Axelrod: Limbaugh, Maher sexist comments different


“He went after a civilian about very specific behavior, that was a lie, speaking for a party that has systematically gone after women’s rights all year, on the public airwaves,” he told ABC News’ Jake Tapper. “I used a rude word about a public figure who gives as good as she gets, who’s called people ‘terrorist’ and ‘unAmerican.’”

“The First Amendment was specifically designed for citizens to insult politicians,” Maher added. “Libel laws were written to protect law students speaking out on political issues from getting called whores by Oxycontin addicts.”

Although Maher is no fan of Limbaugh, he has opposed efforts to push him off the radio. Maher suffered cancellation of his old show Politically Incorrect after controversial comments he made following the 9/11 attacks.

I think Maher is wrong to not help push him off the air.
 
They are different. One is a comic going after a politician. This should always be possible. Make all the Bill Clinton cigar pimp jokes you want. We should all be free to make fun of politicians all the time, even if it's tasteless (which Maher's comment was IMO).

The other is a talk show host using the public airwaves to abuse a single private citizen. Private citizens can definitely be victims of crimes such as slander and defamation, not to mention that the abuse of private citizens is contrary to the stated use of public airwaves.
 
They are different. One is a comic going after a politician. This should always be possible. Make all the Bill Clinton cigar pimp jokes you want. We should all be free to make fun of politicians all the time, even if it's tasteless (which Maher's comment was IMO).

The other is a talk show host using the public airwaves to abuse a single private citizen. Private citizens can definitely be victims of crimes such as slander and defamation, not to mention that the abuse of private citizens is contrary to the stated use of public airwaves.

When you go in front of a staged hearing (it was news conference) you let members of the democratic party pimp you out 1st why shouldn't limbaugh not say what he did?
 
Derp? Derp Derp!

When you go in front of a staged hearing (it was news conference) you let members of the democratic party pimp you out 1st why shouldn't limbaugh not say what he did?

^^^Glibertarians can rationalize anything. ANYTHING!
 
When you go in front of a staged hearing (it was news conference) you let members of the democratic party pimp you out 1st why shouldn't limbaugh not say what he did?

Nobody's saying Fluke should be immune from criticism for saying she thinks birth control should be covered. But attacking her as a slut-hooker who can barely waddle into the Capitol building because of all the cock she's had insider her is not "criticism".
 
I think Maher is wrong to not help push him off the air.

You mean you think Maher is wrong to support the principle of free speech?

Free speech means just that, regardless whether you find it offensive (being unoffended never has been a fundamental liberty, basic human right or whatever).

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You mean you think Maher is wrong to support the principle of free speech?

Free speech means just that, regardless whether you find it offensive (being unoffended never has been a fundamental liberty, basic human right or whatever).

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Free speech has nothing to do with being on the air though. Rush could be pushed off the air and he would be just as free to say whatever he wants.

On his porch.
 
When you go in front of a staged hearing (it was news conference) you let members of the democratic party pimp you out 1st why shouldn't limbaugh not say what he did?
Because it makes him look like a complete idiot?
 
Prolly 99% of Americans dont give a rats ass for Limbaugh or Fluke. Its anuther Democrat sponsored OWS eruption. The Democrats are desperate to find anything to excite their people.

Jobs might do it.
 
They are different. One is a comic going after a politician. This should always be possible. Make all the Bill Clinton cigar pimp jokes you want. We should all be free to make fun of politicians all the time, even if it's tasteless (which Maher's comment was IMO).

The other is a talk show host using the public airwaves to abuse a single private citizen. Private citizens can definitely be victims of crimes such as slander and defamation, not to mention that the abuse of private citizens is contrary to the stated use of public airwaves.

Saying that Flucke has not decided to make her career as a public figure engaged in political action is compartmentalizing. She was not some innocent plucked out of thin air, or randomly, but rather an operative chosen, without expertise, on a subject to willingly make a political attack.

