anyone else but the capitalists.

 

[richard_daily]

and this attitude is why the rightwing in this country keeps winning and the liberal centrists keep losing.

you fucking disgust me.

Low-output does not equal working class.

Low-output means braindead losers.

I could give two shits if I disgust you... you're pointless.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Gerrymandering is all about location, and it's all across the country, not just in urban areas.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2014/05/crimes-against-geography.png&w=480

https://www.fairdistrictspa.com/uploads/general/_580xAUTO_crop_center-center/Evolution-of-District-7-w-dates-300dpi-3x2in.jpg

The term came about back in 1812.

https://www.fairdistrictspa.com/uploads/general/_400xAUTO_crop_center-center/Elbridge-Gerrymander_300dpi_14x14in.jpg

 

[BotanyBoy]

The capitalists are the ones who have cost the low-output folks their jobs... It's not the fault of immigrants, or anyone else but the capitalists.

And how did people who support the voluntary exchange of goods and services on a free and/or open market manage to cost the working class their jobs?

Low-output does not equal working class.

Low-output means braindead losers.

Yes it does, you're talking about farmers, truck drivers, shit shovelers, plumbers, electricians, road workers etc. Low income working people, mostly white, TRUMP voters is who you're talking about.

You and the rest of the left are openly hostile towards these people, want them put out of business, outlaw their economic and social lifestyles under penalty of law. Not out of need but out of desire, because you want leftism instead of liberalism and capitalism.

Then the morons on the left just can't imagine why the white working class went and voted for Trump. Wait they have it all figured out, RACISM!! It's the only reason. Working class white America is nothing but NAZIS!!!......right?

LOL what a bunch of assholes.

 

[richard_daily]

And how did people who support the voluntary exchange of goods and services on a free and/or open market manage to cost the working class their jobs?

Globalization.

Yes it does, you're talking about farmers, truck drivers, shit shovelers, plumbers, electricians, road workers etc. Low income working people, mostly white, TRUMP voters is who you're talking about.

Wrong. That's not who I'm talking about. I'm talking about people like Ishmale, rightguide, and busybody... who take handouts from the government, while not producing anything except complaints. I'm working class. Union background. I have worked my entire life, since age 13.

You and the rest of the left are openly hostile towards these people, want them put out of business, outlaw their economic and social lifestyles under penalty of law. Not out of need but out of desire, because you want leftism instead of liberalism and capitalism.

Wrong again.You ascribe a lot of what you believe that I believe, but that I don't actually believe. Sounds like this is another one of those "you" problems.

Then the morons on the left just can't imagine why the white working class went and voted for Trump. Wait they have it all figured out, RACISM!! It's the only reason. Working class white America is nothing but NAZIS!!!......right?

A trifecta of wrong.

White supremacy has nothing to do with working class white america. White supremacy has to do with the masters telling other people that they shouldn't be united. Do you have masters? If you do, then you probably hear these sorts of messages. If you don't, then you are probably free from white supremaist messaging.

Do you believe that Mexicans are coming to take your job? If so, then you're the kind of person who has a master.