Beautiful and Stupid or Ugly and Smart?

cpicass0

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A friend and I were chatting today and he was telling me about this woman he dated at one point in his life who was beautiful, but dumb as a post. I told him that I couldn't possibly be with someone who couldn't carry on a coherent conversation.

Just wondering how everyone else feels.

If you had the choice between someone who was physically everything you had ever wanted, but dumb as a post or Someone who was your perfect intellectual companion but physically repellant to you. (I'm talking long term relationship!) Which would you choose?

(Crosses her fingers, hoping for an interesting thread :)
 
I would hang out at the coffee shop kvetching the day away with the ugly one and then go home and have sex with the attractive one.
 
Hooper_X said:
I would hang out at the coffee shop kvetching the day away with the ugly one and then go home and have sex with the attractive one.

Read your profile, LOL ;)
 
I think the myth of the stupid but beautiful bimbo is really a case of a different kind of intelligence not being appreciated. If a lovely woman can bat her eye lashes or speak in a certain tone of voice and cause accomplished men, who are 800 lb. gorillas in their respective fields, to fall over themselves trying to impress her and convince her to take half of everything they've managed to amass, who is really the stupid one?

IMO, very beautiful, possibly extra X chromosome having, women are the human equivalent of the Face-Dancer Lords in Frank Herbert's Dune.
 
Hooper_X said:
I think the myth of the stupid but beautiful bimbo is really a case of a different kind of intelligence not being appreciated. If a lovely woman can bat her eye lashes or speak in a certain tone of voice and cause accomplished men, who are 800 lb. gorillas in their respective fields, to fall over themselves trying to impress her and convince her to take half of everything they've managed to amass, who is really the stupid one?

That was nicely said. :rose:
 
In this hypothetical situation, the beautiful woman is dumb as a rock, completely stupid, never going to be anything other.
 
cpicass0 said:
In this hypothetical situation, the beautiful woman is dumb as a rock, completely stupid, never going to be anything other.
Shit! Ok now ya said the other was was "physically repulsive" to me? Not like just plain or homely but "repulsive"?
 
cpicass0 said:
In this hypothetical situation, the beautiful woman is dumb as a rock, completely stupid, never going to be anything other.

Oh, so she's a future Mrs. Trump.
 
In reality, a woman that I found physically that unattractive would be someone that I could embrace mind to mind, but not body to body.
A woman that looked liked a goddess but had the mind of a slow child? That would be too sad to spark any desire in me.

Extremes don’t work, for any of us.
 
SophiaY said:
In reality, a woman that I found physically that unattractive would be someone that I could embrace mind to mind, but not body to body.
A woman that looked liked a goddess but had the mind of a slow child? That would be too sad to spark any desire in me.

Fair enough. Maybe my original quesion was too extreme.

Let's say the smart woman was just not someone you could see yourself with. Not Elephant woman or anything.
The unintelligent woman is not mentally impaired in any way, is just not that sharp. She just doesn't get you, or anything you are interested in.

Better? :)
 
cpicass0 said:
Fair enough. Maybe my original quesion was too extreme.

Let's say the smart woman was just not someone you could see yourself with. Not Elephant woman or anything.
The unintelligent woman is not mentally impaired in any way, is just not that sharp. She just doesn't get you, or anything you are interested in.

Better? :)
Still a lose/lose situation. Couldn't be happy with either one.
 
Ricwilly said:
Still a lose/lose situation. Couldn't be happy with either one.

This wouldn't be a problem for me. I don't need one person to be all things to me. If I was going to a play, gallery, museum, poetry and/or book reading, art house movie, jazz concert or the like, I would want the brilliant one to accompany me. If I was going to something like a work related social event, where I wanted to garner the respect and grudging admiration of my bosses and colleagues, I'd take the goddess.
 
Hooper_X said:
This wouldn't be a problem for me. I don't need one person to be all things to me. If I was going to a play, gallery, museum, poetry and/or book reading, art house movie, jazz concert or the like, I would want the brilliant one to accompany me. If I was going to something like a work related social event, where I wanted to garner the respect and grudging admiration of my bosses and colleagues, I'd take the goddess.
Well yeah, the question was to choose one tho.
If it was between"not someone you could see yourself with" or "She just doesn't get you, or anything you are interested in" I'd have to keep looking.
 
