As an author...

[EbonyFire77]

I'm wondering-- what obligation/courtesy do we have as literotica authors to our readers when it comes to the stories? To be more specific, if we make it clear that we're writing a series and then announce that "x, y, z story" will be written within 6 months, but don't ever write/submit it, are we still okay?

Not that I'm planning on doing that, but are there any guidelines we should be following when it comes to our stories? I've just started a series (unintentionally based on reader approval) and I'm wondering what is an appropriate time frame.

And also to my chagrin, I was reading a series where the author announced a story to be written, only to find out that was 3 years ago!! Arrgh it's left me so unsatisfied...

 

[sr71plt]

I'm wondering-- what obligation/courtesy do we have as literotica authors to our readers when it comes to the stories? To be more specific, if we make it clear that we're writing a series and then announce that "x, y, z story" will be written within 6 months, but don't ever write/submit it, are we still okay?

Not that I'm planning on doing that, but are there any guidelines we should be following when it comes to our stories? I've just started a series (unintentionally based on reader approval) and I'm wondering what is an appropriate time frame.

And also to my chagrin, I was reading a series where the author announced a story to be written, only to find out that was 3 years ago!! Arrgh it's left me so unsatisfied...

No rules/obligations on that--although, as you say, it leaves the reader displeased if you don't follow through and may come back at you in comments/votes/future reads.

 

[Cyberpawz]

Of course you realize that most people when they say in a few months another story will be posted, that is a best case scenario.

I can push out a story via paper and pencil in less than a week, but because of real life it sometimes takes nearly 6 months for me to write it.

I never promise something I can't deliver, and I especially never place a deadline on something I don't have to.

 

[Guest]

I'm wondering-- what obligation/courtesy do we have as literotica authors to our readers when it comes to the stories? To be more specific, if we make it clear that we're writing a series and then announce that "x, y, z story" will be written within 6 months, but don't ever write/submit it, are we still okay?

Not that I'm planning on doing that, but are there any guidelines we should be following when it comes to our stories? I've just started a series (unintentionally based on reader approval) and I'm wondering what is an appropriate time frame.

And also to my chagrin, I was reading a series where the author announced a story to be written, only to find out that was 3 years ago!! Arrgh it's left me so unsatisfied...

I hate when that happens.

But this is a free site with amateur writers and volunteer editors and no contractual submission obligations.

And quite often, real life intrudes.

 

[hmmnmm]

This is one of the few drawbacks when you actually receive positive response/feedback, but they send it anonymously. It's unspeakably gratifying when it happens, since it doesn't happen too often. It would be nice to be able to write back and express appreciation that they read and something connected in a positive way, and they took the time to tell you about it. But you don't know who they are so...?
Then if you get an idea for a series and a couple anons respond favorably and they say they're waiting for more? You can't write to them and tell them a couple RL things came up, or you got stuck at a certain place, or you're torn between two or more directions the series could/should go. Or, if there's been a gap and you get back to it, you can't write to them and tell them the next episodes are pending.
I guess you just have to realize that people have other things to do, they part ways, and just hope you can meet up again, someday, and the reunion will be all the sweeter.

 

[EbonyFire77]

I guess you just have to realize that people have other things to do, they part ways, and just hope you can meet up again, someday, and the reunion will be all the sweeter.

Umm..I am VERY aware of the fact that people have other things to do-- I don't expect anyone to sit around waiting on me either. And I do follow courtesy by reading authors' profiles, where often they write how their stories are progressing/things happening in their lives-- but more so my main question has to do with whether or not, as an author (regardless of the fact that this site is free) if it's appropriate to promise something we cannot (or will not) deliver.

 

[evanslily]

...my main question has to do with whether or not, as an author (regardless of the fact that this site is free) if it's appropriate to promise something we cannot (or will not) deliver.

Ah, the moral standpoint, you mean?

