Because something is illegal, doesn't.....

yevkassem72

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....make it wrong. Yes, this is a deliberate parody of the Jesus Freak's sanctimonious little thread.

Anyway, let's start with marijuana. I do not see how anyone could condemn this. It is a truly wonderful plant and much better for you than booze or tobacco (though I use both of the latter, I freely admit). Thoughts? :)
 
yevkassem72 said:
....make it wrong. Yes, this is a deliberate parody of the Jesus Freak's sanctimonious little thread.

Anyway, let's start with marijuana. I do not see how anyone could condemn this. It is a truly wonderful plant and much better for you than booze or tobacco (though I use both of the latter, I freely admit). Thoughts? :)


honestly.. ive never done it.. wont do it.. but respect any one who chooses too... but honestly i dont agree with it... i also dont agree with tobacco.... alcohol on the other hand... well we cant be good ALL the time lol... honestly i just cant imagine any thing being burned going into your lungs as being all that great (i know your liver for alcohol.. but im a big guy big liver ;) ) but im also of the opinion that if its not so bad why is it still illegal where as tobacco isnt?

once again its a personal choice i dont really care if you do or dont its just not for me...
 
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trojan_man_co said:
but im also of the opinion that if its not so bad why is it still illegal where as tobacco isnt?

Sorry, but that has got to be one of the most naive things I have heard here!
 
Wearing seatbelts... if the idiots want to go without seatbelts and get killed, i say we let them.
 
Chicklet said:
Wearing seatbelts... if the idiots want to go without seatbelts and get killed, i say we let them.

What about children? Should there be seatbelt laws for minors?
 
The difference between pot and tobacco and beer is that you can drink a beer or a glass of wine and not get drunk. You can smoke a cigarette and not get high. You cannot smoke a joint and not get high.

The rule that seriously irritates the crap out of me is the new law for car seats. 8 or 80 lbs? THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS! Plus I keep seeing signs that say that if you're 4'9 or under that you should be using a booster seat. I am only 5' tall AND I WILL NOT USE A BOOSTER SEAT. Where is it going to end? Soon they won't let children in cars at all cause they might get hurt. :rolleyes:
 
wouldloveto said:
Sorry, but that has got to be one of the most naive things I have heard here!


lol must have not made my point clear.. i dont think pot should be legal i think tobacco should be illegal also... but in responce to zins post below wouldloveto... see i would not have a probelm eating a pot brownie i just dont want the smoke side of it...
 
I have partaken of Mary Jane on occasion, and its a cool feeling. As a general rule, I prefer the feeling of a few shots of Southern Comfort.

It is my opinion that the government would be better off scaling back drug and vice laws, and concentrate on important things.
 
MasterPhoenix said:
I have partaken of Mary Jane on occasion, and its a cool feeling. As a general rule, I prefer the feeling of a few shots of Southern Comfort.

It is my opinion that the government would be better off scaling back drug and vice laws, and concentrate on important things.


Haha, like hell. We can only wish.
 
lne_iii said:
Haha, like hell. We can only wish.

I lived in Nevada for a while where prostitution is legal. (Not in Clark County where I lived, but nearby.) I didn't partake, but it was good knowing that if I needed a good fuck or blowjob, I could get one with no strings or worries attached.... Especially since there is mandatory testing and condom use at the brothels.

Much safer for the girl and the client that way. Much better for her than being on the street corner and riding off with who knows...

If they legalized the drugs, then they could tax the shit out of them, and we would not have these wars on the street over the best place to sell.

Prohibition worked so well for booze.
 
I'm with you gentlemen on legalizing...or at least on scaling back the laws regulating things like drugs and prostitution. To be honest, I'm also in favor of lowering the legal drinking age. I think that part of the reason other countries have so much less of a problem with alcoholism and with college kids, in particular, getting out of control is the attitude they take towards drinking. If drinking is something you grow up doing with your family at meals and emphasis has always been placed on moderation, young people will know what they can handle and what is reasonable once they get out on their own. And if drugs were legalized, the rebellion aspect of trying them or using them would be removed. And MP's point about the increased safety of regulated, legalized prostitution would go for drugs, too.

As far as things being illegal but not wrong - hell, I'm technically a criminal in Minnesota. The sodomy laws weren't officially taken off the books there until I was in college, including oral sex. And I'd broken them before I turned 18!
 
The US needs to lighten up period. This country is so damn moralistic its pathetic.

Is it any wonder that Americans have such horrid body issues, when nudity is such a taboo...

I could go on and on in this one....
 
Don't quote me but I believe that the tar content in a marijuana cigarette is 4 times that of a tobacco cigarette. Now I've smoked both and no longer partake of either but can tell you from personal experiences that if one smokes as many marijuana cigarettes in a day as a tobacco smoker would smoke, their lungs would give out all that much more quickly.

Oh I'm all for legalizing everything for adults that is seeing it can't be controlled or eliminated. Let people make their own choices. That way the fools will eventually be eliminated and the healthy will inherit the earth. What's left of it that is.

just saying.

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trojan_man_co said:
honestly.. ive never done it.. wont do it.. but respect any one who chooses too... but honestly i dont agree with it... i also dont agree with tobacco.... alcohol on the other hand... well we cant be good ALL the time lol... honestly i just cant imagine any thing being burned going into your lungs as being all that great (i know your liver for alcohol.. but im a big guy big liver ;) ) but im also of the opinion that if its not so bad why is it still illegal where as tobacco isnt?

once again its a personal choice i dont really care if you do or dont its just not for me...
 
