Aug 23, 2017 He lied about everything in Arizona, nothing new

[gotsnowgotslush]

Aug 23, 2017 He lied about everything in Arizona, nothing new


*shrug*

What was new ? The trusted, credentialed, vetted, major media news outlets sent forth weak, spineless, un-threatening men, to compliment Trump, and soothe Trump's anger.

WTF ?

Never ended his campaign.

Closed venue, private rally.
Closed residence, private property.
Closed to the public.
Closed to the media.
Closed to voters.
Closed to America.

It is a joke, for the "insiders."
(Trump trolls)
It is not for "outsiders" to understand.
(The majority of American citizens.)
Closed roads for Trump's excessive motorcade.
Closed city. Everything is closed.

Closed minds.
Closed to protesters.


Phoenix is not Boston

Trump told the crowd "there aren't too many people outside."

“Just so you know from the Secret Service, there aren’t too many people outside protesting."

Donald J. Trump, head of Trump Criminal Enterprises, Worldwide
Phoenix Convention Center, AZ
August 22, 2017


https://thinkprogress.org/thousands-protest-trump-in-phoenix-7eee110e1168/

"We had tens of thousands of people downtown peacefully exercising their First Amendment rights. "

Phoenix Police Chief Jeri Williams


Protesters against Trump,
on the North side of the street.
Trump trolls on the South side
of the street.

No arrests were made as of 6 p.m

At around 5:30 p.m., the line to enter the convention center for Trump’s speech stretched down Second Street, headed east on Washington Street to Fourth Street, found its way to Jefferson Street in front of Chase Field and extended to Talking Stick Resort Arena.

Shouting from across the roads, but no violence.

8:25 P.M.: Trump Ends Speech

While Trump and his motorcade make an escape, the police open fire with smoke, pepper spray, and tear gas.

8:38 P.M.: Gas Grenades In Phoenix



One warning from a police helicopter-

Trump had just finished his pep rally inside when the riot police began firing tear gas and pepper spray into crowds.

Timeline at link

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...donald-trump-phoenix-arizona-rally/575083001/

Tim Ring @timringTV

12h

Protester kicks tear gas back at police. Police shoot him with a rubber bullet on live TV. VIDEO:
0:34

( Male protester hit with a force that knocked him down.)

Leave! Now!

If you were elderly, had children with you, or you were disabled, there was no mercy. The smoke made it difficult to see how to disperse and leave. It had reached 108f outside. How do you do anything quickly, in the heat ?

Police began with smoke, then balls of pepper spray, then escalated to stun grenades or "flash bangs," then pepper spray, then stronger tear gas.

We were standing right on Third Street and Monroe, talking about how we should get something to eat after we cleaned up,” Aliento founder Montoya said. "Then I started seeing the gas and hearing people yell, 'Run, run!' and heard the really loud noises."


Montoya ran for a block, she said, her face and eyes burning.

"We heard the (police) helicopter going around and give the first warning: 'If you don’t leave/evacuate, we’re going to pepper spray you,' " she said. "We were trying to evacuate, but it was hard to see. I was coughing. You were disoriented. People were really scared."

Kate Sanders of Phoenix said, "The protesters hadn’t thrown anything. The police started it."


http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...-rally-phoenix-police-use-of-force/592170001/

Thank goodness, for George Takei.




George Takei @GeorgeTakei

Trump in Phoenix: "They are trying to take away our history and our heritage." We all know the code he's speaking. Disgraceful.

10:48 PM · Aug 22, 2017

 

[sr71plt]

Just for kicks, I flipped between the CNN and FOX coverage of the speech. Obviously they were listening to different speeches. The one I listened to was full-blown crazy Donald.

 

[JackLuis]

So, kind'a like a Nazi response from the cops then? Maybe the ACLU can put in a class action suit against the police for excessive force against the right to demonstrate against Nazis?

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Must admire dedicated, professional journalist's observations. Nailed all of the points, rang every bell, and took note of the "whistles.

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/23/545508739/are-you-ready-yet-to-accept-donald-trump-for-who-he-is


Trump's comments at this rally should stop the narrative that Trump will or can change. Think of this a little differently — that Trump, in fact, has been remarkably consistent.