Well, I guess many folks who start submitting to the site feel that they will contiinue to do so. I can't imagine that there are many who think, 'I know, I'll only post three chapters and never finish the story. Ha!'

Or maybe there are...

For my own part, real life has definitely got in the way lately, I've got an exam in 10 days time and I just can't write right now--not because I don't want to--boy, do I want to--but as sweetsubsarahh said, life intrudes.

Ten more days to go... (what's the betting my muse will then desert me?)

 

[Guest]

Ah, the moral standpoint, you mean?

Well, I guess many folks who start submitting to the site feel that they will contiinue to do so. I can't imagine that there are many who think, 'I know, I'll only post three chapters and never finish the story. Ha!'

Or maybe there are...

For my own part, real life has definitely got in the way lately, I've got an exam in 10 days time and I just can't write right now--not because I don't want to--boy, do I want to--but as sweetsubsarahh said, life intrudes.

Ten more days to go... (what's the betting my muse will then desert me?)

Good luck on your exam! I just finished a show. I did jot down an outline to a delicious story I woke up with morning that I hope I will have the energy to attack very soon.

EF, I hope no one would lead readers on in a malicious manner, promising that which they never intend to deliver.

Quite often the real life events that take us away from hobby writing are nobody's business, least of all an anonymous reader. Some writers are not comfortable placing such personal information out for all to view and offer comment or criticism.

Or even sympathy.

I stopped writing or even posting for over a year not so very long ago. Since then my output has not been what it was. (Then again my children have many activities, my hubby is a varsity football coach and I direct musicals - time is short. Anyway.) My AH friends knew what was happening and I even received a few emails from readers wondering the same. But I had grief issues and family concerns and quite frankly the posting of short story erotica on a porn site was not at the top of my list.

And readers sometimes have unrealistic expectations anyway. How many times have some of us received letters begging a sequel when we, the writers, knew that the story had reached its obvious conclusion?

You can't please everyone.

So again, I hope writers won't be malicious. And I hope readers won't take it personally where no offense is intended.

I hope I can write this fucking story on my day off. Ahem. (But the house - the mess - the disorder, the chaos - it is looming!!!!)

There's a Christmas marathon on the Cartoon Network today. My darling children just informed me of this, with great glee, I might add.

I think I shall snag another cup of coffee and go sit with them for a spell. Time enough to write porn later.

 

[CorsetLvr]

I don't feel an obligation to post on a certain time line. After all, it's not like I'm getting paid to do this. If I was, then obviously I would meet a deadline that is a condition of my employment.

However, I do feel certain other obligations as a writer that I would like to touch on. In some ways this is me venting about what I consider to be unresponsible writing by some writers. My main gripe is about stories that document inaccurate or unsafe sexual practices. I'm not even talking about condom use here. I try to imagine the 18-19 year old boy or girl, who may have little or no sexual experience, sitting there reading an erotic story and unfortunately reading the material as if it was a sex manual. Obviously a lot of what is written here is pure fantasy, but just like porn videos they may have little to do with realistic sexual enjoyment. I realize that erotica does not have any social obligation to educate our readers, but realistic portrayal of sexual practices surely wouldn't hurt. Here are a few examples.

1. Stories, usually written by men, that portray women as nothing more than sexual objects whose only goal in life is to fulfill men's perverse fantasy. These female characters are two dimensional at best. One very prolific writer comes to mind. His stories seem to portray women as only existing to offer their asses up for huge penises. This is their entire reason for being.

2. How many stories have you seen where anal sex is performed without any lube and little or no preparation. Phrases like "slamming my cock into her ass" are usually a dead give away. The funny part of this is that the woman in the story actually enjoys this. OK, guys, its your turn to show us how enjoyable anal sex under these circumstances can be. Bottoms up fellas. Don't get me wrong, I'm a pretty big fan of anal sex myself. However, a lot of women have had early, traumatic experiences with anal (myself included) and what could be enjoyable turns into something similar to rape.

