Are you a pillow princess?
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Desdemona
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It almost sounds like the start of a 12 step group.
Hello, my name is ____________ and I'm a pillow princess.
Sorry, WD, couldn't resist. Carry on with your thread.
To answer your question, I don't think I am. However, perhaps I need the objective evaluation of an experienced Dom/me to know for sure.
Is there a cure for this malady if one is diagnosed?
Hello, my name is ____________ and I'm a pillow princess.
Sorry, WD, couldn't resist. Carry on with your thread.
To answer your question, I don't think I am. However, perhaps I need the objective evaluation of an experienced Dom/me to know for sure.
Is there a cure for this malady if one is diagnosed?
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Comforter Kings & Pillow Princesses
Anyone who has taken the time to visit Ms. Worthy's web site knows that she has produced an impressive body of research, fact and opinion on BDSM sexuality.
Her use of the term "Pillow Princess" was the first time I've seen it.....but it's not far from the term "Princess", one I've used (as do many) to describe high-maintenance, selfish, vocal, two-faced, self-absorbed women of all stripes....so the drift is, for me, easily caught.
It is a commonly held believe that dogs with the biggest bark often have the softest bite.....in this respect, I've found that those who crow and brag about their needs, decades of experiences and expertise in the bdsm sack are most often the dullest of partners, with emotional baggage galore. In a word, trouble.
Online is now a safe haven for that sort of person, male or female....pillow princesses meeting comforter kings, sad to say.
Anonymous boards allow for the creation of a fantasy persona to be used by the unhappily married, the broken, and people who generally have trouble forming meaningful interactions and relationships IRL.
Cym & lilfrk made quick, uninformed fun of my use of the internet term "pron" a few days ago, and also lambasted Marquis for his sharing of how he and his girlfriend enjoy Max Hardcore as bdsm-flavoured kink-fuel in their lives. Easy evidence that their world-view outside the Forum's fluffy pillows is indeed quite limited and narrow of scope.
The fact is that in the past 10-15 years since the Internet became increasingly popular and mainstream, the number of open, honest, accessible freaks has diminished significantly online as a percentage of total users.
Ten years ago, it was relatively easy to meet someone....really meet them...with compatible BDSM interests online.
Now, with all the niche fantasy-lands (this included) that are set up to mimmick IRL contact, the raw and relative numbers of poseurs and self-annointed experts has increased to the point where you really cant trust or believe in much of anything you hear here.
There are now, in fact, far more women interested in forthright discussion of kink, bdsm and in moving to skin-to-skin meetings on so-called vanilla personals sites than you'd ever see here in a month of full moons.
Cheers;
Lance
Anyone who has taken the time to visit Ms. Worthy's web site knows that she has produced an impressive body of research, fact and opinion on BDSM sexuality.
Her use of the term "Pillow Princess" was the first time I've seen it.....but it's not far from the term "Princess", one I've used (as do many) to describe high-maintenance, selfish, vocal, two-faced, self-absorbed women of all stripes....so the drift is, for me, easily caught.
It is a commonly held believe that dogs with the biggest bark often have the softest bite.....in this respect, I've found that those who crow and brag about their needs, decades of experiences and expertise in the bdsm sack are most often the dullest of partners, with emotional baggage galore. In a word, trouble.
Online is now a safe haven for that sort of person, male or female....pillow princesses meeting comforter kings, sad to say.
Anonymous boards allow for the creation of a fantasy persona to be used by the unhappily married, the broken, and people who generally have trouble forming meaningful interactions and relationships IRL.
Cym & lilfrk made quick, uninformed fun of my use of the internet term "pron" a few days ago, and also lambasted Marquis for his sharing of how he and his girlfriend enjoy Max Hardcore as bdsm-flavoured kink-fuel in their lives. Easy evidence that their world-view outside the Forum's fluffy pillows is indeed quite limited and narrow of scope.
The fact is that in the past 10-15 years since the Internet became increasingly popular and mainstream, the number of open, honest, accessible freaks has diminished significantly online as a percentage of total users.
Ten years ago, it was relatively easy to meet someone....really meet them...with compatible BDSM interests online.
Now, with all the niche fantasy-lands (this included) that are set up to mimmick IRL contact, the raw and relative numbers of poseurs and self-annointed experts has increased to the point where you really cant trust or believe in much of anything you hear here.
There are now, in fact, far more women interested in forthright discussion of kink, bdsm and in moving to skin-to-skin meetings on so-called vanilla personals sites than you'd ever see here in a month of full moons.
Cheers;
Lance
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Piggybacking
on Lance's comments. From my point of view, I have to agree with a lot of what Lance says. I date vanillas, but Ifind the ones I date are not really vanilla at all. They just have notput aname to their kink. Since I am not a BDSM elitest, I can deal wth them as individuals to the mutual benefit of us both.
As a Domme who only has male subs, I find that the dynamic is a lot different. There are plenty of "do me subs" or "pillow princes", if I can steal the phrase. But there are many earnest male subs who are having a hard time finding Dommes because many female dominants do not know how to exhibit their dominance in ways that provide a quality sub the support he needs to grow in the lifestyle.
Eb <The Opinionated One>
on Lance's comments. From my point of view, I have to agree with a lot of what Lance says. I date vanillas, but Ifind the ones I date are not really vanilla at all. They just have notput aname to their kink. Since I am not a BDSM elitest, I can deal wth them as individuals to the mutual benefit of us both.
