Armed forces of China and the U.S. in disaster rescue operation

[gxnn]

Ten days ago, the superpowerful typhoon Hati hit China's Macao Special Administrative Region, and at the request of the local government, the Peopel's Liberation Army which station in Macao help local people a lot in their cleaning efforts and get the applause from them.

But in the now Harvey hurricane, there seems no US army involved in the rescue? China's army members are mostly in their compulsory service, is it that US army soldiers are paid workers, who will not take extra works if the salary or bonus or working condition is not to their satisfaction?

 

[phrodeau]

The COE opened the dams to flood Buffalo Bayou.

 

[milehighcityman]

Ten days ago, the superpowerful typhoon Hati hit China's Macao Special Administrative Region, and at the request of the local government, the Peopel's Liberation Army which station in Macao help local people a lot in their cleaning efforts and get the applause from them.

But in the now Harvey hurricane, there seems no US army involved in the rescue? China's army members are mostly in their compulsory service, is it that US army soldiers are paid workers, who will not take extra works if the salary or bonus or working condition is not to their satisfaction?

The US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corp, along with the Coast Guard are all heavily involved in rescue and relief efforts. An additional 30,000 Guardsmen are preparing to be sent in as well. Why on Earth were you under the impression the U.S. military wasn't involved with Hurricane Harvey?

 

[sharingfantasies]

The US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corp, along with the Coast Guard are all heavily involved in rescue and relief efforts. An additional 30,000 Guardsmen are preparing to be sent in as well. Why on Earth were you under the impression the U.S. military wasn't involved with Hurricane Harvey?

The National Guard has been boots on the ground since the beginning, but more are coming from around the country. Not only that, but Nato has sent in some of their special emergency forces. Mexico has also offered to send in help, but hasn't heard back from the US government to get permission to help. Non-military people are coming from all over to help with clean up.


Edited: Mexico is sending supplies and people to help. They have permission to cross the border.

 

[gxnn]

The US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corp, along with the Coast Guard are all heavily involved in rescue and relief efforts. An additional 30,000 Guardsmen are preparing to be sent in as well. Why on Earth were you under the impression the U.S. military wasn't involved with Hurricane Harvey?

Sorry, but I did not want to make offense. Because in the English listening comprehension materials used by college students in China, the despaired voice of a black woman was heard clearly "Please help us!" as if she was about to die in the flood. It turned out that she was asking help from President Bush to send troops in to help her out of Hurricane Catrina but there seemed no response.

And American troops give us the impression that they have enough money to tour the world doing this and that, sometimes finding time to rape one of two Japanese girls for a break...but when it comes to domestic problem, they are not so quick in response.

But I do respect those who helped us fight Japanese during World War II, they will be our permanent friends and live for ever in our mind.

 

[sr71plt]

And American troops give us the impression that they have enough money to tour the world doing this and that, sometimes finding time to rape one of two Japanese girls for a break...but when it comes to domestic problem, they are not so quick in response.

You've gotten the wrong impression on that, then (other than the occasional rape in foreign lands, which is pretty much universal, not particularly an American trait). If there's a large disaster in the United States, Armed forces folks are there, pitching in.

A bit of research on these issues might save you same embarrassment in future "impressioning" in print.

 

[JackLuis]

gxnn, don't feel like we Americans generally are as impolite as the Literoticans here are. Continue to bring your special perspective to the forum, just don't expect that it will meet fawning acceptance. Almost anything you say will be jeered at and criticized, that is just the Literotican way.

 

[sr71plt]

Except that gxnn brought an uninformed, challenging, and insulting perspective to the issue.

 

[oggbashan]

We still remember and are grateful for this American Serviceman:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-21269277

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL7TULVOB2I

The George Medal is the equivalent of the Victoria Cross (only awarded for valour in the face of the enemy) and is for valour not on a battlefield.

 

[JackLuis]

Except that gxnn brought an uninformed, challenging, and insulting perspective to the issue.

Thank you for making my point that we are not all polite to the uninformed who are effected by propaganda.

 

[jaF0]

Sorry, but I did not want to make offense. Because in the English listening comprehension materials used by college students in China, the despaired voice of a black woman was heard clearly "Please help us!" as if she was about to die in the flood. It turned out that she was asking help from President Bush to send troops in to help her out of Hurricane Catrina but there seemed no response.

And American troops give us the impression that they have enough money to tour the world doing this and that, sometimes finding time to rape one of two Japanese girls for a break...but when it comes to domestic problem, they are not so quick in response.