Consider: There has been a usual pattern. Here's how it has gone — Trump says something attention-grabbing, outrageous or controversial. He gets lots of negative attention and criticism for it. Then, he adjusts and does something more on-script. The criticism dies down and people think maybe he is changing ("pivoting") and becoming more "presidential." And then he undercuts that with a tweet or rally soon after.

There's no reason to think that pattern will change. It's more likely he will continue to test the limits of provocation.

-ANALYSIS

"5 Truths About Trump Displayed In His Phoenix Rally"

August 23, 2017

Domenico Montanaro

gsgs comment-

"Justification ? We don't need no stinking justification."

-Trump trolls of 2017

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!

Lulled by repetition, we begin to ignore the familiar song, that Trump sings to "his" people. There is very little variation, but that does not mean that variation is excluded.

Chauncey DeVega points out the increase in poison, of Trump's toxic speeches-

In his speech in Phoenix, Donald Trump made thinly veiled threats of violence against the press (except for Fox News, which functions as his personal version of Pravda).

Trump suggested that the Democratic Party was treasonous and anti-American, if not actually “Communists.”

Trump implied that who oppose him, such as the anti-fascist movement, are enemies of the state and “agitators.”

"These are the conspiratorial ideas and themes that fascists and other authoritarians employ to subvert democracy and expand their power."

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/23/tru...ractions-victimology-and-threats-of-violence/

gsgs comment- Taking note of contradiction- Trump, himself, tells deliberate lies, that are obvious to anyone that bothers to look at the evidence. But, these lies are used in defense of an artificially created world, constructed out of lies. Trump is free to attack anyone that tries to use truth, facts, and proof to confront him. But, none are allowed to confront Trump without being repaid by an attack, involving Trump's lies.

If someone knows the facts,
and confronts him with
"Sir, that is a lie!"

It is a certainty that Trump would respond with the rapier response of "you are the one that is telling a lie! My many friends at FOX TV, and the denizens of Bizarro World, can refute your statements, and disqualify your proof (with more lies.)

Trump is speaking to "his" people, in a space where everyone that is not "his," is excluded. There is "us," and there is "them."


Of his media criticism, the president told the crowd of thousands shoehorned into the Phoenix convention center:

“You know where my heart is."

(With his collection of collaborators, and not with the rest of America, that still is waiting for a president ?)

" I’m only doing this to show you how damned dishonest these- (oh, those people ? Them ?) people are.”


The message that is drummed, over and over- Only "his" message and "his" supporters, are of value.

To re-enforce the string of similar messages, after the speech-


Well after his appearance had ended, Trump sent a tweet on his Twitter account saying: “Not only does the media give a platform to hate groups, but the media turns a blind eye to the gang violence on our streets.”

The "fake media" is out to get him!

“If you want to discover the source of the division in our country, look no further than the 'fake news' and the crooked media.”

http://www.snopes.com/2017/08/23/trump-revisits-charlottesville-comments-angry-speech/

"But the very dishonest media, those people right up there with all the cameras."

"So the -- and I mean truly dishonest people in the media and the fake media, they make up stories. They have no sources in many cases. They say "a source says" -- there is no such thing. But they don't report the facts."


"Dishonest people."



Because they have a double standard. Because the media is totally dishonest, and they have a double standard.

(Trump's enemy, is the enemy of "his" people, too.)

The media can attack me. But where I draw the line is when they attack you, which is what they do. When they attack the decency of our supporters.



Threat ? A call to action ? Because, after all...


You're taxpaying Americans who love our nation, obey our laws, and care for our people. It's time to expose the crooked media deceptions, and to challenge the media for their role in fomenting divisions.


Mirror, mirror, on the wall ?


These are sick people.


If you want to discover the source of the division in our country, look no further than the fake news and the crooked media...

... which would rather get ratings and clicks than tell the truth.


Who is Trump's media support group out to "get ?"


http://time.com/4912055/donald-trump-phoenix-arizona-transcript/


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/president-trump-revisits-charlottesville-comments-angry-speech/

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

"I’m scared about how this ends."

8/23/2017

"Forgive me if this is more personal reaction than reasoned analysis. The idea that Trump’s behavior during the campaign might be an act that made sense on some Bizarro Planet has passed. The hope that someone could influence him into more presidential conduct has faded steadily."

