Authors - Deceased

[Zeke503]

I thought that many of the readers may appreciate if we had some thread that listed authors that will no longer be able to complete another story or complete the chaptered story that they may have had running for some time.

I know that I was reading the story "The Morrisons" by RekHiker, and I found out from Fat_Dad that Rek had passed. I also know that Callicious who Wrote "Justin Thyme" has passed. I will miss both of these authors.

If you are friends with any author on this site and know of there passing, I would ask you to post a notice of their passing so that we readers will know that we will not be seeing new content under their name.

Thank you.

 

[HeyAll]

I think the most famous example is 'alwayswantedto' who was for years the top mom/son writer on this site. He took down his library here when he apparently had health issues.

 

[Clancy31015]

Future of stories

What's the future of the franchises they created and never finished? RecHiker, Prolonged_Debut10, Callicious, JammyJimmy, and so many others are left in the air and their loyal readers want continuations and wrap ups of some of the best stories on Literotica. I really want to see the stories continued, the better dedicated authors are dying off and not many of the new authors have the talent or dedication or the education to replace them later. Many of the authors who started before 2010 are approaching their golden years and with so many health issues in the world in recent years, I would love to see Literotica come up with a pathway to allow authors to write alternate endings or unauthorized continuations, maybe allow the stories to be post but to hide certain information so that the stories can't be listed in Top Stories of the Week or Month, hide the voting, block the stories from participating in contests (unless there is an special category for it with the victor's prize being donated).
Fat_Dad and RecHiker were working together on a unified universe but the site removed Fat_Dad's works and profile following RecHiker's death earlier this year and a rumor is someone complained he had been using characters of RecHiker's without authorization, even though RecHiker's own stories noted the fact that Fat_Dad was collaborating with RecHiker.

 

[KeithD]

There is no such pathway. Copyright protection extends for seventy years beyond the author's death.

 

[MadeleineSinha]

Is it just me or does anyone else think hearing about authors passing might be more suited to a thread of condolences and celebration of their writing rather than “don’t go looking for any more from Madeleine, she’s dead”

 

[ElectricBlue]

What's the future of the franchises they created and never finished? RecHiker, Prolonged_Debut10, Callicious, JammyJimmy, and so many others are left in the air and their loyal readers want continuations and wrap ups of some of the best stories on Literotica.

They remain unfinished. If a writer dies, their stories die with them, unless they have made a prior arrangement for someone else to continue. Nobody but the author has rights to their stories, and I believe it is morally wrong to assume some entitlement, just because you want to see them "finished."

I really want to see the stories continued, the better dedicated authors are dying off and not many of the new authors have the talent or dedication or the education to replace them later.

I find this statement offensive. What a great way to encourage new writers, not.

 

[lovecraft68]

Is it just me or does anyone else think hearing about authors passing might be more suited to a thread of condolences and celebration of their writing rather than “don’t go looking for any more from Madeleine, she’s dead”

I was thinking that too. An "In memory of" type of thread.

But I guess it sucks when people selfishly die and leave no notice and readers on a free site have to suffer never knowing if a story will be finished.

I wish life was so simple that an unfinished series was such a source of concern.

 

[MadeleineSinha]

I was thinking that too. An "In memory of" type of thread.

But I guess it sucks when people selfishly die and leave no notice and readers on a free site have to suffer never knowing if a story will be finished.

I wish life was so simple that an unfinished series was such a source of concern.

If there was a "like" button i'd be pushing it.

 

[TadOverdon]

If there was a "like" button i'd be pushing it.

Truly, we need Like button for posts like that one.

Maybe the site upgrades will eventually include a newer version of vBulletin or even a switch to a modern software platform like Xenforo.

Or not. I'm told that the database import is a bear.

Deceased authors should be memorialized and their work respected. That said, I'm not such a fan of the No One Is Worthy of Their Pencil Cases genre of literary nostalgia.

 

[Bramblethorn]

What's the future of the franchises they created and never finished? RecHiker, Prolonged_Debut10, Callicious, JammyJimmy, and so many others are left in the air and their loyal readers want continuations and wrap ups of some of the best stories on Literotica. I really want to see the stories continued, the better dedicated authors are dying off and not many of the new authors have the talent or dedication or the education to replace them later. Many of the authors who started before 2010 are approaching their golden years and with so many health issues in the world in recent years,

Here's an idea: round up a bunch of those loyal readers to contribute to medical expenses for those authors, in exchange for the author's permission to go on working with their stories after they pass on.

