"Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American"

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"Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American"

It's up there, for sure...
 
Dick Cheney is an old RINO who wants to be relevant.
 
Of course Dick Chenney's a RINO. All you have to do is look at the eight years he was Vice President. Did he at anytime attempt to make Christianity the official religion of America? Did he attempt to make Israel a state? Did he eat a baby or kick a puppy just for the evulz? No? Then he's not quite Republican enough for the current batch.
 
it's beyond pathetic that this shitstain tries to justify his actions by comparing himself to someone who's universally unliked.

why not compare himself to all the honorable, non-treasonous state department workers who don't betray their coworkers and their country by acting like a selfish little douchebag?

his claims of a compelling moral reason are just naive, immature bullshit, and i hope he finds himself on the end of a rope in the very near future.
 
it's beyond pathetic that this shitstain tries to justify his actions by comparing himself to someone who's universally unliked.

why not compare himself to all the honorable, non-treasonous state department workers who don't betray their coworkers and their country by acting like a selfish little douchebag?

Because they didn't call him a traitor in the press. And this shitstain is a better man than you.
 
it's beyond pathetic that this shitstain tries to justify his actions by comparing himself to someone who's universally unliked.

why not compare himself to all the honorable, non-treasonous state department workers who don't betray their coworkers and their country by acting like a selfish little douchebag?

his claims of a compelling moral reason are just naive, immature bullshit, and i hope he finds himself on the end of a rope in the very near future.

So the mouth breather thinks that someone who exposes the truth about the bullshit our government is doing, is immature, naive and should be hung?

Also damn right he should be honored by being compared to Dick Cheney. I mean if you're going to be hated for having the balls to expose the truth, why not at least love being compared to one of the worst criminals in history who masterminded one of the greatest lies ever to invade a country.

Here's a hint, Pete. Quit trying to talk about politics and complementing girls in your creepy ass way. Step away from the computer and get an education, learn how to not act like a creep, and then come back.

Don't do it for us, do it for yourself. I'm concerned for you.
 
Snowden is a hero. Period.

Those who think he isn't should move to mother Russia or better yet North Korea where they also monitor your every move. I don't want to live in a country like that. It will take true patriots like snowden and Manning to get us back to the free country that we used to have.
 
So the mouth breather thinks that someone who exposes the truth about the bullshit our government is doing, is immature, naive and should be hung?

Also damn right he should be honored by being compared to Dick Cheney. I mean if you're going to be hated for having the balls to expose the truth, why not at least love being compared to one of the worst criminals in history who masterminded one of the greatest lies ever to invade a country.

Here's a hint, Pete. Quit trying to talk about politics and complementing girls in your creepy ass way. Step away from the computer and get an education, learn how to not act like a creep, and then come back.

Don't do it for us, do it for yourself. I'm concerned for you.

yes, it's completely naive. i've worked in goverment for years, and my father was a career government congressional employee for over 30 yrs. EVERYBODY is already aware of the high level of spying that goes on between countries, either ally or enemy. it's a given.

snowden was a low-level stooge, he wasn't in a position of authority. so for one thing, what he had access to more than likely wasn't the sort of information required to start a war, or break off diplomatic ties. but it does put state department employees in the difficult circumstance of acknowledging the unspoken truths of mutual spying between countries, and force them to take steps to make concessions in order to maintain diplomacy.

it takes no balls nor heroics at all to betray your employer the way he did any more than it would be for me to walk out of my office with a copy machine. but the difference is that he'd been vetted and confirmed through and through that he understood his role, that he understood the consequences of data compromise, either accidental or intentional, and he had to agree to accept these terms in order to pull a paycheck, which he happily did. is he giving his money back? no.
but he should be hung because that's the penalty for treason. he committed treason, knowingly, and those are the consequences. let him come back here and take the punishment for his actions like a man, THEN maybe i'll say he has balls. but he's not doing that, he's running which is what guilty men do.

comparing onesself to a criminal in order appear noble is pathetic. that's like me considering myself a great dad to my kids by comparing myself to a drunk, abusive deadbeat.

and trying to bolster your arguments by attacking my education (which you know nothing of) or my character only demonstrates that you don't have a coherent argument to make on this issue. not only that but you're being quite a hypocrite, considering how hard you work trying to ingratiate yourself to women all over the place.

i've spoken to 4 different current state department employee friends to get their views on this whole issue since it broke, and got their feedback on what the feeling is within the department. who have you spoken with? what background do you have on this?
 
yes, it's completely naive. i've worked in goverment for years, and my father was a career government congressional employee for over 30 yrs. EVERYBODY is already aware of the high level of spying that goes on between countries, either ally or enemy. it's a given.