The Chinese media is highly censored and biased. Residents who only get news from Chinese sources rarely get the whole story.

 

[sr71plt]

Thank you for making my point that we are not all polite to the uninformed who are effected by propaganda.

The call for politeness starts with an OP assertion, and I think you are out of line on who to hold accountable for what. (Also, you might check the difference between "effected" and "affected." )

 

[JackLuis]

The call for politeness starts with an OP assertion, and I think you are out of line on who to hold accountable for what. (Also, you might check the difference between "effected" and "affected." )

Yeah I always get confused by that.

However it still is undiplomatic to jump on a foreigner for not understanding the differences in cultures. I don't suppose you'll change though.

 

[sr71plt]

Yeah I always get confused by that.

However it still is undiplomatic to jump on a foreigner for not understanding the differences in cultures. I don't suppose you'll change though.

I laughed. I've spent nearly half my life in diplomatic missions abroad. Diplomacy isn't about letting others walk all over you. This exchange went south from the inception, and everyone is responsible for what they assert. Nationality doesn't have anything to do with that. You win no prizes here on sensitivity.

 

[gxnn]

Thank you for the information.
As you know, first we have very limited access to news or information that is useful to us easily due to some reasons which you know better than I do.
Second, I was just telling my feeling, but of course, if there were mistakes based on the wrong info, it is another matter.
Armed forces are not police, perhaps, but in the face of bid disaster, they should not stay as nothing happening. As far as I know, in the 911 emergency rescue, there were no military, it is a regret to me because military could have done better under such circumstances.

 

[phrodeau]

For an idea of what Texans think about US military action in their state, do some research on "Jade Helm 15."

 

[Hypoxia]

For an idea of what Texans think about US military action in their state, do some research on "Jade Helm 15."

And they really go apeshit when they think of all the foreign aircrews and combat teams occupying El Paso and Las Cruces. NATO training, they call it. Ha. The black helicopters are just over the horizon.

 

[sharingfantasies]

I am quite sure that those people being assisted by US and NATO forces did not complain about the help.

 

[gxnn]

Jade Helm 15 was very horrible, to some point.
Martial Law, it is so familiar with us back in the late 1980s.
But with 1,200 troops, I don't think it is possible to enforce Martial Law, if it was in China, they would have been killed by stones from the local people before being placed to their right position. Perhaps you could find the picture of a lone guy who stood in front of a tank in Beijing, how brave was that guy!
I think both Chinese and American armies should learn from each other and help save the world. And Japan an evil country that should not be made friends with by responsible countries like the US, so the US should cut the ties with it, because it hasn't made any sincere confession and correction for its wrongdoing as Germans and Italians did for World War II.

 

[Beco]

Ten days ago, the superpowerful typhoon Hati hit China's Macao Special Administrative Region, and at the request of the local government, the Peopel's Liberation Army which station in Macao help local people a lot in their cleaning efforts and get the applause from them.

But in the now Harvey hurricane, there seems no US army involved in the rescue? China's army members are mostly in their compulsory service, is it that US army soldiers are paid workers, who will not take extra works if the salary or bonus or working condition is not to their satisfaction?

“There is big money in disasters,” New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said recently at a conference of mayors. “Huge money." msnbc.com
updated 5/31/2006 8:30:05 PM ET

 

[gxnn]

Actually there is corruption in the army of both China and the US.
Chinese army is ruled under the guidance that "It is the Communist Party that commands the gun", so they are powerful in society. Before Xi's rule, military has become a melting pot of all interests, with soldiers having in their mind how to get promotion by all means only, which caused low battling capacity. A recent survey also found that most of the soldiers of Chinese play the hottest online game of "Honor of the King".Vehicles of military can travel on all roads without paying toll and being checked, so some people used them or disguised their own trucks as the ones of military to do illegal business.
And the quality of individual army men is also low. I have a neighbor who is an officer and often asks his men to pick him up with the jeep of the military. And the driver even has this car parked when waiting for his boss, blocking the main entrance of the public residential campus (we do not live in the US-style houses) making great troubles to residents. But they dare not complain.

 

[sharingfantasies]

Lots of US and Nato groups heading towards Florida and the islands.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/marines-and-special-forces-declare-war-on-hurricane-irma

 

[sr71plt]

Actually there is corruption in the army of both China and the US.

Why do you keep making declarations about the United States when you clearly know nothing about the United States?