Arizona: Bye-bye teachers with accents

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Arizona Expands Its Discrimination: Teachers With Heavy Accents Can’t Teach English, Ethnic Studies Are Banned

Arizona’s supporters of the state’s draconian new immigration law insist that it has nothing to do with race and isn’t meant to discriminate against certain ethnic communities. Their claims are undermined, however, by what else the state government is trying to do to target recent immigrants.

Today, the Wall Street Journal reports that the Arizona Department of Education “recently began telling school districts that teachers whose spoken English it deems to be heavily accented or ungrammatical must be removed from classes for students still learning English”:

State education officials say the move is intended to ensure that students with limited English have teachers who speak the language flawlessly. But some school principals and administrators say the department is imposing arbitrary fluency standards that could undermine students by thinning the ranks of experienced educators. [...]

“This is just one more indication of the incredible anti-immigrant sentiment in the state,” said Bruce Merrill, a professor emeritus at Arizona State University who conducts public-opinion research.

But many schools in the state still have a significant number of teachers who are native Spanish speakers. At one school, state auditors complained that teachers pronounced “words such as violet as ‘biolet,’ think as ‘tink’ and swallow the ending sounds of words, as they sometimes do in Spanish.” The principal at that school acknowledged that teachers “should speak grammatically correct English” but said they shouldn’t be punished for having an accent.

Teachers that aren’t up to par “may take classes or other steps to improve their English,” and if they still aren’t fluent enough for the state, they will be fired or reassigned.

Adding insult to injury, the Arizona legislature passed a bill yesterday outlawing ethnic studies programs:

HB 2281 would make it illegal for a school district to have any courses or classes that promote the overthrow of the U.S. government, are designed primarily for students of a particular ethnic group or advocate ethnic solidarity “instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals.”

It also would ban classes that “promote resentment toward a race or class of people.”

The measure is directed at the Tuscon Unified School District’s popular Mexican-American studies department, which school officials say provides only “historical information” — not “ethnic chauvanism” as the state school superintendent has alleged. One state lawmaker tried to show how ridiculous the legislation is by proposing that schools be barred from teaching about 9/11 because it would result in hatred toward Arab-Americans; the measure failed.
 
Arizona has apparently been subjected to anomalous time travel. The entire state have traveled backward in time to 1963.
 
Arizona needs to be taken out back to the woodshed. This shit is getting out of hand.
 
Most Americans have funny accents.

Does this mean no more teachers in the south?
 
I don't think that I've ever met an American that speaks proper English.
 
What's this world coming to? Expecting teachers to speak properly?
Next thing you know, those crazies in Arizona will demand that math teachers know how to add.
 
Reminds me of WWII Germany. Show me your papers.

America used to be a "melting pot". What has happened?
 
What's this world coming to? Expecting teachers to speak properly?
Next thing you know, those crazies in Arizona will demand that math teachers know how to add.

Yeah, someone can't possibly know English if they have a "funny" accent. :rolleyes:
 
Between this, the immigration law, the birther bill, and the "parents rights" bill I just want to cry. It's like we're screaming into a hole in the ground.
 
Reminds me of WWII Germany. Show me your papers.

America used to be a "melting pot". What has happened?

Would you care to be more pacific about why "biolet" and "tink" are fine in the classroom?
 
Would you care to be more pacific about why "biolet" and "tink" are fine in the classroom?

Surely you don't think what is going on in Arizona now has anything to do with that specific situation, do you?
 
Surely you don't think what is going on in Arizona now has anything to do with that specific situation, do you?

Well, I happen to live in Arizona and my daughter happens to teach ELL students. She doesn't say "biolet" and she doesn't say "tink" and her students show remarkable progress from the start of the year to the end.
The immigration bill that Brewer signed last week (nice lady, I've met her, but she's not conservative enough for me) has been bubbling around in previous legislative sessions. This one got a boost when a rancher was murdered several weeks ago while mending fence on his spread near the border.
Then there are the constant drop house raids, the number of illegals in the jails, the kidnappings - plus constant reminders that the state budget must be cut and that illegals cost Arizona $1 billion annually.
I'm skeptical of that claim, BTW.
Then there are Mexican soldiers in Arizona, drug runners in uniform, the violence in Mexico that many feel will inevitably spill over to our side. And have you checked how Mexico treats illegals?
 
Would you care to be more pacific about why "biolet" and "tink" are fine in the classroom?

Don't tell me, Ham...some elderly nationalized Bosnian lady taught you how to spell specific way back in grade school, didn't she?

Oh well...she probably looked White American enough, huh? Better her teachin' you than Mrs. Guadalupe, eh?
 
My Parents live there, I go there every year. You are attempting to portray all immigrants as blood thirsty criminals. Tis not the case. Certainly some are bad, but most are not. Remember, the only native people here in the USA are the American Indians.


Well, I happen to live in Arizona and my daughter happens to teach ELL students. She doesn't say "biolet" and she doesn't say "tink" and her students show remarkable progress from the start of the year to the end.
The immigration bill that Brewer signed last week (nice lady, I've met her, but she's not conservative enough for me) has been bubbling around in previous legislative sessions. This one got a boost when a rancher was murdered several weeks ago while mending fence on his spread near the border.
Then there are the constant drop house raids, the number of illegals in the jails, the kidnappings - plus constant reminders that the state budget must be cut and that illegals cost Arizona $1 billion annually.
I'm skeptical of that claim, BTW.
Then there are Mexican soldiers in Arizona, drug runners in uniform, the violence in Mexico that many feel will inevitably spill over to our side. And have you checked how Mexico treats illegals?
 
Don't tell me, Ham...some elderly nationalized Bosnian lady taught you how to spell specific way back in grade school, didn't she?

Oh well...she probably looked White American enough, huh? Better her teachin' you than Mrs. Guadalupe, eh?

I was tinking the thorousity of your reading would catch that.
BTW, the first person I heard say "pacific" instead of "specific" was a full bird Army colonel. One of my co-workers say "ambliance" instead of "ambulance."
 
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My Parents live there, I go there every year. You are attempting to portray all immigrants as blood thirsty criminals. Tis not the case. Certainly some are bad, but most are not. Remember, the only native people here in the USA are the American Indians.

I'm not talking about legal immigrants. All illegal immigrants are criminals, some much worse than others.
 
An Englishman's way of speaking absolutely classifies him,
The moment he talks he makes some other
Englishman despise him.
One common language I'm afraid we'll never get.
Oh, why can't the English learn to set
A good example to people whose
English is painful to your ears?
The Scotch and the Irish leave you close to tears.
There even are places where English completely disappears.
In America, they haven't used it for years.

----Alan Jay Lerner
 
Fuck anyone here illegally. That goes for canadians too. More so for the canadians. You drive too slow and congest my streets. Go home already, winter is over.
 
Of course, the outrageous thing about this is that the libs have comes to expect discrimination based on race and sex...





HOW DARE ARIZONA NOT DRINK THE KOOLAID!

Ask not, what is the content of hour character, but what is the color of your skin!

OR

Is it the part where the curriculum says you can't teach hate of America...

;) ;)
 
I remember my first grade teacher. He pronounced you as jou, chue, or jew. After a few days of this, I finally asked my mother,"Mom. Why does our teacher think everyone is Jewish?"
 
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