Trig Palin, on the other hand, did no such thing any more than Willow...

But, at the time, we were told that it was okay to go after them because they were political props, but the Obama children were off limits because they were not political props.
 
Prolly 99% of Americans dont give a rats ass for Limbaugh or Fluke. Its anuther Democrat sponsored OWS eruption. The Democrats are desperate to find anything to excite their people.

Jobs might do it.

*chuckle*

How about releasing the strategic reserve to try and hide the inflation you caused by printing cheap money to delay economic pain until after the next election, then the next, and then the next, until a Republican gets into office so he/she can take the pain blame...

;) ;)

... what's not to like about that plan?
 
Saying that Flucke has not decided to make her career as a public figure engaged in political action is compartmentalizing. She was not some innocent plucked out of thin air, or randomly, but rather an operative chosen, without expertise, on a subject to willingly make a political attack.

Trig Palin, on the other hand, did no such thing any more than Willow...

But, at the time, we were told that it was okay to go after them because they were political props, but the Obama children were off limits because they were not political props.

Fluke's a tarbaby the Dems placed on Limbaugh's path.
 
Fluke's a tarbaby the Dems placed on Limbaugh's path.

They did not aim at Limbaugh; that was an attack of opportunity.

There was a phase here that lasted about six months where every single Beck Comedy bit ABOUT ELECTED OFFICIALS was the reason to take him off the air.

Really, these people have no morals or standards and because they do everything they do can be explained and every attack can be justified even when their doing and attacking are identical.
 
They did not aim at Limbaugh; that was an attack of opportunity.

There was a phase here that lasted about six months where every single Beck Comedy bit ABOUT ELECTED OFFICIALS was the reason to take him off the air.

Really, these people have no morals or standards and because they do everything they do can be explained and every attack can be justified even when their doing and attacking are identical.

Maybe. I still suspect they baited their hook for Limbaugh. His groveling is pathetic.
 
What's their next desperate move going to be?

The "War on Women" ploy backfired, as did the "Limbaugh Eruption."

The strategic reserve plan has been outed far too soon to be of any value now. It is in the process of being turned into a cheap political ploy before it's been implemented. As a matter of fact it may turn out to be a significant negative if they ever do implement it, but it's too early to tell right now. Regardless the president is falling back on the traditional democrat tactic of 'investigating the oil companies.' How many of these circuses are they going to put on before everyone, even their supporters, realize that it's just a show?

Afghanistan is coming apart at the seams while citizens are being subjected to more and more of what can only be called 'police state' tactics. This administration seems to have a serious problem with enemy identification.

ObamaCare is hanging around their necks like the proverbial albatross and that particular carcass is smelling worse by the day.

I can't wait to see what they try to capitalize on, or manufacture, next.

Ishmael
 
I love the explanations for the new CBO numbers...



Of course, it was worse than we realized, is the lead gambit.
 
I love the explanations for the new CBO numbers...



Of course, it was worse than we realized, is the lead gambit.

And if history is any guide you may rest assured that even those numbers are mis-underestimated. :)

Medicare/Medicaid was off by a factor of 4 when the dust had settled and the real numbers came in. The latest projections on ObamaCare are only off the original 'estimates' by 2.3 or so.

Ishmael
 
I'm seeing the attacks on Mormonism beginning from the tolerance and diversity crowd...


The last poll numbers for the automatic loser have shook them to the core; they've decided not to wait so they can get to Santorum.

lol

Two Degrees of Separation...
 
I'm seeing the attacks on Mormonism beginning from the tolerance and diversity crowd...


The last poll numbers for the automatic loser have shook them to the core; they've decided not to wait so they can get to Santorum.

lol

Two Degrees of Separation...

Apparently they have no intention of paying attention to the exit polls. (See my statement re. enemy identification above.)

Ishmael
 
You have to target and isolate and one of the tools is the unassailable victim...



Whatta Flucke of strategy!
 
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