3. How many times have you seen anal sex portrayed where the guy switches between a woman's ass and pussy without washing up first. That's an invitation for an infection. Again, imagine the 19 year old sitting there reading that. What impression do you think they come away with?

4. BDSM stories where that lifestyle is portrayed as lacking any form of love. Subs are dpicted almost as if they are held captive. No consideration is given to the concepts of true BDSM relationships such as power exchange, scene negotiation, safe words, or any of the other that characterize what D/s folks call "safe, sane, and consensual."


5. Swinging or group sex stories written by people who have absolutely no clue what swinging is all about. The women in them are either portrayed as cock hungry sluts or as unwilling or stupid and easily fooled into participating. As a female swinger, I find this highly insulting. I can only imagine the issues that can develop in a relationship as a result of what sort of impressions about swinging they come away from these stories. I guess that many writers can't understand that some women enjoy recreational sex and don't have to be stupid or fooled in order to enjoy it. What is really funny is that the reality is that swinging is run by women in many ways. After all, we have what the guys want, right? We find the kind of sexual empowerment in swinging that the rest of society deems fit to deny us.

Obviously, the majority of these stories are written by people who have little or no experience with the things they are writing about. I can understand writing about fantasies, but I would encourage all writers to stop for a moment and think about how what they are writing is going to be received by the reader. I'm not saying that all erotica has to be politically correct. Far from it. However, I do think some responsibility is called for.

 

[EbonyFire77]

I don't feel an obligation to post on a certain time line. After all, it's not like I'm getting paid to do this. If I was, then obviously I would meet a deadline that is a condition of my employment.

I don't expect that everyone will submit their stories when *I* see fit, but as a writer/author, it feels even unsatisfying to me to not finish a story that I start, so I also try to look at it from my readers' viewpoints as well.

I also think you brought up some pertinent issues that I hadn't thought about:

However, I do feel certain other obligations as a writer that I would like to touch on. In some ways this is me venting about what I consider to be irresponsible writing by some writers. My main gripe is about stories that document inaccurate or unsafe sexual practices...

1. Stories, usually written by men, that portray women as nothing more than sexual objects whose only goal in life is to fulfill men's perverse fantasy. These female characters are two dimensional at best.

Well...many of the nonconsent/reluctance stories are written that way. And I suppose while it's not entirely fair, many of these stories, like you said, are fantasy.

2. How many stories have you seen where anal sex is performed without any lube and little or no preparation. Phrases like "slamming my cock into her ass" are usually a dead give away. The funny part of this is that the woman in the story actually enjoys this. OK, guys, its your turn to show us how enjoyable anal sex under these circumstances can be. Bottoms up fellas. Don't get me wrong, I'm a pretty big fan of anal sex myself. However, a lot of women have had early, traumatic experiences with anal (myself included) and what could be enjoyable turns into something similar to rape.

I understand what you are saying here-- I've often come across a story where there was no lube and a guy had anal sex with the girl and apparently,it felt good-- not. But here's the thing-- many of these stories are fantasies and the fantasies of men who *wish* that's the way anal sex could be. So in order to get personal satisfaction some way, the story is written. I know that doesn't make it accurate, but it's a story.

3. How many times have you seen anal sex portrayed where the guy switches between a woman's ass and pussy without washing up first. That's an invitation for an infection. Again, imagine the 19 year old sitting there reading that. What impression do you think they come away with?

Yes, that's true-- infection can occur. *However*-- we make it clear that these are fantasy stories, which are not real events. If we are truly concerned, then we need to make it clear in our story notes that the story is a sexual fantasy, and in real life you would not want to perform the same kinds of sexual practices. And we also need to keep in mind that 18-19 year olds need to be responsible for themselves-- they are adults-- and encourage them to do the research and get reliable information on safe sex practices, instead of seeking their ideas from a erotic website. This is entertainment-- but what they do is reality.

