BDSM Paladin

[StormNinjaBlade]

BDSM Paladin
Hey I play a 18th level half-elven Paladin of Pelor called Illirion in my friends 3.5 D&D campaign and I have recently discovered a point of contention that we both refuse to budge over and was looking for help.

When I reached fourth level as a paladin I sunk my first bonus statistic point into Charisma, raising it to 19 because upon reaching 6th level I intended on getting the Leadership feat from the DMG to attract followers and cohorts to my banner. So at 8th level we were in the Underdark and I managed to parley with a Drow warrior woman and convert her through excellent roleplaying and a natural double 20 on my Diplomacy roll to improve her base reactions from unfriendly to a friendly state. Anyway, I took her as a loyal Cohort and eventually began a 'relationship' with her. I treated her as well, if not better than my special mount and eventually we got married, with my Drow bride eventually qualifying to become a fellow paladin of Pelor in my holy order.

Now I am a Paladin of Pelor the Nuetral Good god of humans and goodness in the realm. On the wedding night I made an off hand comment about engaging in some mutual whipping and then laying on hands with a sensual massage to heal the damage. Suddenly Dave the DM was like: you can't do that, that violates your oath as a paladin and as soon as you strike your bride with the whip, you loose all your paladin abilities and so can't lay on hands.

I'm all like: that sucks dude, what a paladin does in his own bedchambers with his adventurous and consenting S/O is none of his God's business and he should just stay out of it.

But then he's all like: Your a paladin, you can't take up arms against the innocent/good without violating the alignment restriction of being all Lawful Good (LG).

So I say: Its consentual and mutual dude, so just back off.

And he's all like: Dude, I've seen the Book of Vile Darkness and it describes sado/masochism as an evil perversion.

And I go: Listen dude, nobodies getting hurt, she's into it, I'm into it. If we were just whipping ourselves, Pelor would be all 'Great going my holy flagellants, have more divine power.' according to the Book of Exalted Good. But just because its two consenting adults, who both love and respect each other and our mutual God, Pelor's got his holy panties in a bunch.

So he says: You just can't do it dude, its in the rules. It says you can't.

And I say: Well the rules suck and if me and Viconia can't express our love by whipping each other in the marital chambers, then maybe Pelor isn't the god for us.

And he says: Great, you've just forsaken the holy trust of Pelor, and he's revoked all your Paladin abilities until you cast attonement and go on a special quest.

And I say: Pelor can bite me. And so can you Dave. And I took Illirion and Viconia's charactersheet and left Dave and the others to bathe in self righteousness and ignorance.

Anyway, If anybody has room for an openminded 18th level Paladin with +3 Holy Avenger and a dark elf cohort I'd be so totally down with playing so contact me through my account.

Otherwise I was just wondering what all you guys thought of about Paladins and, you know, sex stuff.

 

[dennymere]

Depends

Obviously it's up the to GM.

In my opinion it would be fine as long as she's not "really" getting hurt. I mean your god would know whats in your heart when your doing it.

In my world we've had married paladins gay/lesbian paladins etc....it's about the god and the world.

DM

 

[landiek]

This is an awesome subject

I have a drow chara that is wedded to a Male Tigerian and believe me when we RP sex scenes it is all HE can do to keep from tearing her apart as she tends to open the beast up from his normally calm moods.

The thing that your DM has to keep in mind is that a Drow Warrioress is naturally aggressive and dominate.

Your Paladin is not violating his oath by getting wild in the bed. It would be natural for him to use all methods possible to keep his status in her eyes.

Sexual aggression is not an evil act and your DM is confusing your BDSM modes as evil .. that is not his call it would be the person playing the Drow's call unless the Drow is the DM's npc.. which would make your DM look like he was playing a GOD chara by setting all rules on his morals and perception of the rules.

I have played my Drow, Ivory for ten years now and she has been thru a lot of adventures including those with her First Mate's family.


Another thing to remember about Drow females is that in their eyes males are nothing more then slaves.. They are not usually faithful to their life partner and "WILL" kill off their sexual partner should he ever demonstrate the loss of sexual prowess.

When all else fails contact someone that knows D&D inside and out or has helped the originator of the concept for advice... Since I have a roommate that has been a DM for over thirty years and has talked with Gary Gygax about the gaming, I feel I can trust his advice.

Good luck. Landi (aka) ivory_the_darkelf on yahoo

 

[PorkchopExpress]

Wow! I just signed up, and I can see I am in the right place alright!

I have a few questions of my own to ask, but I have to say that I look forward to having some really interesting discussions with you folks!

On to your Question, couldnt your guy be a member of the Order of Opus Dei? I know for a fact those guys are allowed to marry , and it is their sacred duty to inflict pain on themself.

 

[StormNinjaBlade]

Oh man, thanks all for the great replies. Sorry I haven't been back sooner but I haven't felt up to typing for awhile.
Landiek -> Tigerians sounds kind of cool, what supplement are they in and do they have some kind of level adjustment thing going on?
Anyway, I turned up last week to Dave's place for his weekly game and he was all "What are you doing here?" and I said "I'm here to play, dude, just like every week." and he says "so your finally admitting you were wrong." and I just smiled and pulled the printoffs from this site out of my game bag and handed them over, with a little "In your face Dave!" and he gave them this real quick glance and said.
"Your not playing tonight." and gave me back the sheets. I was all, "Nah man, I got to play tonight: I haven't played for like a month" and he was all "Maybe we'll see you in another month." I was really pissed, and then Dave's girlfried, Layla said "maybe you should go, Illirion." and I was all like "Maybe you should make me!" and then she kind of caught me flatfooted and grappled me out the door. Layla thinks shes so tough cause she plays a stupid dwarf barbarian princess, but I think she might have sprained my wrist cause it kind of still hurts.
Anyway I don't think Dave is going to be mature about this thing so if anyone is out there and wants an elven Paladin to join their party, I am so down for some play. You can contact me through my account email.