Beat Up? Too Bad.

[R. Richard]

Actually, the real reason is that the scumbags and the DA are too busy pimping for they mama to worry about citizens (JMNTHO.) Some six foot tall 200 pound man beats up a five foot tall 100 pound woman? Too bad. (Those if you who believe that the scumbags are here to protect you, think again.)

Suspected domestic abusers go free as Topeka city, county officials bicker over funds

A bitter argument over money in Topeka, Kan., means that city and county authorities have neglected to prosecute or charge people suspected of domestic battery since Sept. 8.

In other words, the local justice system has spent a month effectively sending the message that misdemeanor domestic assault will go unpunished--at least for now.

The dispute started last month, when Shawnee County District Attorney Chad Taylor announced that a 10 percent budget cut to his office in 2012 meant he would no longer be prosecuting any of the city's misdemeanors, effective immediately. Topeka city council members say they can't afford the estimated $800,000 yearly cost of prosecuting those misdemeanors and jailing offenders--and that they want the county to continue carrying out misdemeanor prosecutions as it has for the past 25 years. The county continues to insist that the jurisdiction for these prosecutions should shift to city prosecutors, but the Topeka City Council says that none of the city's five attorneys has any recent experience prosecuting domestic violence cases.

Next week, the council will vote on a measure that will strip domestic battery from a list of crimes that are illegal in the city. The vote is a tactical bid to force the county to take those cases on again.

 

[Handley_Page]

Let's hope the victims send the Hospital Bill to the Authorities for payment, then.

 

[Stella_Omega]

pour another cuppa tea.

 

[lovecraft68]

One of the most satisfying things that I do in my life is teach self defense classes at the woman's shelter that my wife also volunteers at as a councilor.

Many of these women, and I use that as a general term some are in their teens have been the victim of abuse. Several had restraining orders that just keep getting broken and somehow nothing seems to happen.

I've been doing this for two years but there didn't seem to be many women interested. A few months ago however, there was a terrible story out of Cumberland Rhode Island where an estranged husband broke into his wifes house hand cuffed her, dragged her out into her yard and beat her to death., before shooting himself.

That spurred quite a few women to take this a bit more seriously. The cops can do very little when the fucker is in your face.

Two months ago one of the women, who had moved on and started her new life received a visit from MR. Wonderful. He tried to start with her and she, as I taught her, cowered as if she were going to let him, then got his wrist, put his arm behind his back and broke it. Then kneeled on his back until the cops got there.

It was beyond satisfying. Who knows how bad he would have hurt her. Apparently this is the only way to go as ,as usual the system is next to useless.

I also have a fifteen year old girl who is in my care as a foster child( we started the adoption process but goddamn is it a lot). She was beaten raped and spent six months being fed drugs and used as a prostitute in a sex trafficking ring (so by the way any of you who write stories using that as a plot bunny and think its arousing? come look me up next time you're in the RI area, I have something special for you)

Anyway damn straight after living with me for six months she knows how to defend herself as do both my daughters who have received black belts in Kenpo.

Ladies this is the only way, you are far from the weaker sex even physically, learn to fight. With 'help' like the law provides you need to.

 

[BONNIEBREA]

Let me see if I can refresh anyone's memory.

"We need to cut that darned budget!"

"There's just too darned much government spending."

"Government is an evil beast that must be starved to death."

"We need small government."

The facts of this incident are shocking, and more shocking is the fact that the city can't prosecute because a government office's budget has been cut too much.

Maybe you are as shocked as me. But if you want to know who's responsible, then first try to remember if you've ever walked into a voting booth and voted for any republicans. If you have then go look in the mirror and you'll find the responsible party.

Oh yeah. And what's this crap doing on the AH board? It belongs on the GB.

 

[lovecraft68]

Let me see if I can refresh anyone's memory.

"We need to cut that darned budget!"

"There's just too darned much government spending."

"Government is an evil beast that must be starved to death."

"We need small government."

The facts of this incident are shocking, and more shocking is the fact that the city can't prosecute because a government office's budget has been cut too much.

Maybe you are as shocked as me. But if you want to know who's responsible, then first try to remember if you've ever walked into a voting booth and voted for any republicans. If you have then go look in the mirror and you'll find the responsible party.

Oh yeah. And what's this crap doing on the AH board? It belongs on the GB.

But no worries! In Rhode Island Governor Chaffee is trying to pass a law that grants full scholrships to illegal immigrants., and somehow anyone opposed must be racist.

Sorry, you're right this is GB material. The reason it ends up here, is that for the most part people don't attack each other like they do over there.

If this were on the GB it would have turned into only the black people get to beat up the women and somehow the word Fag would get mentioned.

 

[TE999]

Just remember, ladies ... A gun in the hand beats a cop on the phone.

 

[D_Lynn]

Actually, the real reason is that the scumbags and the DA are too busy pimping for they mama to worry about citizens (JMNTHO.) Some six foot tall 200 pound man beats up a five foot tall 100 pound woman? Too bad. (Those if you who believe that the scumbags are here to protect you, think again.)