4. BDSM stories where that lifestyle is portrayed as lacking any form of love. Subs are dpicted almost as if they are held captive. No consideration is given to the concepts of true BDSM relationships such as power exchange, scene negotiation, safe words, or any of the other that characterize what D/s folks call "safe, sane, and consensual."

I've never read any of the BDSM stories, so I'd be interested to see how this lifestyle is portrayed.

5. Swinging or group sex stories written by people who have absolutely no clue what swinging is all about. The women in them are either portrayed as cock hungry sluts or as unwilling or stupid and easily fooled into participating. As a female swinger, I find this highly insulting. I can only imagine the issues that can develop in a relationship as a result of what sort of impressions about swinging they come away from these stories.

Then I guess to retort, write stories that portray the reality of swinging. We can't make people write stories the "way it really is", but we can give our own examples.

Obviously, the majority of these stories are written by people who have little or no experience with the things they are writing about. I can understand writing about fantasies, but I would encourage all writers to stop for a moment and think about how what they are writing is going to be received by the reader. I'm not saying that all erotica has to be politically correct. Far from it. However, I do think some responsibility is called for.

But that's like asking the writers to stop and think about how delaying a promised story will be received by the reader....just kidding, I'm being touch in cheek with that.

While I agree that responsibility needs to be taken for by us as authors, so does responsibility need to be taken by the reader. For example, if I can questions about the stories I read because of something questionable, I'd make a post here in the lit board and get educated. We aren't anyone's parents and unfortunately while our readers parents may not have educated them on sexual matters, that's not our job either. If you're an adult, it's your own job.

 

[CorsetLvr]

I guess my point is that some readers obviously can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality. For better or worse, our stories, and even worse porn vids, are the closest thing that a lot of people have in the way of sex education in this, and many other countries. I'm not even talking about young adults here. I'll include older adults as well.

I'll pose the following question; does portraying sex accurately hurt the story? Does mentioning the use of lube in conjunction with an anal sex story hurt anything, for example? Does it take away from the fantasy? When did a trip to the emergency room with a bleeding ass become sexy? Somehow that part always seems to get left out of these kinds of stories.

 

[Guest]

I guess my point is that some readers obviously can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality. For better or worse, our stories, and even worse porn vids, are the closest thing that a lot of people have in the way of sex education in this, and many other countries. I'm not even talking about young adults here. I'll include older adults as well.

I'll pose the following question; does portraying sex accurately hurt the story? Does mentioning the use of lube in conjunction with an anal sex story hurt anything, for example? Does it take away from the fantasy? When did a trip to the emergency room with a bleeding ass become sexy? Somehow that part always seems to get left out of these kinds of stories.

I prefer reality in my stories but I never forget that they are, indeed, fiction. I'm certainly not a sex advice columnist. Unless I'm writing a how-to story I don't intend for my words to be taken as some sort of manual.

That being said? As a writer I wish for my readers to be able to place themselves within the story. I love the feedback that asks, "Did that really happen? Is that a true story? That felt so real!"

That feeling of realism works if the details are solid (that difficulty removing clothes, character uncertainties, the necessity of lube, etc.). Details.

But is that my mission as a writer of erotica? Is it my responsibility to keep the facts straight so a 17-year-old who is wanking by his laptop will think, "Wow - the next time I plan to have anal intercourse I'd better stock up on the silicone lube." Is it?

Nope. I just think it makes for a better story.

 

[CorsetLvr]

Nope. I just think it makes for a better story.

I can certainly agree with you there. The back button is usually what follows me starting to ask questions like "can I see myself doing that," or "can I see myself, or anyone for that matter, saying that."

Some stories just stretch so far to make the plot fit some outlandish sexual fantasy that they just get to the point of being silly.

 

[Guest]

I can certainly agree with you there. The back button is usually what follows me starting to ask questions like "can I see myself doing that," or "can I see myself, or anyone for that matter, saying that."