snowden was a low-level stooge, he wasn't in a position of authority. so for one thing, what he had access to more than likely wasn't the sort of information required to start a war, or break off diplomatic ties. but it does put state department employees in the difficult circumstance of acknowledging the unspoken truths of mutual spying between countries, and force them to take steps to make concessions in order to maintain diplomacy.

it takes no balls nor heroics at all to betray your employer the way he did any more than it would be for me to walk out of my office with a copy machine. but the difference is that he'd been vetted and confirmed through and through that he understood his role, that he understood the consequences of data compromise, either accidental or intentional, and he had to agree to accept these terms in order to pull a paycheck, which he happily did. is he giving his money back? no.
but he should be hung because that's the penalty for treason. he committed treason, knowingly, and those are the consequences. let him come back here and take the punishment for his actions like a man, THEN maybe i'll say he has balls. but he's not doing that, he's running which is what guilty men do.

comparing onesself to a criminal in order appear noble is pathetic. that's like me considering myself a great dad to my kids by comparing myself to a drunk, abusive deadbeat.

and trying to bolster your arguments by attacking my education (which you know nothing of) or my character only demonstrates that you don't have a coherent argument to make on this issue. not only that but you're being quite a hypocrite, considering how hard you work trying to ingratiate yourself to women all over the place.

i've spoken to 4 different current state department employee friends to get their views on this whole issue since it broke, and got their feedback on what the feeling is within the department. who have you spoken with? what background do you have on this?

I would not call Snowden a traitor, because he did not betray his country. He did violate his contract, but it was to report extensive unconstitutional activities by the government. He is a whistle-blower. Warrantless spying on individuals is, in no way, comparable to spying on other countries.
 
i'd accept that as a legal nuance, since his employer was his country and he knowingly and willingly violated terms with his employer.
 
yes, it's completely naive. i've worked in goverment for years, and my father was a career government congressional employee for over 30 yrs. EVERYBODY is already aware of the high level of spying that goes on between countries, either ally or enemy. it's a given.

snowden was a low-level stooge, he wasn't in a position of authority. so for one thing, what he had access to more than likely wasn't the sort of information required to start a war, or break off diplomatic ties. but it does put state department employees in the difficult circumstance of acknowledging the unspoken truths of mutual spying between countries, and force them to take steps to make concessions in order to maintain diplomacy.

it takes no balls nor heroics at all to betray your employer the way he did any more than it would be for me to walk out of my office with a copy machine. but the difference is that he'd been vetted and confirmed through and through that he understood his role, that he understood the consequences of data compromise, either accidental or intentional, and he had to agree to accept these terms in order to pull a paycheck, which he happily did. is he giving his money back? no.
but he should be hung because that's the penalty for treason. he committed treason, knowingly, and those are the consequences. let him come back here and take the punishment for his actions like a man, THEN maybe i'll say he has balls. but he's not doing that, he's running which is what guilty men do.

comparing onesself to a criminal in order appear noble is pathetic. that's like me considering myself a great dad to my kids by comparing myself to a drunk, abusive deadbeat.

and trying to bolster your arguments by attacking my education (which you know nothing of) or my character only demonstrates that you don't have a coherent argument to make on this issue. not only that but you're being quite a hypocrite, considering how hard you work trying to ingratiate yourself to women all over the place.
The founders of this country were all traitors. If any one of them had been caught, they'd have been hanged. Are you saying they had "no balls"? To a government stooge such as yourself, I suppose "having balls" means to suck up to power and follow orders no matter what?

i've spoken to 4 different current state department employee friends to get their views on this whole issue since it broke, and got their feedback on what the feeling is within the department. who have you spoken with? what background do you have on this?
Yeah, right. You talked to some other government lackeys and got their opinions. So are we talking to them or you, here?
 
yes, it's completely naive. i've worked in goverment for years, and my father was a career government congressional employee for over 30 yrs. EVERYBODY is already aware of the high level of spying that goes on between countries, either ally or enemy. it's a given.

snowden was a low-level stooge, he wasn't in a position of authority. so for one thing, what he had access to more than likely wasn't the sort of information required to start a war, or break off diplomatic ties. but it does put state department employees in the difficult circumstance of acknowledging the unspoken truths of mutual spying between countries, and force them to take steps to make concessions in order to maintain diplomacy.

Good.
 
We live in a big brother state...just a few steps away from North Korea really. This is a good first step to getting out from under this tyranny and back to our constitutional roots and back to our freedom.
 
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