Bad Boys and Nice Guys: Megyn Kelly's Trials at Fox News Makes a Great Analogy

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Megyn Kelly's experience with Fox News after her interview with Donald Trump teaches us a good lesson about why smart women avoid self-destructive men, and why nice guys shouldn't pine for women who go for bad boys.

Recently, Megyn Kelly of Fox News moderated a debate between 2016 Republican Presidential Primary candidates. Donald Trump, one of the candidates, derailed the debate with an off-topic tirade against her, implying she was suffering from PMS (http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/politics/donald-trump-cnn-megyn-kelly-comment/), among other verbal atrocities he inflicted upon her. He subsequently retweeted comments calling her a bimbo on Twitter (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ump-megyn-kelly-bimbo-women-republican-debate), and the Republican Party base also turned on her. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ce4b064d5910adc4d?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067) Fox News, initially denouncing Trump, quickly came back around to seek his favor. (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/08/fox-news-picked-trump-over-megyn-kelly.html)

Donald Trump, as many know, has a long history of misogynist remarks. (http://www.bustle.com/articles/9068...t-perfectly-prove-that-this-guy-should-not-be) (http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...1f1bec-3de4-11e5-9c2d-ed991d848c48_story.html) Likewise, however, those who have gotten to know Fox News also know that Fox News is well known for their rampant misogyny. (http://theweek.com/articles/452807/fox-news-culture-sexism) (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/...-Sexism-On-Fox-News-Grab-The-Air-Sickness-Bag) Yet Megyn Kelly joined this company anyway.

It should be no surprise to the world at large that the misogynist crowd that Fox News has cultivated for many years, turned on her in a big way after she called out Trump for his misogyny. She made the mistake of questioning not only Donald Trump's behavior, but by proxy, Fox News's unspoken but routinely practiced business model. That business model is throwing out the raw meat of hate for anyone who's not a part of the world of straight rich white males or their rabid working-class minions. Considering that Donald Trump is the current Republican Golden Boy according to the GOP voter base (http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ll-donald-trump-clear-republican-frontrunner/), what happened to her should not have been surprising. She should have, in fact, seen this coming: the warning signs were obvious to anyone who has been watching Trump, as well as Fox News, and their audience. The hailstones were there, the roaring winds were there - it should have been highly obvious to Megyn Kelly that by calling out Trump on his sexism, was going to get swept away in a F5 tornado of misogyny.

Not that she shouldn't have called him out, of course. Trump had this coming. And she's certainly not to blame for Trump's behavior, or that of his fans, or Fox News. The mistake she made, however, was expecting anything besides exactly what she got: verbal attacks from him, insane death threats from Trump's followers (http://www.businessinsider.com/megyn-kelly-death-threats-trump-supporters-2015-8), and betrayal by her employer. Megyn Kelly has spent years laying down with these dogs, and has finally come up with fleas. Enough of them that she has decided to take a vacation from Fox News. Oh, wait, sorry, her sudden vacation wasn't due to this incident. Really, it wasn't. Fox News vigorously, desperately/adamantly insists that it wasn't. (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/15/fox-megyn-kelly-vacation-not-prompted-trump-idea-t/)

Now how does this tie into the issue of bad boys? Simple, because bad boys are similar to Fox News - they don't care about anyone but themselves and their own group and are given to acts of physical and verbal bullying, and countless other examples of destructive and self-destructive and sometimes illegal behavior. Those who are even moderately observant can spot these guys a mile away, sometimes before they find themselves in said bad boys' paths, sometimes not.

Strangely enough, those who date these unstable elements, don't ever seem to see the warning signs. Despite seeing his anti-social behavior toward others, it's always some huge surprise to a woman when her bad boy lover cheats on her or otherwise treats her like total crap. Sometimes, puzzlingly enough, she sees the warning signs, but then decides that she wants to change said bad boy; funny how that never works out, but yet there's no shortage of women buying into this fantasy of rehabilitating these men. And like Megyn Kelly being bombarded by death threats from her employer's long-time loyal audience, it shouldn't even be a surprise for a woman when she finds her bad boy has brought home a sexually transmitted disease from one of his many other fans. It's like voting for Conservative Republicans and then wondering how one wound up having to answer to their boss for buying contraception on your employee health care plan (http://www.ibtimes.com/ariz-birth-c...-fire-women-pill-based-religious-views-425530). (Also see: the Hobby Lobby ruling. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/what-the-hobby-lobby-ruling-means-for-america.html) "Don't blame the victim!" they'd scream - but they voted Conservative, and these people have a track record of fighting contraception. What else did anyone expect to happen? Likewise, dating a bad boy should bring the expectation that he's going to be an incorrigible jerk. That's what bad boys do. There is no teaching bad boys to be good citizens; especially not when they are being deluged with the highest possible form of positive encouragement. Likewise, there is no encouraging Fox News to rethink its approach to journalism when a popular journalist throws herself into their arms. There can only be the sheer inevitability of betrayal and hurt when one dates a bad boy, and rampant misogyny from Fox News, and death threats if one of their employees stands up to them and the current Golden Boy of Conservatism who is in the act of bringing higher ratings to their network. Because, you know, their rabid, frothing audience that they've cultivated for years.