Some stories just stretch so far to make the plot fit some outlandish sexual fantasy that they just get to the point of being silly.

Exactly!

I can't count the number of stories I've read only to come across some outlandish position or situation. Oh - or dialogue! Ugh.

Sometimes I'll read it aloud to my husband, he'll angle his head, we'll pretend to simulate the situation or conversation - too funny.

Back click.

 

[mjl2010]

I'm wondering-- what obligation/courtesy do we have as literotica authors to our readers when it comes to the stories? To be more specific, if we make it clear that we're writing a series and then announce that "x, y, z story" will be written within 6 months, but don't ever write/submit it, are we still okay?

Not that I'm planning on doing that, but are there any guidelines we should be following when it comes to our stories? I've just started a series (unintentionally based on reader approval) and I'm wondering what is an appropriate time frame.

And also to my chagrin, I was reading a series where the author announced a story to be written, only to find out that was 3 years ago!! Arrgh it's left me so unsatisfied...

Sometimes as writers, we just move on. Considering it was my first attempt, my series honeymoon cabin did rather well. I still get requests to keep it going. But I wrote the whole thing before I sent any of it in. Now there's five parts and I'm just not interested in taking it further. Let John and Christina have the rest of their honeymoon in peace.

Despite fans, each chapter I posted had fewer and fewer views and votes. I've moved on and the remaining 70,000 words will probably never see the light of day.

Do I have a responsibility? The half dozen or so folks that continously bugged me for the remaining chapters got their wish. I did a read through on it all, fixed anything I spotted and then emailed it to them. Funny, I never heard back from any of them....

MJL

 

[Cyberpawz]

Sometimes as writers, we just move on. Considering it was my first attempt, my series honeymoon cabin did rather well. I still get requests to keep it going. But I wrote the whole thing before I sent any of it in. Now there's five parts and I'm just not interested in taking it further. Let John and Christina have the rest of their honeymoon in peace.

Despite fans, each chapter I posted had fewer and fewer views and votes. I've moved on and the remaining 70,000 words will probably never see the light of day.

Do I have a responsibility? The half dozen or so folks that continously bugged me for the remaining chapters got their wish. I did a read through on it all, fixed anything I spotted and then emailed it to them. Funny, I never heard back from any of them....

MJL

This really doesn't amaze me, I've done this a few times. It annoys people, but sometimes the want to continue leaves the author in question, and a story as good as it may be, might never be finished because the author just doesn't have the drive to do it any more.

I only got back into writing because I wanted to brush up on my skills, and in all honesty I'm ungodly rusty...

 

[mjl2010]

I don't feel an obligation to post on a certain time line. After all, it's not like I'm getting paid to do this. If I was, then obviously I would meet a deadline that is a condition of my employment.

However, I do feel certain other obligations as a writer that I would like to touch on. In some ways this is me venting about what I consider to be unresponsible writing by some writers. My main gripe is about stories that document inaccurate or unsafe sexual practices. I'm not even talking about condom use here. I try to imagine the 18-19 year old boy or girl, who may have little or no sexual experience, sitting there reading an erotic story and unfortunately reading the material as if it was a sex manual. Obviously a lot of what is written here is pure fantasy, but just like porn videos they may have little to do with realistic sexual enjoyment. I realize that erotica does not have any social obligation to educate our readers, but realistic portrayal of sexual practices surely wouldn't hurt. Here are a few examples.

1. Stories, usually written by men, that portray women as nothing more than sexual objects whose only goal in life is to fulfill men's perverse fantasy. These female characters are two dimensional at best. One very prolific writer comes to mind. His stories seem to portray women as only existing to offer their asses up for huge penises. This is their entire reason for being.