Where men are concerned, being able to carry on an intelligent convo is so much more important than what he looks like.


taltos
 
I think, in this dilemma I would get to work and hypnotise myself into a new standard of beauty.
I've dated beautiful-but-dumb, both men and women, and a dumb person just cannot make me happy in bed more than once or twice by accident.
Whereas, an unattractive person can show beauty suddenly, when shaken by passion. All eyes are beautiful when they front an intelligent and loving mind.
 
Stella_Omega said:
I think, in this dilemma I would get to work and hypnotise myself into a new standard of beauty.
I've dated beautiful-but-dumb, both men and women, and a dumb person just cannot make me happy in bed more than once or twice by accident.
Whereas, an unattractive person can show beauty suddenly, when shaken by passion. All eyes are beautiful when they front an intelligent and loving mind.


So very true. I have fallen in love, and lust, seeing the beauty in eyes...
 
Ricwilly said:
Well yeah, the question was to choose one tho.
If it was between"not someone you could see yourself with" or "She just doesn't get you, or anything you are interested in" I'd have to keep looking.

I understand the scenario, I just wouldn't be inclined to go along with it. With a gun to my head, I'd take the goddess. You can always find intellectual stimulation elsewhere. However, if you have a brilliant wildebeest for a girlfriend not only are you not going to be able to get away with having sex with another more attractive woman, but she'll probably be perceptive enough to glean that you find her sexually repellent.
 
By the way, Hooper- thank you SO much for the glorious Booty parade!
Who was it, James Brown? who said;

I like my girls like Champagne glasses
With long thin legs and big fat asses..
 
oh, and to respond to your post- that is probably true for most men, as my post is possibly true for most women... Interesting, isn't it?
Since my partnership with a man is *sort of* passive, all I would need as a physical aide is lots of lube... and if my partner were a woman, I don't have to worry about the honesty of a limp dick the way real men do! :D
 
Stella_Omega said:
By the way, Hooper- thank you SO much for the glorious Booty parade!
Who was it, James Brown? who said;

I like my girls like Champagne glasses
With long thin legs and big fat asses..

I've never heard that before. The thin legs part makes me a little dubious, but who knows? I do know that the big booty thing goes back a lot further than James. My grandfather was very fond of a much older song called "Jelly, Jelly" which warned of the pitfalls of big wiggly jiggly booty obsession. And, the blues is full of admonitions about "big legged women" (famously aped by Jimmy Page). I'm sure even those weren't the first instances of a black man waxing on poetically about a big butt. That (little waist, big hips, big round butt, big lush thighs) is to us what skinny girl with blonde hair and big gravity defying knockers is to a white dude, or so I've long suspected anyway. So, you could say that I'm culturally predisposed... Nay, it is my dharma, my sacred hereditary duty to worship that booty.
 
Hooper_X said:
I've never heard that before. The thin legs part makes me a little dubious, but who knows? I do know that the big booty thing goes back a lot further than James. My grandfather was very fond of a much older song called "Jelly, Jelly" which warned of the pitfalls of big wiggly jiggly booty obsession. And, the blues is full of admonitions about "big legged women" (famously aped by Jimmy Page). I'm sure even those weren't the first instances of a black man waxing on poetically about a big butt. That (little waist, big hips, big round butt, big lush thighs) is to us what skinny girl with blonde hair and big gravity defying knockers is to a white dude, or so I've long suspected anyway. So, you could say that I'm culturally predisposed... Nay, it is my dharma, my sacred hereditary duty to worship that booty.
Har! As a white woman married to a white guy, I can always tell when I'm getting fatter than he would like- it's when the black guys start telling me about how good my booty looks... "girl, you got four pound of pure butter in there!" Unlike so many women, I think that's kind of charming.

To buy jeans that fit, I have to look for the cheap Brazilian imports. They like booty too, and cut their jeans to flatter.
 
Brazilians do love ample bottoms -- it's almost a universal attitude, it crosses over from straight to gay.


Speaking from....uh, personal experience.
 
Stella_Omega said:
To buy jeans that fit, I have to look for the cheap Brazilian imports. They like booty too, and cut their jeans to flatter.

There is a reason they like and have booty so much. Despite what you're likely to see in the pages of magazines featuring Brazilian models chosen for their likelihood to appeal to an American "mainstream" audience, Brazil has more people who would be categorized as black in America than the united states does. And culturally Brazil is very heavily Africanized.

Incidentally, the main slang term for a pretty girl in Brazil is Popozuda. Literally translated it means big butt girl.
 
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