Oh, and there is a lesson here for nice guys, too. Megyn Kelly was a bit of a bad girl herself. Consider her racially insensitive remarks about Santa and Jesus being white, and implying a black Santa or Jesus was somehow wrong. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat...gyn_kelly_thinks_so_but_santa_s_not_real.html) Women who get with bad boys aren't good, even if they say they are. They've got a little of that self-destructiveness within themselves. Those of you who pine for these women and ask "why won't they date me!" - beware. You won't like what you get, if she for some reason decides to drop the bad boy and jump into your arms. Eventually you will get very badly hurt when she cheats on you or makes fun of your hobbies, or other insensitive crap. It's bound to happen, because it's in her. That's why she hangs around bad boys - because they are a more extreme version of herself. Megyn Kelly holds some of the same nasty prejudices Fox News has - they're a more extreme version of her. Just as Megyn Kelly is a Conservative in liberal's clothing (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...al_the_kelly_report_on_fox_news_reviewed.html), a woman who dates a bad boy is a bad girl waiting to come out. And if you're a nice guy, she will come out at your expense. Think: abuse, infidelity, and other horrors.

In the end, a woman who has been burned one too many times by bad boys should do what Megyn Kelly did - take a vacation, but from men, rather than from Fox News. While on that vacation they should take the time to rethink their lives... NOT go date nice guys. Megyn Kelly needs to take this vacation time to reflect on where she went wrong in life by choosing the Conservative path, and women who date bad boys need to reflect on where they went wrong in choosing hazardous men. Feminists will, of course, say this is about blaming women - but the reality is, bad boys will not change... just like Fox News will never change. They are like fleas, you do not lie down in flea-infested areas and hope not to come up scratching all over. Fleas bite and they infest, it's what they do. Fox News spews racism and misogyny, it's what they do. And likewise, bad boys behave like jerks, cheat and abuse - it's what they do. You cannot change them; you can only change you: as in, rethink your life and make it so you learn to avoid these disasters.

And one last note to nice guys: even if she's the woman of your dreams, if you see a woman dumping a bad boy, and she eyes you... RUN. Rebounds are bad situations to begin with, but this one is a major recipe for disaster. Just. RUN.
 
Trump finally "called out" the media and its incessant bias. The media's job is to report facts and fairly moderate debates, etc.

The media's job is not to ask unfair, hostile questions to people. That's why Trump is popular, despite his many failings (foreign policy vis-à-vis his slavish pro-Israel foreign policy views).

He is the first public figure to stand up to the media, and not be destroyed in the process. The tower of media power is now starting to fall. Thank you, President Trump!
 
Not going into to the political aspect here, but the thread title caught my attention.
Bad boys vs. nice guys?

He might be entertaining & funny, but Donald Trump wears a wig, is ugly and anything but smooth and suave.
So, if Donald Trump is the poster child for a "bad boy", how would a "nice guy" look like, in your opinion? I shudder.
 
If you are going to call someone out better make sure you can kick their ass first.

She attacked Trump first thing showing her true personal agenda.

After that, it didn't really matter what Trump said...The damage was done.
 
Not going into to the political aspect here, but the thread title caught my attention.
Bad boys vs. nice guys?

He might be entertaining & funny, but Donald Trump wears a wig, is ugly and anything but smooth and suave.
So, if Donald Trump is the poster child for a "bad boy", how would a "nice guy" look like, in your opinion? I shudder.
A nice guy is someone who is NOT a rich dude who goes around making sexist comments about women. It's got nothing to do with looks. And as for smooth and suave, he's sure got charisma. Look at all the numbnuts following him.

And FGB, dude, she had a good reason for calling him out on his bullshit. He's a demagogue, a fucking Nazi. Would that someone called out Hitler like that.
 
I'm reading Ted Bundy's bio. Cute, muscular, graduated college with honors, admitted to law school, worked as a crisis counselor for years, Mister Nice Guy till he started killing women.

#Blackliesmatter
 
I'm reading Ted Bundy's bio. Cute, muscular, graduated college with honors, admitted to law school, worked as a crisis counselor for years, Mister Nice Guy till he started killing women.

#Blackliesmatter

lool…
He answered my question
 
lool…
He answered my question

Women instinctively sense that nice guys are real trouble.