2. How many stories have you seen where anal sex is performed without any lube and little or no preparation. Phrases like "slamming my cock into her ass" are usually a dead give away. The funny part of this is that the woman in the story actually enjoys this. OK, guys, its your turn to show us how enjoyable anal sex under these circumstances can be. Bottoms up fellas. Don't get me wrong, I'm a pretty big fan of anal sex myself. However, a lot of women have had early, traumatic experiences with anal (myself included) and what could be enjoyable turns into something similar to rape.

3. How many times have you seen anal sex portrayed where the guy switches between a woman's ass and pussy without washing up first. That's an invitation for an infection. Again, imagine the 19 year old sitting there reading that. What impression do you think they come away with?

4. BDSM stories where that lifestyle is portrayed as lacking any form of love. Subs are dpicted almost as if they are held captive. No consideration is given to the concepts of true BDSM relationships such as power exchange, scene negotiation, safe words, or any of the other that characterize what D/s folks call "safe, sane, and consensual."


5. Swinging or group sex stories written by people who have absolutely no clue what swinging is all about. The women in them are either portrayed as cock hungry sluts or as unwilling or stupid and easily fooled into participating. As a female swinger, I find this highly insulting. I can only imagine the issues that can develop in a relationship as a result of what sort of impressions about swinging they come away from these stories. I guess that many writers can't understand that some women enjoy recreational sex and don't have to be stupid or fooled in order to enjoy it. What is really funny is that the reality is that swinging is run by women in many ways. After all, we have what the guys want, right? We find the kind of sexual empowerment in swinging that the rest of society deems fit to deny us.

Obviously, the majority of these stories are written by people who have little or no experience with the things they are writing about. I can understand writing about fantasies, but I would encourage all writers to stop for a moment and think about how what they are writing is going to be received by the reader. I'm not saying that all erotica has to be politically correct. Far from it. However, I do think some responsibility is called for.

Corsetlvr, there is some truth to what you say here. There is also truth to the fact that there are people who truly do love the very things you've said are unrealistic or even dangerous. Some people just don't care about those things.

There is a "How To" piece whose author is a woman. She wrote about anal sex and learning to do it. She expresses the fact that while most people do use lube and like it best that way, she prefers NOT to use lube. I'd call that responsible writing. But it is a "How To" piece. If she wrote a story about an encounter with her boyfriend and didn't use lube, is that so wrong?

There are plenty of women here on Lit who express, not just in stories but in their posts as well, that they love being treated as objects to be used, objectified and humiliated. I can point to more than one or two who believe they exist only for the sexual enjoyment of their "owners". If they write stories about their lives, are they being irresponsible?

Rape fantasies abound. Again, you can find plenty of posts, threads and stories here about women who really enjoy that. Who is to say where the fantasy ends and reality begins?

I read a story here once where a woman's breasts were severely caned and then tortured with candle flames. I was certain it was unrealistic and that no woman would actually enjoy or want such treatment. I've since learned that such is not the case, that there are actually people who do this and go back for more. Certainly not my kink, but it does happen, is consensual and apparently, enjoyable for some.

The point I'm making is that there are few boundaries that some don't find approachable and find erotic. One only needs to read stories in the fetish and BDSM categories to learn that.

Anal to Vaginal or Anal to Oral? Dangerous certainly. Off limits to most, absolutely. Do people do it anyway? You bet your ass (pardon the pun) they do. Would I? No. But people who find it erotic are going to write about it.

I have to say, as a writer I don't feel I need to be teaching some teenager, whether fourteen or nineteen what sex is supposed to be about. The ones younger than eighteen are not supposed to be here anyway. I'm sure they are, you can find all kinds of posts by them. Some have probably even written stories and have them posted here.

Consider the following with an open mind: Exchanging partners is a dangerous practice. It opens you to disease and heartbreak. If you're married, you keep your wife/husband to yourself and forsake all others. If you go exchanging partners, you're going to end up losing your wife/husband eventually. Marriage is about fidelity and love.