As a Domme who only has male subs, I find that the dynamic is a lot different. There are plenty of "do me subs" or "pillow princes", if I can steal the phrase. But there are many earnest male subs who are having a hard time finding Dommes because many female dominants do not know how to exhibit their dominance in ways that provide a quality sub the support he needs to grow in the lifestyle.
Eb <The Opinionated One>
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There is much i could say here, but i will simply keep my thoughts to myself and say that no, i am not a pillow princess...
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Re: It almost sounds like the start of a 12 step group.
A good old-fashioned John Wayne-style spanking is often a good start in a long term program of treatment.
But the full recovery rate is sadly, very low.
Like many other diseases, PillowPrincessalgea can be treated...but not cured.
There is hope, though.
Research into newer and better methods of spanking, gagging, bondage, clamps and orgasm deprivation all hold out promise of a cure one day.
We just need to keep trying.
I for one, am dedicated to the cause.
Because I care. I really do.
Lance "Dr. Crimson Glutes, M.D." Castor
Desdemona said:
A good old-fashioned John Wayne-style spanking is often a good start in a long term program of treatment.
But the full recovery rate is sadly, very low.
Like many other diseases, PillowPrincessalgea can be treated...but not cured.
There is hope, though.
Research into newer and better methods of spanking, gagging, bondage, clamps and orgasm deprivation all hold out promise of a cure one day.
We just need to keep trying.
I for one, am dedicated to the cause.
Because I care. I really do.
Lance "Dr. Crimson Glutes, M.D." Castor
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Let's get this straight.....
....from the outset on this thread and nip it in the bud, please.
Too many threads like this wind up full of "I'm not like that." and "I am upset because I think you are talking about me." responses that defocus the discussion and create flames.
Spankabelle, no one said you were a Pillow Princess. I'm not one either. Neither is Eb. Writer Dom....welllllll.... ;-)
Now...Do you have an opinion on the actual subject?
Cheers;
Lance
Ebonyfire said:
....from the outset on this thread and nip it in the bud, please.
Too many threads like this wind up full of "I'm not like that." and "I am upset because I think you are talking about me." responses that defocus the discussion and create flames.
Spankabelle, no one said you were a Pillow Princess. I'm not one either. Neither is Eb. Writer Dom....welllllll.... ;-)
Now...Do you have an opinion on the actual subject?
Cheers;
Lance
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Ebonyfire said:
i was not taking the original question as either of those and i did answer it ~smile~
It is hard to find genuine people online...Dom/mes, subs, friends...there are many surface'ships' rather than real relationships and friendships...many judge'ships' rather than relationships and friendships...
i don't wish just the emotional and sexual attention of a Dominant...i don't want to just lay there and be pampered...the submission, the need to submit is there, to give, to offer, to serve...so, by the definition given, i am not a pillow princess...although that is simply my opinion of myself...
belle
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Re: LOL
Though you laugh, Des....it's a serious quest.
A holy quest, really.
Sometimes it seems like I'll never be able to spank all the cute, estrogen-rounded, creamy glutes out there, no matter how hard I try.
So many cheeks to warm, so many nipples to pinch....*sigh*
Lance
Desdemona said:
Though you laugh, Des....it's a serious quest.
A holy quest, really.
Sometimes it seems like I'll never be able to spank all the cute, estrogen-rounded, creamy glutes out there, no matter how hard I try.
So many cheeks to warm, so many nipples to pinch....*sigh*
Lance
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Thank you, Belle. That is why I was hoping you would answer WD's question. I know you are not a PP, by your previous postings. I knew you would have something of value to offer (as always)
Eb
Eb
spankableBelle said:
i was not taking the original question as either of those and i did answer it ~smile~
It is hard to find genuine people online...Dom/mes, subs, friends...there are many surface'ships' rather than real relationships and friendships...many judge'ships' rather than relationships and friendships...
i don't wish just the emotional and sexual attention of a Dominant...i don't want to just lay there and be pampered...the submission, the need to submit is there, to give, to offer, to serve...so, by the definition given, i am not a pillow princess...although that is simply my opinion of myself...
belle
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My Work Cums First.
Well, Eb, with all the time I've been spending on my Holy Quest to quell the rising tide of Pillowprincessalgea in the world, my manly, sculpted bottom, so often the target of admiring erstrogen-fuelled quips in public libation stations, remains untouched, as do my small, firm man-nips, in this regard.
You see, my work cums first.
Lance "Ever Diligent" Castor
Ebonyfire said:
Well, Eb, with all the time I've been spending on my Holy Quest to quell the rising tide of Pillowprincessalgea in the world, my manly, sculpted bottom, so often the target of admiring erstrogen-fuelled quips in public libation stations, remains untouched, as do my small, firm man-nips, in this regard.
You see, my work cums first.
Lance "Ever Diligent" Castor
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Atlass
"Just give me a place to sit, and I shall spank the women of the world."
Lance "Atlass" Castor
Desdemona said:
'Tis a heavy burden you carry. My hero.
Wondering why I kept imagining Dan Aykroyd's voice saying "I'm on a mission from God" as I read this post.....
"Just give me a place to sit, and I shall spank the women of the world."
Lance "Atlass" Castor
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Re: Re: Atlass
No offence, but I wasn't planning on going camping in your sinuses to sit next to Mount Dew to watch it spew....
WriterDom, I'll back off to give others some room to post.
"Thanks, you've been a great audience. I'll be back later after a short break."
Lance "Shecky" Castor
Desdemona said:
No offence, but I wasn't planning on going camping in your sinuses to sit next to Mount Dew to watch it spew....
WriterDom, I'll back off to give others some room to post.
"Thanks, you've been a great audience. I'll be back later after a short break."
Lance "Shecky" