Banned on Literotica

[Shale]

Banned on Literotica

One of my co-workers, also a connoisseur of Literotica was surprised when I told her that I had a piece submitted that was banned by the editors. She couldn't believe, with all the variety of fringe sexuality written on Literotica that I could be banned. Amongst the stories of fucking mom, fucking dad, or raping sis that regularly appear there she couldn't imagine what I could write that would not be published.

It wasn't even a piece of my usual scentillating porn, but was in fact an essay. I dared to question the age of consent laws as being unrealistic and arbitrary. I proposed that the age of consent at 18 was set too high, and that over half the United States and most other countries agreed with me.

I realize the rule that all portrayals on Literotica, for legal reasons must indicate participants over the age of 18. In the essay I did express a desire for an under 18 person, but did not write about such a desire being fulfilled. I factually reported that my mother had sex at 14 and my grandmother at 16, not an unusual occurrence in the real world of the 1920s and '40s (or even today).

Ironically, the same story that was banned on Literotica was published in a free weekly here in South Florida, available in boxes all over the city to anyone under 18. It was deemed safe and appropriate by the editors and authorities here, but Miami may have lower standards of propriety than Literotica.

What do you guys think of this? Give me an e-mail address and I'll send you the contraband essay.

Shale

 

[morninggirl5]

Your "essay" was refused because it violated the rules of submission here. Sex with underaged persons, no matter how it is presented is not allowed.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

I'm thinking a site like this probably wants to avoid a semi-legitimate lawsuit, especially since the site would likely be shut down pending the results of any legal action. All it would take is a single DA somewhere in America to read the words 'sex' and '14 year olds' in a positive essay, and next thing you know we're all getting visits from the FBI.

 

[peachykeen]

Hey, Laurel and Manu are under no obligation to risk getting their site shut down just so your ego can be gratified by seeing your piece here. If the editors at your local freebie want to print it, that's their choice. Apples and oranges.

 

[AnelizeDarkEyes]

i find it very interesting that you would submit the essay KNOWING the rules of submission. what is the point? so you can come out here and whine about how your rights are being stomped on? this site does not exist to provide a forum for your first amendment rights. it has rules. follow them, or find another venue. its really rather simple. <blinking>

 

[rosco rathbone]

Anyone interested in this issue should read this:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...f=sr_1_1/102-4189003-3395331?v=glance&s=books

which makes it extremely clear how seriously this shit is taken by law enforcement and prosecutors.

 

[Shale]

i find it very interesting that you would submit the essay KNOWING the rules of submission. <blinking>

I'm sorry, I must have misinterpreted the rules. I thought it meant I could not write erotic depictions of sex with people under 18. I did not think it applied to ESSAYS, that analyse the arbitrary laws that cause the necessity of such rules.

 

[Kuntmode]

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Time and time again I seem to come across more interesting posts that make me think that there seems to be a hell of a lot of hypocrisy going on around here.
How so many seem to come to the aid of Laurel and Manu, yet right in front of their fucking eyes on a daily basis are posts that really contradict a lot of the rules set in place.

Based on what you have proposed here Shale, I find it bewildering that the rules state you cannot post stories that involve those under the age of 18, yet for some reason, when one goes to register here, this is right in front of our eyes:

"A parent or guardian must mail or fax a signed permission form to the administrator of Literotica Discussion Board before a user under the age of 13 can complete the registration. How the fuck would anyone know if indeed a 13 year old was going to register anyway? Do they type different? Maybe the username BiG StUdLeY gUy is a dead give away?"



That suggests that those between the ages of 13 and 18 can register without a hitch, and if they like, they can PM and write erotic stories to women that have AV's of themselves pissing out of their cunt, squatting like a dog ready to drop a shit, provactive poses with a cock in their hand, among many other pornographic images around the place.

I guess there is nothing wrong with middle aged women flirting with guys on here they assume are over 18, yet more than likely are 15.

What makes matters worse, is below that registration guideline, I viewed a woman trying to stuff her whole hand up her cunt on a banner at the bottom of the page.

The exchange of words between adults and minors is allowed here at Literotica, but posting stories about real life events in a mature and sensible manner for discussion is not.

Someone has their fucking morals out of wak considerably.

However, you can't police everything or stop the try-hards from entering. I just hope some of the mother's on here don't come home one day and find their 12 year old daughter with a 13 year old boy on the couch, and what they are doing isn't exactly exploring each others bodies. More to the point they are acting out what they have learnt by viewing what mummy does everyday.

Whips, chains, anal, candles, domination, group sex and many other things most parents would die of heart failure if their young growing innocent children were exposed too.

How does Lit know whether or not the signed form wasn't forged?

It's all about not being liable for prosecution.

 

[MissTaken]

I believe that the "under 13" statement is a standard part of the V bulletin format.

No one under 18 is allowed to post or submit stories. Regardless of what you see when you enter the site, the home page clearly states this.

Of course, it can be difficult to weed out who is or isn't under 18 as there is no mechanism by which any of us can or must prove our age.

As to the original question: the pat answer is that the rules are clearly stated and the poster should not be surprised that his story was rejected.