There are many, many people who believe this to be true. You may scoff at them because your personal lifestyle goes past that (actually I think you probably wouldn't, I've read your posts on swinging) But if they applied the same judgments you've applied to certain writing here on Lit, you'd be defending that lifestyle and the group sex and loving wives stories. Right?

Just because your personal views don't include certain behaviors doesn't mean others find it normal, exciting and acceptable.

Feeling I've ranted long enough, I'll shut up now. But I hope you see my point. Limits and boundaries are different for everyone. Anyone not able to distinguish reality from fantasy does not belong here.

MJL

 

[CorsetLvr]

There is a "How To" piece whose author is a woman. She wrote about anal sex and learning to do it. She expresses the fact that while most people do use lube and like it best that way, she prefers NOT to use lube. I'd call that responsible writing. But it is a "How To" piece. If she wrote a story about an encounter with her boyfriend and didn't use lube, is that so wrong?

OK, I'm not going to comment on the rest of your post other then to say that you took mine out of context. I would say that you might want to go back and re-read the How to story and make sure are not misquoting the author. I know the one you are referring to and she never says that she prefers not to use lube. As I recall she said she prefers to use natural lube (saliva and vaginal fluids). There is a big difference between a dry penis and one that has some slippery body juices on it.

I think you made my case for me about the importance of accuracy.

 

[mjl2010]

OK, I'm not going to comment on the rest of your post other then to say that you took mine out of context. I would say that you might want to go back and re-read the How to story and make sure are not misquoting the author. I know the one you are referring to and she never says that she prefers not to use lube. As I recall she said she prefers to use natural lube (saliva and vaginal fluids). There is a big difference between a dry penis and one that has some slippery body juices on it.

I think you made my case for me about the importance of accuracy.

I rarely forget anything I read. Yet, on your advice I went back and found the article. It is as I said; the author advises the use of lube and then at the end of the article, states that many women, including herself, enjoy anal sex without lubrication.

Read this, down to the very last paragraph.

I'm not sure what you think I took out of context. The entire point of my post is that what is off limits for some, is right up someone else's alley and some of the things you wrote about as being unrealistic, are as real and enjoyed by as many as the stories there are written about them.

edited to add: I will agree, there are people writing about things that they have no clue about.

MJL

 

[CorsetLvr]

I rarely forget anything I read. Yet, on your advice I went back and found the article. It is as I said; the author advises the use of lube and then at the end of the article, states that many women, including herself, enjoy anal sex without lubrication.

OK, point conceded, but I think that was taken out of context or perhaps she did not fully explain herself. I sincerely doubt that she meant absolutely no lubrication. Like I said earlier, I'm sure she just meant no artificial lube. I have never met any woman that enjoy dry anal sex. It is beyond the scope of my comprehension.

I said in my original post that I was not referring to BDSM stories. Obviously, erotic pain is not something most people enjoy. However, within the realm of the BDSM genre it is clear to me that most of the stories there are written by wannabe's or other folks that have no clue as to what a BDSM scene or relationship is all about.

I think the nonconsent category is unique in and of itself. It is a category that is entirely based on fantasy. Admittedly a lot of women have "being taken" fantasies. The whole romance novel genre is saturated with these images. However, I don't know of a single woman that would like that fantasy to move into real life. The problem with these stories, at least to my way of thinking, is that they send a messsage that has been perpetuated in the male mythos for an eternity. That being that women just need a little force to make them break through their inhibitions and then enjoy sex. Of course this is entirely based on a total cave man mentality and the false perception that all women are just sluts at heart. That once you force a woman into sex she will just lay back and enjoy it. Lit gets around the whole rape issue by calling it "nonconsent," which to my way of thinking is nothing more than a euphemism. Is it a fantasy? Yes, of course. Do all readers see it as pure fantasy? Is anyone really that naive? Have you read a newspaper lately?