I would love to see Literotica come up with a pathway to allow authors to write alternate endings or unauthorized continuations, maybe allow the stories to be post but to hide certain information so that the stories can't be listed in Top Stories of the Week or Month, hide the voting, block the stories from participating in contests (unless there is an special category for it with the victor's prize being donated).
Fat_Dad and RecHiker were working together on a unified universe but the site removed Fat_Dad's works and profile following RecHiker's death earlier this year and a rumor is someone complained he had been using characters of RecHiker's without authorization, even though RecHiker's own stories noted the fact that Fat_Dad was collaborating with RecHiker.

Yeah, the fact that you're collaborating with an author before they die doesn't automatically give you rights to go on using their work after they die (and are no longer in a position to give approval).

 

[_Lynn_]

Maybe it's my age, or my health, but I find the topic depressing. That said, I have to mention Slyc.

 

[Blind_Justice]

I really want to see the stories continued, the better dedicated authors are dying off and not many of the new authors have the talent or dedication or the education to replace them later.

I'm kinda speechless. Seriously? You're insulting everyone here who is not your favourite dead author. Way to go. Who the fuck are you to judge every other author? Do you have the slightest idea what my background is? How much work goes into my stories? Or anyone else's?

There are several good reasons why dead authors' stories are seldom continued. Copyright is one, the inevitable shift in styles is another. Unless someone from the author's family gives the green light to continue writing in that author's world, there is nothing you or any other fanboy can do. Also, Lit can do nothing. Authors grant Lit a non-exclusive license to publish their work, nothing more.

I'd suggest you start writing something of your own. Learn for yourself how hard it is to see a story, let alone a novel, through to completion. Then come back and whine some more. Until then:

Fuck off, dude.

 

[KeithD]

I think there's a way to approach this. Capture the footprint of the series you'd like to see extended and have an idea where you'd like to see it go, change all of the details--different location, characters, occupations, time periods, etc., and write what you want to write. If maintaining a connection to the original is important to you, you could include a proslug "Inspired by. . ."

 

[KeithD]

Maybe it's my age, or my health, but I find the topic depressing. That said, I have to mention Slyc.

Yep, Slyc is missed.

 

[LaRascasse]

Another author of immense talent taken far too soon - Colleen Thomas

 

[MelissaBaby]

I'm kinda speechless. Seriously? You're insulting everyone here who is not your favourite dead author. Way to go. Who the fuck are you to judge every other author? Do you have the slightest idea what my background is? How much work goes into my stories? Or anyone else's?

There are several good reasons why dead authors' stories are seldom continued. Copyright is one, the inevitable shift in styles is another. Unless someone from the author's family gives the green light to continue writing in that author's world, there is nothing you or any other fanboy can do. Also, Lit can do nothing. Authors grant Lit a non-exclusive license to publish their work, nothing more.

I'd suggest you start writing something of your own. Learn for yourself how hard it is to see a story, let alone a novel, through to completion. Then come back and whine some more. Until then:

Fuck off, dude.

Thank god we all suck so bad; we don't have to worry that after we are dead, some douchebag will come along and fuck up our stories.

 

[KeithD]

Thank god we all suck so bad; we don't have to worry that after we are dead, some douchebag will come along and fuck up our stories.

Yes, I laughed.

 

[lovecraft68]

Thank god we all suck so bad; we don't have to worry that after we are dead, some douchebag will come along and fuck up our stories.

That's why I have decided to make it as challenging as possible to them by fucking up my own stories so bad it will be hard to top.

 

[MadeleineSinha]

I’m going into hospital for a heart op sometime in the next few months.
I’ll make sure I leave a cliffhanger before I am admitted in case I don’t come home again, just to piss Clancy off.
That’ll show him.

 

[SimonDoom]

Thank god we all suck so bad; we don't have to worry that after we are dead, some douchebag will come along and fuck up our stories.

Mic drop.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I'm kinda speechless. Seriously? You're insulting everyone here who is not your favourite dead author. Way to go. Who the fuck are you to judge every other author? Do you have the slightest idea what my background is? How much work goes into my stories? Or anyone else's?