On a more personal note, I am not a fan or supporter of teen porn or anything having to do with underage sexuality. So, I like the rules, here.

 

[Guest]

Who want's to fuck my 16 year old virgin sister?

Bid starts at $50!

 

[KillerMuffin]

Don't worry too much, kmode. COPA to the rescue! It passed the first Supreme Court test last June-ish and has been returned to the appellate courts.

It won't be much longer before all commerical pornography will have to go behind a credit card system in order for users to access it.

No more minors at Lit.

Anyway, is Lit responsible for being a parent to these children who access the site? Is the government responsible for being a parent to these children who access the site? Who is responsible for making sure minors don't access porno?

According to you, the webmasters are. This is a privately owned site and they can put up whatever content they like and reject whatever content they like.

Lit is a story archive, not a discussion list. It's privately owned, not publicly held. It does not state that Shale cannot write or publish whatever he likes. It does state that they will not publish whatever they find objectionable.

Whatever morality is involved is immaterial. It's a privately held site. If Shale doesn't like it, he can publish himself elsewhere, which he's already done.

Hypocrisy, by the way, is the most fundamentally ridiculous argument in existence. Everyone's a hypocrite. Duh.

 

[Guest]

How difficult for a minor to get his or her parent's credit card number? The Lit is a free site, so as long as the card's been charged, nothing has changed.

Copa is a moron.

 

[Kuntmode]

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I understand what you are elaborating on Killer Muffin, but surely if this privately owned site wanted to be seen as not advocating various things to do with minors, they wouldn't give minors the opportunity to register in the first place.

For what possible reason would the owners of this site have in allowing children under the age of 13 to register if indeed they mailed or faxed the form presented with a signature from their parents? I did mention the bit about forging a signature.

Are they drumming up future members by targeting them at a young age? Are they wanting to sign up people now, thinking that by the time they are of legal age, they will at least have a chance to post here.

Are we to assume that this site is going to expand to 15,000,000 million users in 5 years time, so it is book a spot now or miss out?



Yes the onus is on the parent. They are responsible for what their kids do when using the net, but I am sure many parents would not be too happy if they were to come across Literotica and see that Literotica is providing the opportunity for children under the age of 13 to get their parents permission to register.

 

[Guest]

Any parent with an ounce of sense would have put that Internet Nanny thingy.

If you are parent and allowing your kids to access free porn sites, you are fucking moron.

 

[LisaFunOne1]

so. even if Lit becomes one of those sites that charges a dollar (supposedly) for "age verification"..... some of us are over eighteen and dont have credit cards... shocking? shouldnt be. next option is to use SSNs for age verification... a huge ordeal in and of itself. plus, i dont know about you, but i would never give over my ssn for an erotic stories site... no matter what you do there will always be kids accessing adult sites... the question is, where would they get the idea in the first place? other kids, would be my guess... besides.... most kids arent going to look at the visual depictions described by... kuntmode, was it? and think "oh wow, i should try that"... personally i dont know anyone under eighteen who would look at those pics and do anything other than run for dear life... besides, how is minors accessing to look at naked women any different from swiping one of their dads playboys? its not. its all a matter of what parents allow, intentionally or not. parents who care enough to not want ther children to view such things should care enough to discuss these things with their children. things like, this is wrong, and things like, thats acceptable between adults. kids know the difference between adult and child. i understand they will still engage in sex to prove they Are adults and "grown up", but this is also something parents are responsible for discussing. if adults will not take responsibilty for their children and the actions and moral welfare of those same kids, then they should NOT produce the chidren in the first place. kids are, literally, an eighteen year commitment. and to whomever mentioned kids getting their mom or dads credit cards.... why the hell is the card in the kids reach? if the child is old enough to get ahold of the card and use it accurately, then the child is old enough to be disciplined or punished for such unauthorized uses and inappropriate behavior... its not that parents dont know their kids know abotu sex, its that the parents who play ostrich and pretend "oh, my kid doesnt know about sex" are too stupid to understand that yes, your child Does. kids know. those are the people who arent even parents... they are dams and sires... being a parent means parenting your child(ren) and raising them as best you possibly can... i know you cant be there all the time, no parent can, but for gods sakes try to teach your children some standard of "acceptable" and "unacceptable".


sorry that this turned into a ranting raving bitchletter.... but its from the heart and i mean every word of it.... its just my opinion.

 

[Ms_Lilith]

I'm sorry, I must have misinterpreted the rules. I thought it meant I could not write erotic depictions of sex with people under 18. I did not think it applied to ESSAYS, that analyse the arbitrary laws that cause the necessity of such rules.

Even in posts, we are not supposed to write about our own underage experiences. The site is for experiences over the age of 18. If you wanted to write about your mother and grandmother's experiences, perhaps find another site, but this one is very specific in that we are not to bring up sexual situations in any way concerning underage children.