 

[Candlelight062]

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

I guess my point is that some readers obviously can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality. For better or worse, our stories, and even worse porn vids, are the closest thing that a lot of people have in the way of sex education in this, and many other countries. I'm not even talking about young adults here. I'll include older adults as well.

I'll pose the following question; does portraying sex accurately hurt the story? Does mentioning the use of lube in conjunction with an anal sex story hurt anything, for example? Does it take away from the fantasy? When did a trip to the emergency room with a bleeding ass become sexy? Somehow that part always seems to get left out of these kinds of stories.

Although we write fantasy stories most of the time, let's not forget there are very young readers here as well. My romance story (more will be forthcoming) attract young women, mostly college gals. Although fiction I want to make sure it's as close to reality as possible, like educating that precum can make a gal pregnant. You'd be surprised how many people don't know that.

It's all about finding the balance to keeping it hot, and keeping it real even if it's fiction. A little education can go a long way.

Unbelievable.

 

[sr71plt]

I've just been sitting and watching this string because it irritates me a bit--writers trying to tailor the site to match what they personally approve of and that turns them on personally. This is a porn site catering to a broad range of interests and turnons. The most popular topics covered here are ones that, frankly, curl my toes. I just stay away from them. As should any other writer/reader who doesn't like those areas. And if they disturb you too much, write/read on some other site.

Enough of the attempt to redecorate/censure/limit to your personal tastes. Readers/writers here are forewarned--those who own and maintain the site seem perfectly capable of controlling what's on the site and can take responsibility for who reads on the site.

 

[mjl2010]

I've just been sitting and watching this string because it irritates me a bit--writers trying to tailor the site to match what they personally approve of and that turns them on personally. This is a porn site catering to a broad range of interests and turnons. The most popular topics covered here are ones that, frankly, curl my toes. I just stay away from them. As should any other writer/reader who doesn't like those areas. And if they disturb you too much, write/read on some other site.

Enough of the attempt to redecorate/censure/limit to your personal tastes. Readers/writers here are forewarned--those who own and maintain the site seem perfectly capable of controlling what's on the site and can take responsibility for who reads on the site.

Thank you.

MJL

 

[Cyberpawz]

I've just been sitting and watching this string because it irritates me a bit--writers trying to tailor the site to match what they personally approve of and that turns them on personally. This is a porn site catering to a broad range of interests and turnons. The most popular topics covered here are ones that, frankly, curl my toes. I just stay away from them. As should any other writer/reader who doesn't like those areas. And if they disturb you too much, write/read on some other site.

Enough of the attempt to redecorate/censure/limit to your personal tastes. Readers/writers here are forewarned--those who own and maintain the site seem perfectly capable of controlling what's on the site and can take responsibility for who reads on the site.

I'm not censoring at all, I'm stating my likes and dislikes, people can agree with me or not, and I personally don't care... I'm just stating my opinion. If I wanted to make this site the way I deemed fit then I'd be the owner... but since I'm not I don't care...

Anyway, people here have the right to either have their stuff published here or not... they can either not submit their stuff for publication, or they can... that all that matters, if people have morals or issues against things that are published here, and yet publish things here they have no foot to stand upon.

 

[sr71plt]

I'm not censoring at all, I'm stating my likes and dislikes, people can agree with me or not, and I personally don't care... I'm just stating my opinion. If I wanted to make this site the way I deemed fit then I'd be the owner... but since I'm not I don't care...

Anyway, people here have the right to either have their stuff published here or not... they can either not submit their stuff for publication, or they can... that all that matters, if people have morals or issues against things that are published here, and yet publish things here they have no foot to stand upon.

Ok, I agree you're not in a position to be censoring. Certianly highly judgmental, though--which is a form of telling us to do it your way and to your tastes. I'll take this as your problem to work out on your own.

Sounds like you have some self-guilt about reading/writing/enjoying porn. Maybe you've come to the wrong site.