Suspected domestic abusers go free as Topeka city, county officials bicker over funds

A bitter argument over money in Topeka, Kan., means that city and county authorities have neglected to prosecute or charge people suspected of domestic battery since Sept. 8.

In other words, the local justice system has spent a month effectively sending the message that misdemeanor domestic assault will go unpunished--at least for now.

Next week, the council will vote on a measure that will strip domestic battery from a list of crimes that are illegal in the city. The vote is a tactical bid to force the county to take those cases on again.

Living so close to this fucked-up city, I can honestly say that I wish this were the biggest problem there. The crime rate is atrocious, the living conditions despicable, but the thing I hate most about the town is Fred Phelps and his organization of ass clowns who parade around town and travel to funerals of soldiers to terrorize the families with their filthy signs. They live in a compound just blocks from the square. High walls with heavy surveillance protect them from retaliation, along with the fact that the Phelps family is mostly made up of lawyers, who don't hesitate to sue anyone who tries to call them out for what they are.

Here's an example of their work:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRBMKJuIdo-eEKazLjfdklwhAriwNKxHHhi3w1xbTGNysxs6EkL

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpzM-9ht5Hqz3RojRIJg-41IpAgUZR1mnVl_nTzRSJF18Py_6gDg

And perhaps the most despicable thing they do is make their children participate, and brainwash them early, so they'll continue the legacy of hate.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZ5imTQ0HmHtwuqY_rTWr22j1FJvyrgDvzlZJyk5n5KcogQvC9tQ

So, this most recent thing to hit the news, to me, just fits the direction that whole capitol is heading.

One of the most satisfying things that I do in my life is teach self defense classes at the woman's shelter that my wife also volunteers at as a councilor...

This is one of the things I love most about you and your lovely wife, LC.

Just remember, ladies ... A gun in the hand beats a cop on the phone.

Which is why I have my CCW.

Sorry for venting...this obviously struck a nerve.

DL

 

[LettersFromTatyana]

One of the most satisfying things that I do in my life is teach self defense classes at the woman's shelter that my wife also volunteers at as a councilor.

It was beyond satisfying. Who knows how bad he would have hurt her. Apparently this is the only way to go as ,as usual the system is next to useless.

I'm sorry, but what? "The system" isn't perfect, but rape (including marital rape) and domestic violence are crimes in this country. They weren't in the recent past (marital rape was still legal in North Carolina in the 1980s, for example), and all you have to do is open the newspaper to see that not only are these things perfectly legal in many countries around the world, but in many places the victims are punished for the crimes of the perpetrator.

The fact that so many of the posters on this thread are men means that "the system" has worked and is working, since it is now part of our culture that violence against women is not acceptable. And that means something. Also, don't confuse "the system" with the funding for the system.

There are absolutely problems with the court system, with the government's classification system of rape, with funding for everything from shelters to prosecution... but frankly, my opinion is that every time you demean "the system" by making sweeping generalizations like "as usual the system is next to useless" (as opposed to making a more thoughtful contribution about how "the system" could be improved), you make another victim think it's not worth going to the police. And that's just wrong.

But no worries! In Rhode Island Governor Chaffee is trying to pass a law that grants full scholrships to illegal immigrants., and somehow anyone opposed must be racist.

And this has what to do with the thread?

And perhaps the most despicable thing they do is make their children participate, and brainwash them early, so they'll continue the legacy of hate.

Agreed. They damn their children to a life of hate. What kind of parent does that?

Edited to add:

Maybe you are as shocked as me. But if you want to know who's responsible, then first try to remember if you've ever walked into a voting booth and voted for any republicans. If you have then go look in the mirror and you'll find the responsible party.

Oh yeah. And what's this crap doing on the AH board? It belongs on the GB.

QFT. Both parts, though I think I'd replace the "ever" voted for a Republican with "recently". I don't remember the northeastern Republicans of my youth being anywhere near as bat-shit crazy as they are now.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Well, there is a difference between being budget-conscious and cutting essential services. The notion that all Republicans want to cut law-enforcement budgets to this point is a bit unfair. That being said, politicians of any party who voted to do this kind of thing deserve to lose their jobs.

You can be fiscally responsible without being socially irresponsible. I am as pro-growth and as anti-deficit as possible, but one does need some government services. Cut somewhere else.....who knows, maybe politicians' salaries and pensions.

So, no, not all of us Republicans favor these kind of absurd cuts. I'd say that it was excessive zeal aligned with a design to curry popular favor, though that may be lost when enough battered women and their families get around to voting. I'd ask those guys to resign and stop embarrassing the party.

Whatever happened to common sense?

 

[Cruel2BKind]

I don't know a ton about politics, so feel free to ignore me on this one.

But bashing the system gets us nowhere. First off, barring a few european countries, and maybe Japan, we have a pretty good system. Look at the 'bride burning' cultural problem in india.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/3071963.stm

I understand that the problems of our system need to be fixed, but I don't nessesarily think that the problems are caused by republicans. I think that our problems stem from polarization of republican's and democrats, and them trying to get along. It's not common anymore for someone to believe both sides. And with a congress that is mostly republican, and a president that is a democrat, fewer things get done.