I think part of it is that it's easier to notice the loss of an established author than the growth of a new one. It's a little like a forest: the old trees that fall are far more eye-catching than the saplings emerging to replace them.

But, yeah, a lot of readers seem not to understand how to compliment one author without insulting another. Or sometimes even the same author; "this story is great, not like your new stuff, you should go back to writing like that" is not the encouragement they think it is.

I think there's a way to approach this. Capture the footprint of the series you'd like to see extended and have an idea where you'd like to see it go, change all of the details--different location, characters, occupations, time periods, etc., and write what you want to write. If maintaining a connection to the original is important to you, you could include a proslug "Inspired by. . ."

This is a good solution, and plenty of traditionally published authors have gotten their start this way.

I guess the other option, for fans who want to stick closely to the original, is to write a more direct sequel and only share it privately among themselves. AFAIK there are no copyright issues when there's no publication.

 

[lovecraft68]

I think the most famous example is 'alwayswantedto' who was for years the top mom/son writer on this site. He took down his library here when he apparently had health issues.

I miss his work, and him as a friend. He reached out to me early on in my writing-after mu mom/son story "Becoming my mother's Lover" and told me how epic it was, and how he admired it. Coming from him I was blown away.

He was a big fan of my mature romance Home is where the heart is and was recommending it to people in the comments section of a couple of his stories.

He reached out to me when he told Manu he wanted to remove his stories and why, and told me I owed him for being able to get a 'cheap ride" up one spot on the top 10 list.

At one point I wanted to do a mom/son anthology and asked, you, Mr heyall as well as AWtoo to use one of your stories and for a cut of course, you both agreed, but I never got around to the project then by the time it came back into my mind, he had passed and even though he gave his blessing I didn't want to do it, would have been tacky to make money from someone who was gone.

I have some of his stories saved, but won't give them out to anyone who keeps popping up asking for them. He was adamant his work be erased because no one in his family knew of his writing.

On that note it would be nice if these vultures could respect a dead man's wishes.

 

[Emirus]

the better dedicated authors are dying off and not many of the new authors have the talent or dedication or the education to replace them.

Hello Mr Clancy. As with others I find your comments about the lack of talent in writers who began in the last 10 years, coupled with your disparaging remarks about their education, insulting. Mainly because I’m one of those writers and I’ve had the pleasure of reading and enjoyed stories written by some of those other authors you’ve insulted.

Your bio makes interesting reading and in itself lends itself to making derogatory remarks but I don’t think any of those writers you have insulted will sink as low as you.

I echo Lynn’s comments about this thread in that, laudable as it is in intent, it is a little depressing but, as she says, age and health has a bearing on that opinion and it doubtless applies to many others as well.

It is a pity some great stories will always remain unfinished but that’s the way it has to be.

 

[SimonDoom]

I think there's a way to approach this. Capture the footprint of the series you'd like to see extended and have an idea where you'd like to see it go, change all of the details--different location, characters, occupations, time periods, etc., and write what you want to write. If maintaining a connection to the original is important to you, you could include a proslug "Inspired by. . ."

This is a great idea. It's respectful of the previous work without ripping it off in any meaningful way. Authors don't have exclusive rights in the basic ideas of their works; they only have exclusive rights in the creative expression of those ideas. If you take someone's basic story idea, acknowledge your debt to it, and then write your own story with all the details changed, then you've done nothing wrong.

This won't, however, satisfy the desire of some readers to see a continuation of the story about characters they've become invested in. But the right attitude on that matter is simply to pay respects and bid farewell to those characters as we bid farewell to the authors that created them that have passed on.

 

[lovecraft68]

This is a great idea. It's respectful of the previous work without ripping it off in any meaningful way. Authors don't have exclusive rights in the basic ideas of their works; they only have exclusive rights in the creative expression of those ideas. If you take someone's basic story idea, acknowledge your debt to it, and then write your own story with all the details changed, then you've done nothing wrong.

This won't, however, satisfy the desire of some readers to see a continuation of the story about characters they've become invested in. But the right attitude on that matter is simply to pay respects and bid farewell to those characters as we bid farewell to the authors that created them that have passed on.

There's a big difference in what I'd consider a homage and a blatant continuation.

I agree with you it seems most people who come here want the direct continuation though, that's why the question is asked so often about picking up other people's work.