Aside from bestiality and under 18, what is considered prohibited in a submission?

[Twisted_Little_Lady]

Hi there. I'm thinking about putting up some audio submissions, but I'm a little unclear on the guidelines. The page dedicated to this only specifies bestiality and underage as explicit no-no's, and some of my ideas and scripts are somewhat... boundary-pushing, to say the least.

Are threats of extreme violence or explicit non-consent permitted? For example, would I be able to use a knife or a similar implement as a coercive tool in a script? And what about extreme emotional or psychological abuse?

Cheers.

 

[ScrappyPaperDoodler]

I’m by no means an expert, but my understanding is that all parties in a non-consent story must (eventually) derive some form of pleasure from the encounter. Violence that is not sexual in nature is permitted, but if your character derives sexual pleasure from killing (for example) that crosses the line into snuff, which isn’t permitted.

I also believe that references to real people are controlled in various ways, but I’m not clear on the details.

As long as you adhere to the letter and spirit of the rules — as well as the tone of the site — you should be fine. There’s a lot of dark stuff and a lot of light stuff on Lit. It’s a big site and there’s space for all sorts, but they have the final say on what they allow on their platform.

 

[Twisted_Little_Lady]

Thanks. I more or less knew about snuff, but I wasn't entirely sure whether violence of a sexual nature was permitted or not.

What if the violence is expressed as a personal fantasy in a monologue? For example, if I say "I've always wanted you to take me some place remote and make me cum before you kill me," would that be out of line?

 

[Specula]

Hi there. I'm thinking about putting up some audio submissions, but I'm a little unclear on the guidelines. The page dedicated to this only specifies bestiality and underage as explicit no-no's, and some of my ideas and scripts are somewhat... boundary-pushing, to say the least.

Are threats of extreme violence or explicit non-consent permitted? For example, would I be able to use a knife or a similar implement as a coercive tool in a script? And what about extreme emotional or psychological abuse?

Cheers.

People who talk about being able to use a knife might need to be recorded by the police.

 

[ScrappyPaperDoodler]

Thanks. I more or less knew about snuff, but I wasn't entirely sure whether violence of a sexual nature was permitted or not.

What if the violence is expressed as a personal fantasy in a monologue? For example, if I say "I've always wanted you to take me some place remote and make me cum before you kill me," would that be out of line?

The site FAQ points to this post on the Editor’s Forum: http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=175666

The following appears there:

Was there excessive violence, snuff, or abuse of characters in your story?

Your story was too extreme for our guidelines. These judgments are subjective, and thus we can't give an exact definition of what exactly is "too much". Certain "violence" in a BDSM situation between consenting adults may be allowed, while the same "violence" between strangers in a non-consentual situation will not. Tone and respect for characters, as well as the "violent" scene within the context of the story, are what we make our judgments upon.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

Banned outright:

• snuff
• non-consent without some degree of pleasure,
• underage of any kind, including witessing or hearing
• bestiality, but that does not include fantasy characters such as werewolves

If there's a specific question, it might best be dealt with via PM to the site owner, Laurel. It is ultimately her decision and there is a certain amount of, shall we say, fuzziness in what will and will not permitted.

 

[MillieDynamite]

I have a story that has been in development about a serial killer that I'd never try to get on here. It just doesn't work for Lit, but I have other outlets for the story where I'd have no trouble posting it, should it ever get written.

Some stories need the violence, if not shown, then discussed, to work. At the time Dracula came to the screen, no portrayal which showed the violence in the book would have made it to screen. It wasn't even implied, other creepy elements had stand in for what they left out. Which was most of the fucking story!

 

[Twisted_Little_Lady]

People who talk about being able to use a knife might need to be recorded by the police.

I can think of a few fun scenarios involving some really dirty and corrupt cops...

 

[TadOverdon]

I was surprised to run across a story on the site featuring Kaley Cuoco. I thought that use of real people was verboten.

 

[Twisted_Little_Lady]

The site FAQ points to this post on the Editor’s Forum: http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=175666

The following appears there:

Right... so nothing I've seen points toward threats of violence being prohibited by the submission guidelines, only violence itself. What about other things, such as drugging?

 

[TadOverdon]

Right... so nothing I've seen points toward threats of violence being prohibited by the submission guidelines, only violence itself. What about other things, such as drugging?

I think The Strange Case of Doctor William Cosby has made drugging a pretty radioactive area of fantasy. Or it's just me. I'm writing a long thing about a sex drug and finding it real difficult to find my comfort zone there. Some version of consent is the key, at least in the context of the story.

 

[ScrappyPaperDoodler]

I was surprised to run across a story on the site featuring Kaley Cuoco. I thought that use of real people was verboten.

Out of curiosity, I did a quick search and there are 22 stories where her name appears in the title and 121 stories where her name appears either in the title or the text... Guess Lit authors really loved the Big Bang Theory.

 

[KeithD]

I was surprised to run across a story on the site featuring Kaley Cuoco. I thought that use of real people was verboten.

That definitely seems to be a "determined case by case and depending on the mood of the day" selection criteria issue here. I've used real people in my stories. I try not to have them doing anything that can't be documented as something they weren't prone to do.

 

[LAHomedog]

I think you are talking context. I believe you are talking case by case, story by story. The old Justice Potter Stewart, "I'll know it when I see it."

In my Spillane even story which is billed as "an erotic mystery" I killed 23 people and have violence all over the place. But it is a detective story. Context.

Also in a story reality and fantasy should be different. If I dream something horrible and then wake up to either think about it or better yet, talk about it, that is one thing. To just have the horrible thing actually happen, that's another thing.

Context.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Thanks. I more or less knew about snuff, but I wasn't entirely sure whether violence of a sexual nature was permitted or not.

What if the violence is expressed as a personal fantasy in a monologue? For example, if I say "I've always wanted you to take me some place remote and make me cum before you kill me," would that be out of line?

Probably.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I was surprised to run across a story on the site featuring Kaley Cuoco. I thought that use of real people was verboten.

The site has a category specifically intended for stories about real people, so no, not forbidden.

What is forbidden, by my understanding, is the combination of "real people" and "non-consent". That changed a few years back; there might be some older stories that do it, but it's no longer accepted.

Right... so nothing I've seen points toward threats of violence being prohibited by the submission guidelines, only violence itself. What about other things, such as drugging?

Searching on relevant tags is often a good way to find what Lit does and doesn't allow. In this case, looking for "roofies" finds several stories about drugged sex.

I don't think the word 'generally' was used without reason; it gives Laurel plenty of room to do accept stories that don't follow these criteria. And I believe that, sometimes, such stories are accepted when there's something more to them.

Can't recall the specific example, but I think I've seen authors talk about stories being accepted via that "generally" exception. My impression is that exceptions are more likely to be made for stories where the nonconsent scene isn't simply for titillation - e.g. using a scene of nonconsent with no pleasure for the victim to set up a story about how that victim moves on from sexual assault is more likely to get through than a sadistic rape from the perspective of the perpetrator.