 

[Guest]

so. even if Lit becomes one of those sites that charges a dollar (supposedly) for "age verification"..... some of us are over eighteen and dont have credit cards... shocking? shouldnt be. next option is to use SSNs for age verification... a huge ordeal in and of itself. plus, i dont know about you, but i would never give over my ssn for an erotic stories site... no matter what you do there will always be kids accessing adult sites... the question is, where would they get the idea in the first place? other kids, would be my guess... besides.... most kids arent going to look at the visual depictions described by... kuntmode, was it? and think "oh wow, i should try that"... personally i dont know anyone under eighteen who would look at those pics and do anything other than run for dear life... besides, how is minors accessing to look at naked women any different from swiping one of their dads playboys? its not. its all a matter of what parents allow, intentionally or not. parents who care enough to not want ther children to view such things should care enough to discuss these things with their children. things like, this is wrong, and things like, thats acceptable between adults. kids know the difference between adult and child. i understand they will still engage in sex to prove they Are adults and "grown up", but this is also something parents are responsible for discussing. if adults will not take responsibilty for their children and the actions and moral welfare of those same kids, then they should NOT produce the chidren in the first place. kids are, literally, an eighteen year commitment. and to whomever mentioned kids getting their mom or dads credit cards.... why the hell is the card in the kids reach? if the child is old enough to get ahold of the card and use it accurately, then the child is old enough to be disciplined or punished for such unauthorized uses and inappropriate behavior... its not that parents dont know their kids know abotu sex, its that the parents who play ostrich and pretend "oh, my kid doesnt know about sex" are too stupid to understand that yes, your child Does. kids know. those are the people who arent even parents... they are dams and sires... being a parent means parenting your child(ren) and raising them as best you possibly can... i know you cant be there all the time, no parent can, but for gods sakes try to teach your children some standard of "acceptable" and "unacceptable".


sorry that this turned into a ranting raving bitchletter.... but its from the heart and i mean every word of it.... its just my opinion.

Great minds think alike!

 

[LisaFunOne1]

Great minds think alike!

: random grin at cv : thanks doll

 

[Ms_Lilith]

Great minds think alike!

But fools seldom differ.



(that's just the end of that quote, just tacking it on for good measure)

 

[LisaFunOne1]

But fools seldom differ.
(that's just the end of that quote, just tacking it on for good measure)

huh... i always figured there had to be more to that quote than just those couple words. thanks Vixenshe

 

[REDWAVE]

At common law

Traditionally, at common law in England, the age of consent was 12 for girls and 14 for boys. Only in relatively recent times has the age of consent been raised to 18. In my opinion, there is a fundamental human right to discuss and describe sexual situations between adults and minors, or among minors, and to view virtual child pornogrpahy, in which images are altered or created. That does not require the sexual exploitation of any real children.

Of course, especially given the current legal and political climate, I can understand why Laurel would choose to err on the side of caution.

 

[Guest]

Re: At common law

In my opinion, there is a fundamental human right to discuss and describe ......... and to view virtual child pornogrpahy, in which images are altered or created.

Boy, aren't you risque...

 

[Shale]

Re: At common law

Traditionally, at common law in England, the age of consent was 12 for girls and 14 for boys. Only in relatively recent times has the age of consent been raised to 18.

That age disparity was one of the points of my essay. Only 15 states in the US have 18 as the age of consent and 8 states it's 17. 16 is the age in over half the states and in Hawaii it is 14. To me that seems the ages are quite arbitrarily arrived at, some too old and others perhaps too young.

I also pointed out in the essay that some countries in which homosexual relations were not outright illegal the age was often higher than for heterosexual relations.

Worldwide the age of consent ranges from 13 to 21 (Trinidad), with most countries putting it at 15 or 16.

Hope posting this info on the message board doesn't get the site shut down as some have indicated. I got it from another internet site.

Shale

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Banned on Literotica

One of my co-workers, also a connoisseur of Literotica was surprised when I told her that I had a piece submitted that was banned by the editors. She couldn't believe, with all the variety of fringe sexuality written on Literotica that I could be banned. Amongst the stories of fucking mom, fucking dad, or raping sis that regularly appear there she couldn't imagine what I could write that would not be published.

It wasn't even a piece of my usual scentillating porn, but was in fact an essay. I dared to question the age of consent laws as being unrealistic and arbitrary. I proposed that the age of consent at 18 was set too high, and that over half the United States and most other countries agreed with me.

I realize the rule that all portrayals on Literotica, for legal reasons must indicate participants over the age of 18. In the essay I did express a desire for an under 18 person, but did not write about such a desire being fulfilled. I factually reported that my mother had sex at 14 and my grandmother at 16, not an unusual occurrence in the real world of the 1920s and '40s (or even today).

Ironically, the same story that was banned on Literotica was published in a free weekly here in South Florida, available in boxes all over the city to anyone under 18. It was deemed safe and appropriate by the editors and authorities here, but Miami may have lower standards of propriety than Literotica.

What do you guys think of this? Give me an e-mail address and I'll send you the contraband essay.

Shale

The age of consent in my fair state is 16. I checked when I was in my early-mid 20's and still mildly interested in 17 year old girls.

 

[AnelizeDarkEyes]

give it up already will ya <eyeroll>