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I'm on the fence here. Partly I think that something as awful as drugs should be illegal, but as pointed out look how well the prohibition worked on alcohol. I dunno how I'd vote if it came up for a vote. *shrug*
 
graceanne said:
I'm on the fence here. Partly I think that something as awful as drugs should be illegal, but as pointed out look how well the prohibition worked on alcohol. I dunno how I'd vote if it came up for a vote. *shrug*

It is not the drugs that are awful... it is how they are used/abused...

Marijuana is nothing even remotely close to 'awful'.
 
wouldloveto said:
It is not the drugs that are awful... it is how they are used/abused...

Marijuana is nothing even remotely close to 'awful'.

Some drugs are awful, no matte rhow they're used. Like crank.
 
Master Gil smokes tobacco, but doesn't drink alcohol.
I drink alcohol but don't smoke (I did for a few years but quit 20 years ago).

He uses pot for medicinal purposes - pain relief, anti nausea effect, appetite stimulant, and sleep aid. I have partaken on occasion (He will give it to me via what we call a "kiss cone", where He breathes it in to my mouth and I inhale). We both get rather silly and giggly, and then I fall asleep :eek: :rolleyes:

In the past He used a lot of drugs. Not heroin, but LSD, speed, "mandies", and heaps of pot. He drank a lot of alcohol, and smoked heaps of cigarettes. I on the other hand was a complete innocent when it comes to drugs (and other things as well, but we won't go there ;) ). I had my first puff on a joint on New Years Eve 2002. I had been drinking as well and I really didn't like the out of control feeling I got so I didn't try it again until I was living with Master Gil. It's different when we do it together lol :)

Makes me wonder how something that has so many benefits is still illegal here :( He can no longer take oral pain meds because they upset His stomach and make Him feel ill. A bit of pot at night, or during the day if we are not going out, makes all the difference to His quality of life.
 
Bandit58 said:
Master Gil smokes tobacco, but doesn't drink alcohol.
I drink alcohol but don't smoke (I did for a few years but quit 20 years ago).

He uses pot for medicinal purposes - pain relief, anti nausea effect, appetite stimulant, and sleep aid. I have partaken on occasion (He will give it to me via what we call a "kiss cone", where He breathes it in to my mouth and I inhale). We both get rather silly and giggly, and then I fall asleep :eek: :rolleyes:

In the past He used a lot of drugs. Not heroin, but LSD, speed, "mandies", and heaps of pot. He drank a lot of alcohol, and smoked heaps of cigarettes. I on the other hand was a complete innocent when it comes to drugs (and other things as well, but we won't go there ;) ). I had my first puff on a joint on New Years Eve 2002. I had been drinking as well and I really didn't like the out of control feeling I got so I didn't try it again until I was living with Master Gil. It's different when we do it together lol :)

Makes me wonder how something that has so many benefits is still illegal here :( He can no longer take oral pain meds because they upset His stomach and make Him feel ill. A bit of pot at night, or during the day if we are not going out, makes all the difference to His quality of life.

In Oregon medical marijuana is legal. It's so awesome in the way it helps. I've got a friend who was able to quit taking three of her other meds when she got on the program. Plus, normally when she gets the flu she begins to have serious withdrawls to the morphine she's been on for years. Without fail she ends up hospitalized. Last time she got sick she was able to keep the morphine down, because of marijuana, and I didn't end up having to take her to the ER. :nana:
 
graceanne said:
Some drugs are awful, no matter how they're used. Like crank.

Yes, you have me on 'crank', it is in a category of drugs that has no legitimate use... therefore, you are correct.

Every other drug I can think of, or it's origin compound, has a legitimate use.
 
MasterPhoenix said:
I lived in Nevada for a while where prostitution is legal. (Not in Clark County where I lived, but nearby.) I didn't partake, but it was good knowing that if I needed a good fuck or blowjob, I could get one with no strings or worries attached.... Especially since there is mandatory testing and condom use at the brothels.

Much safer for the girl and the client that way. Much better for her than being on the street corner and riding off with who knows...

If they legalized the drugs, then they could tax the shit out of them, and we would not have these wars on the street over the best place to sell.

Prohibition worked so well for booze.

Prohibition tends to lead only to more organized crime, from what I can see. This is a nice country, but it can have some silly laws at times. Blame the politicians, I suppose.
 
MasterPhoenix said:
I lived in Nevada for a while where prostitution is legal. (Not in Clark County where I lived, but nearby.) I didn't partake, but it was good knowing that if I needed a good fuck or blowjob, I could get one with no strings or worries attached.... Especially since there is mandatory testing and condom use at the brothels.

Much safer for the girl and the client that way. Much better for her than being on the street corner and riding off with who knows...

If they legalized the drugs, then they could tax the shit out of them, and we would not have these wars on the street over the best place to sell.

Prohibition worked so well for booze.

Brothels are legal here, but there are lots of regulations on where they can be situated etc.

I worked in one for a few weeks as a receptionist. Condom use was mandatory, and the girls were drug free (if they weren't, and management found out, they got the sack). They had to produce a medical certificate once a month to prove they were disease free.

Mind you the girls certainly earned their money judging by some of the clientele who came through the doors *shudder* :eek:
 
~LSD~

wouldloveto said:
Yes, you have me on 'crank', it is in a category of drugs that has no legitimate use... therefore, you are correct.

Every other drug I can think of, or it's origin compound, has a legitimate use.
 
Blushing Bottom said:

LSD was originally researched as a psychoactive for legitimate purpose.

the fact that it was an absolute blast was just a side benefit! ;)
 
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