I was in WALMART this morning, needed to fart, and let her blow. Nice guys never fart, they cut throats.
 
lool…
He answered my question
THAT is your definition of a nice guy? He plays by the rules and gets an education ergo he's secretly thinking of killing lots of women?

That, folks, is what is wrong with the world...
 
THAT is your definition of a nice guy? He plays by the rules and gets an education ergo he's secretly thinking of killing lots of women?

That, folks, is what is wrong with the world...

kinda… bad boys have "it" and always win
and the other ones are called sore losers who take it on the whole world
 
I keep hearing this BS that Republicans are up and arms over this. But I have yet to meet a Republican who supports Trump or is not not laughing their ass off over what Megyn did. :confused:

On a side note Lady F has a banging ass
 
kinda… bad boys have "it" and always win
and the other ones are called sore losers who take it on the whole world
You call them sore losers and then you get upset when misogyny erupts? Misogyny toward the same group that calls them sore losers? Toward the same group that idolizes criminals and sociopaths, which is what bad boys are?

And then you actually expect sympathy when you get your ass kicked, cheated on or given STDs by a bad boy.

Man, that's some planet strange right there...

This is why we need sex robots.
 
You call them sore losers and then you get upset when misogyny erupts? Misogyny toward the same group that calls them sore losers? Toward the same group that idolizes criminals and sociopaths, which is what bad boys are?

And then you actually expect sympathy when you get your ass kicked, cheated on or given STDs by a bad boy.

Man, that's some planet strange right there...

This is why we need sex robots.

Holy Shit
 
You call them sore losers and then you get upset when misogyny erupts? Misogyny toward the same group that calls them sore losers? Toward the same group that idolizes criminals and sociopaths, which is what bad boys are?

And then you actually expect sympathy when you get your ass kicked, cheated on or given STDs by a bad boy.

Man, that's some planet strange right there...

This is why we need sex robots.

No, they are anything But criminals and sociopaths. They are graceful and charming, we need some charm in our lives.
Those good guys that you're talking about… most of them are boring. I wish them good luck with their sex robots.
And bad boys use condoms - they don't give you STDs.
 
A nice guy is someone who is NOT a rich dude who goes around making sexist comments about women. It's got nothing to do with looks. And as for smooth and suave, he's sure got charisma. Look at all the numbnuts following him.

And FGB, dude, she had a good reason for calling him out on his bullshit. He's a demagogue, a fucking Nazi. Would that someone called out Hitler like that.

Asking him about things like that is fine...if she was that nasty and intense with everyone else but, she was not she made haste to bust his chops the first thing, thus showing her main agenda at that time was to show Mr. Trump in a bad light.

(He really doesn't need any help on those issues.)

Notice I'm not saying her subject matter was wrong or things like that do not need to be addressed.

This is the way I saw it see it now and will see it tomorrow.

She did herself no good service that night.

She went about in exactly the wrong way.

She should NOT have held that position if she was that biased.
 
No, they are anything But criminals and sociopaths. They are graceful and charming, we need some charm in our lives.
Those good guys that you're talking about… most of them are boring. I wish them good luck with their sex robots.
And bad boys use condoms - they don't give you STDs.
You're kidding, right? Just about everything in the universe that is credible, defines bad boys in the category of anti-social with criminal tendencies.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2538462/

http://www.crimetimes.org/ct164.pdf

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/take-all-prisoners/200904/prince-charming-your-bad-boy-is-not

I mean, really, you got any actual counter facts for this?
 
Asking him about things like that is fine...if she was that nasty and intense with everyone else but, she was not she made haste to bust his chops the first thing, thus showing her main agenda at that time was to show Mr. Trump in a bad light.
Good point. She should have asked him about his other core political business model instead:













































bashing Mexicans.
 
"bashing Mexicans"



That too.

He needs to make a clear distinction between citizens and Illegals.

There are as many Mexicans in Texas as there are Whitish people.

No surprise there, they made it here first. Not only did my family help another immigrate to the USA (Texas) we have a nice Young man married into the family )

Given the chance Mexican people have the same hopes, dreams and goals as everyone else and will work damned hard to achieve it.

I find them to be a lot more conservative than one might think.

I wish I could say the same for more of our citizens.
 
You're kidding, right? Just about everything in the universe that is credible, defines bad boys in the category of anti-social with criminal tendencies.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2538462/

http://www.crimetimes.org/ct164.pdf

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/take-all-prisoners/200904/prince-charming-your-bad-boy-is-not

I mean, really, you got any actual counter facts for this?

yes, I was (kidding), sorry.
I never thought of men (or people, for that matter) in that way. I think of them in the line of 'good people' versus 'bad people'.
 
yes, I was (kidding), sorry.
I never thought of men (or people, for that matter) in that way. I think of them in the line of 'good people' versus 'bad people'.
Aw, hell.

Well played, hssh345

well friggin played.
 
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