We spend too much of our money on two things in my opinion. War and prisons. America is the only country where you can get up to ten years of prison time for possession of drugs! Every other developed country uses methods like community service. Our prisons are overcrowded, and we now assume that MEN ARE RAPED MORE OFTEN THEN WOMEN because of the conditions and underfunding and overcrowding in prisons.

Sorry if this wandered off topic.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I don't know a ton about politics, so feel free to ignore me on this one.

But bashing the system gets us nowhere. First off, barring a few european countries, and maybe Japan, we have a pretty good system. Look at the 'bride burning' cultural problem in india.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/3071963.stm

I understand that the problems of our system need to be fixed, but I don't nessesarily think that the problems are caused by republicans. I think that our problems stem from polarization of republican's and democrats, and them trying to get along. It's not common anymore for someone to believe both sides. And with a congress that is mostly republican, and a president that is a democrat, fewer things get done.

We spend too much of our money on two things in my opinion. War and prisons. America is the only country where you can get up to ten years of prison time for possession of drugs! Every other developed country uses methods like community service. Our prisons are overcrowded, and we now assume that MEN ARE RAPED MORE OFTEN THEN WOMEN because of the conditions and underfunding and overcrowding in prisons.

Sorry if this wandered off topic.

This might come as a shock to you, but I agree about prisons and wars. I think that we need to bring the troops home and legalize pot, which makes more of a Ron Paul Republican. That doesn't appeal so much to the Mitt Romneys and Rick Santorums and Michelle Bachmanns of the party.

 

[R. Richard]

Let me see if I can refresh anyone's memory.

"We need to cut that darned budget!"

"There's just too darned much government spending."

"Government is an evil beast that must be starved to death."

"We need small government."

The facts of this incident are shocking, and more shocking is the fact that the city can't prosecute because a government office's budget has been cut too much.

Maybe you are as shocked as me. But if you want to know who's responsible, then first try to remember if you've ever walked into a voting booth and voted for any republicans. If you have then go look in the mirror and you'll find the responsible party.

Oh yeah. And what's this crap doing on the AH board? It belongs on the GB.

What my post is doing in the AH board is that any number of the AH board denizens have supported the idea that, 'the system' will take care of you.' It won't, which is your problem and it also won't take care of your kids, which is a problem that they should never have to face.

Ah yes, 'spend more money' is the solution to all government problems. In the area where I live, we have scumbags whose entire job is 'outreach' to the Muslim or GBLT community. I was threatened, in writing, with homosexual rape. I reported it to the scumbags, who thought it was funny. When the person who threatened me was killed in an auto accident, several states away, the scumbags showed up, in the middle of the night to question me.

A city government is almost never Democrat or Republican, you don't usually get to party membership until you get to the county or state level.

The city doesn't have enough budget and they don't have prosecuters trained to deal with domestic violence cases. Strange, when I went to school, 'all knowledge' was our specialty.

Most domestic violence is a matter of a larger, stronger man beating up on a smaller, weaker wife and/or his kids. If you will talk to the scumbags and court system people in your area, you will find that they mostly, 'just can't cope.' The attitude is, of course, sexist. I personally counselled an ex-husband who attacked a lady friend of mine. Since that time, the punk has never threatened anyone, nor done physical violence on them. The situation is likely to continue, if and when he gets out of the hospital. I have no expensive, formal training in domestic counselling.

In the area where I live, we spend an enormous amount of money providing free room, board and medical to convicted criminals. I politely pointed out, the the City Council, that the real solution to non-violent crimes was continuation school, where the criminals would be required to show up, each school day, with their homework done, and pass their classes or be declared outlaws. The costs for continuation school would have been a tiny fraction of what jail costs. However, the City Council refused to even discuss the matter, since what they were inflicting on their own children was too cruel for adults. trust me, the enforced study of Algebra and Trigonometry with Analytic Geometry would greatly reduce the crime rate. (An outlaw is a non-person, that is a person with no legal rights. Outlaw is the basis of the old time 'wanted dead or alive' posters.)

I'm a conservative. I favor the spending of money on things like libraries, meals for the elderly poor and learning. I don't favor the spending of money on scumbags, criminals or education. (I never once passed an assignment in high school English. I have 32 novels and 18 short stories, published for pay. How many do you educated ones have?)

 

[LettersFromTatyana]

C2BK, you might find this interesting:

The definition of rape used by the F.B.I. — “the carnal knowledge of a female, forcibly and against her will” — was written more than 80 years ago.

...

But that definition, critics say, does not take into account sexual-assault cases that involve anal or oral penetration or penetration with an object, cases where the victims were drugged or under the influence of alcohol or cases with male victims.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/29/us/federal-rules-on-rape-statistics-criticized.html

This is one area where "the system" has an epic fail.