Are you allowed...

[nymphochristy]

Are you allowed to write about stories that happened when you were underage?

For example, the first time I had sex was with my teacher, when I was 16. Am I allowed to write about it, or is that child porn?

 

[KillerMuffin]

You can write about anything you want to. There is no law that says you can't.

You just can't get them published at Literotica. The minimum age for persons in sexual situations at Literotica is 18.

 

[nymphochristy]

Alright, thanks.

 

[Quasimodem]

Alternately,

You could explain that you are so dumb that you failed a flock of times, and were nineteen years old by the time you reached Grade Ten.

Maybe you could get away with that

 

[KillerMuffin]

Most people just advance the time of the event to the last few months of high school where the student can feasibly be 18 years old.

 

[MNGuy]

I've written stuff that happens when people are underage. For example, I wrote about little Billy playing trucks and house with little Suzy Q down the street. But then, all the sex stuff happens when both Billy, now Bill, and Suzy, now Sue, meet when they are all grown up. Anything underage has to be non-sexual for Lit.

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

You could explain that you are so dumb that you failed a flock of times, and were nineteen years old by the time you reached Grade Ten. Quasi

How'd you get a copy of my H/S transcript?

Rumple "the scholar" Foreskin

 

[FlyontheWall99]

You realize that you can get away with no age mention at all, just say that the persons involved were young or some such thing, it leaves it to the readers imagination and doesn't offend the 18+ rules of Literotica ......

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Here's 2 way I've found to beat the rule:

(1) Girl falls into an Antarctic ice cravass when she's 16 or whatever years old and goes into suspended animation. They pull her out 14 years later and after she revives, she's chronologically 30 years old; biologically she's still 16 (or whatever).

(2) Girl is captured by a flying saucer when she's 16 or whatever. Saucer leaves earth at 95% the speed of light, flies around for 14 earth years, and when she gets home she's 30 earth years old, but only a little more than 16 in flying saucer years.

So if you're looking for a way to sneak underage people into a story involved either (1) an Antarctic ice crevass or (2) flying saucers, you might consider these options.

Honestly, I'm not big on underage stories myself, but I'd like to try one of these gimmicks just to see what would happen.


---dr.M.

 

[gauchecritic]

Girl falls into an Antarctic ice cravass when she's 16 or whatever years old and goes into suspended animation. They pull her out 14 years later and after she revives, she's chronologically 30 years old; biologically she's still 16 (or whatever).

(---dr.M.

That won't work doc. Chronology is a function of biology or vice versa (preferably vice).

Gauche

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Another option could be based off the way they operated schools back home. You left K and entered first grade when you were a set age. If your B-day fell after the first day of the new school year and you weren't six or whatever when the school year started then you ended up being older than your classmates when you started the next year.

The private schools didn't care about your age, only where placement tests put you. Generally the public schools were a full year or two behind the private ones. Long set up but if you were a late baby and transfered out of public schools you could easily find yourself dating age while the rest of your classmates still though barbie was cool.

 

[Barnaby]

My Interview Experience

The Interview Project Part Three-Meg's Story I had some problems with this 3 part project because of underage activities. Naively, I assumed that since it was real and more journalistic, this would not be an issue. Parts two and three were rejected and had to be re-edited to eliminate age references where any sexual activity was involved. Even then, the LITmasters behind the scenes apparently debated the situation long and hard as it took a total of two weeks from the initial submission before this morning's final approval on part three.(see link above) Despite the tittilating subject matter, I intended these to be somewhat serious pieces and they have been very highly rated. I edited out references only, not content so I would have to say that the best way to skirt the issue of age where reality is involved is to simply not mention the concept of age at all if it's an issue.

 

[Chicklet]

Are you allowed to write about stories that happened when you were underage?

For example, the first time I had sex was with my teacher, when I was 16. Am I allowed to write about it, or is that child porn?

This is a touchy subject here, especially since in most countries it isn't considered underage to have sex when you're 16. Literotica has the underage policy and we try to stick to it, but of course there are ways of expanding the truth.

I wrote a story about something that happened to me when I was much younger, but I just didn't mention my age or anything that would indicate I was underage.

Keep your stories real if you want, just don't mention that it's your 10th grade teacher. She/he could have been your senior year teacher for all anyone knows = )

Chicklet

 

[Icingsugar]

A question though.

When involving characters of youth, how specific should one be about their actual days on the planet? I mean, it really comes down to one day jailbat, the next day perfectly doable.

If a character is of nondescript age and youthful looks he/she could be anything from 15 to 25. If young age really is that nessecary, can you gracefully avoid the question and let the reader have ther own kinks intepreted into it?

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

Icingsugar,

If in doubt, PM Laurel. To the best of my knowledge, this isn't an editorial or personal issue with her, just strictly a legal one.

IMHO, if the exact age of a character in a sex scene is so important it must be mentioned and if that age is under 18, don't even bother submitting the story to Literotica. One common dodge is to make the character a h/s senior and not mention a precise age.

Rumple Foreskin

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Here's 2 way I've found to beat the rule:

(1) Girl falls into an Antarctic ice cravass when she's 16 or whatever years old and goes into suspended animation. They pull her out 14 years later and after she revives, she's chronologically 30 years old; biologically she's still 16 (or whatever).