He spent much of the speech insulting the media, which (if you didn't already know) he considers “dishonest,” “crooked” and “fake.” He said it about 30 times last night.

Everything he said about his recent embarrassment over the tragedy in Charlottesville was either false, out of context or egomaniacal. He believes that everything he said in the aftermath of the tragedy was unobjectionable, he quoted extensively but highly selectively from all of the 17 versions of his efforts to explain his feelings about it, and he argued that all of them were pretty perfect but distorted by the fake media.

https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black...ech-lunatic-or-disturbing-or-just-plain-scary

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Trump is not just the first president in history to flunk the Don't Hug Nazis rule, he may be the first one to have a chief strategist stroll him through the Rose Garden on the way.

Former Breitbart chief and bestubbled alt-right Pope Steve Bannon, one of the few people to whom Trump listens before he tweets, reportedly consulted with Trump repeatedly over that weekend. Bannon, finally ousted six days after the Charlottesville tragedy, is said to have generally urged Trump to not criticize the alt-right too strongly, for fear of alienating Trump's core supporters.


Monday, August 14th, two days after the incident, Trump himself said "racism is evil" and added that "the KKK, neo-Nazis and white supremacists" were "criminals and thugs." But by the next day, he was back on the offensive in a wild-eyed impromptu presser at his Saddamoid Trump Tower that may go down as his Beautiful Mind break-from-reality moment.

He went to the lobby to face a phalanx of buzzing reporters, angrily barking back all those begrudging by-rote remarks he'd just made about the wrongness of bigots and racism. As he spoke, he was flanked by National Economic Council chair Gary Cohn, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao

"... who all looked like they were ready to swallow their own faces the moment Trump began to speak."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-why-trump-cant-quit-the-alt-right-w498515

 

[Hypoxia]

Outside Pissing In:
Steve Bannon’s Nationalism Is a Click-Scam Disguised as a Movement

Nationalists and populists rise from moments where the temptations to abandon principle, policy, and that harder work of ethical governance is too strong.

The two dirty secrets of nationalist populism are increasingly obvious. First, it’s not conservative; not even a little. All the fantasies of Trump-Bannon nationalism require a vastly expanded state, with greater powers over the economy and society. Free-market capitalism doesn’t pick economic winners and losers based on the president’s economic nostalgia, and limited-government conservatism isn’t marked a top-down ideological conformity strictly enforced by state media organs.

Second, nationalist populism isn’t a political philosophy or a real governing framework. It’s a con targeting the furious and the febrile, a Facebook click scam disguised as a movement. It’s nothing more than grunting, economically ignorant revanchism against a catalog of imaginary, opera-buffa villains. It requires a constantly expanding catalog of people to blame for an economy that changed more due to technology than a sinister cabal of brown people from faraway lands.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

We can't stop here! This is Bizarro Country!

Sally Yates, who served as the attorney general until she was fired by Trump, tweeted, "With his pardon pen, POTUS reveals his own contempt for our Constitution, our courts, and our founding principles of equality and justice."

The Old Yelling Orange is an advocate for denizens of Bizarro World, and yet, I am taken by surprise, again.

"thuggish autocrat, no accountability, no personal consequences ( with no respect for the law. Trump did not just put a finger on the scales of justice, he weighted a side with his foot, leg, and that side of his body. So very beneficial to Trump's trolls- Kelli Ward hugs Arpaio. Bizarro World rejoices.

U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., called Arpaio’s prosecution partisan and welcomed the pardon, saying in a statement that it “reflects the very reason we voted President Trump into the Oval Office, to uphold the rule of law.”

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...aio/599835001/


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/...edCoverage&region=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article


The man who did not obey the law, follow the law, or respect the rule of law-

Was expected to uphold the law ?

 

[NickStJohn]

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[sr71plt]

Trump's criticisms of his opponents could be a road map to his own crimes. He has a habit of accusing others of what he's doing himself as some sort of strange defense mechanism. This carries over to his lawyers too. When they (and he) threaten the Mueller investigators not to go someplace in an investigation path, it's a signal that the Mueller investigators are sure to find something juicy there.