(2) Girl is captured by a flying saucer when she's 16 or whatever. Saucer leaves earth at 95% the speed of light, flies around for 14 earth years, and when she gets home she's 30 earth years old, but only a little more than 16 in flying saucer years.

LOL that's a good one. Too bad that can't be woven in somewhere into the Lit rules. (Of course most readers might not get the humor.)

 

[hiddenself]

Icingsugar,

If in doubt, PM Laurel. To the best of my knowledge, this isn't an editorial or personal issue with her, just strictly a legal one.

In that, you're wrong. It's exactly the opposite: a personal taste issue, NOT a legal issue.

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

In that, you're wrong. It's exactly the opposite: a personal taste issue, NOT a legal issue.

Well, you may or may not be right, but you are positive. Just out of curiosity, what's your source authority? RF

 

[Alex De Kok]

In that, you're wrong. It's exactly the opposite: a personal taste issue, NOT a legal issue.

Extract from Submission Guidelines for writers on the site:

3. No sexual activity involving bestiality (you can write stories about supernatural beasts like ghosts, unicorns, werewolves, etc.) or underage persons will be considered. For the purposes of this site, the minimum legal age is 18.

Sounds like a legal issue to me, although the phrasing For the purposes of this site is interesting. Doesn't bother me, I'm happy with 18 minimum.

Alex

 

[KillerMuffin]

In that, you're wrong. It's exactly the opposite: a personal taste issue, NOT a legal issue.

Actually, in that you're wrong. The age was chosen specifically to send governmentally censorious eyes elsewhere during Reno and COPPA. Now, it doesn't actually matter. If it's not in the Bible or covered by a credit card, Ashcroft is doing his best to shut it down.

I'm willing to bet that she'd object to content that's basically a pedophile preying on an innocent, but I do know that she's not against teenaged sex portrayals. What she's against is getting shut down.

Legally speaking, a 'Net pornster's life is very, very shaky with Ashcroft in even though COPPA is gone.

 

[hiddenself]

Actually, in that you're wrong. The age was chosen specifically to send governmentally censorious eyes elsewhere during Reno and COPPA.

Laurel herself had stated otherwise; she had explicitly said in a post that it was not because of legal necessity (there is none--all the past efforts have been struck down by the US Supreme Court), but because she personally found underage sex distasteful. And it was you who had pointed out the actual link a few months back! What gives?

 

[KillerMuffin]

Unfortunately, COPPA's backpedal doesn't seem to have effected Ashcroft's plans any. He is already prosecuting webmasters for obscenity crimes. It's pretty safe to say that if Bush is re-elected and Ashcroft is kept in, you can kiss free 'Net porn in America goodbye. And that is a legal reason. COPPA started it and Ashcroft keeps it going.

Laurel doesn't want to read stories with children in them. She's gray on the teenagers because she's not stupid. She knows teenagers have sex. The difference between an 18 year old and a 17 year old or 16 are minimal both physically and mentally. The reason she chose 18 instead of 15, 16, or 17 (which are arguably not children), is because that's the age of consent where she lives. This is a legal reason, not a personal one. COPPA (when the site was started), Ashcroft (now) et al are more likely to overlook stories about adults than stories about teenagers.

I don't remember the thread you mention well enough to quote it or find it so it's impossible for me to respond to that thread. And as always, it's just me repeating what I've heard recently and not her doing it.

 

[Angel]

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58591&highlight=underage

Hi all! First off, fiction involving underage characters is not illegal - nor, IMHO, should it or any other fiction be illegal. Secondly, there are no bestiality stories on Literotica - not out of any moral judgment on our part. Thirdly, our underage rule is not a moral judgment nor is it born out of the illegality of underage sex. I personally would not feel comfortable publishing erotic stories involving young children. Thus, an line had to be drawn. We drew it at the legal age of consent in our neck of the woods - 18 years of age. Had we drawn it at 16, those who live in areas where 14 or 12 is the age of consent would find that restrictive.

We do believe in freedom of speech - and that freedom includes our right as a privately-owned site to decide our own rules. There are sites that will not accept incest stories. Though we do accept such stories, I respect every webmaster's right to make decisions - for any reason - about which content they choose to accept and exclude. As WH said, there are many sites on the web that will publish any stories which do not meet our age limit. This rule is not an indictment of such stories, nor of authors who write them or sites which publish them.

 

[hiddenself]

And this one as well (took me hours to track it down):

https://forum.literotica.com/showth...&perpage=25&highlight=child porn&pagenumber=3

It has nothing to do with incitement to action. It has to do with personal tastes. I don't want to read stories involving young children. They offend me - not because I think they're harmful, but because I think they're distasteful. It being a privately run site, we can make up whatever rules we deem fit. We also don't allow stories under 750 words. (Not for the same reasons, of course. )

Unless you have something more recent from the horse's mouth KM? But it would be problematic to argue on the basis of possible future law that could potentially pass and subsequent potential proscecution etc etc. Fact is there is NO legal issue with this (and Laurel recognizes that in her statements).

 

[Angel]

My point was that she said she finds sex with YOUNG CHILDREN distasteful.

Teenagers are a different matter - and she said that she specifically chose 18 as a cut off just because it's what's legal here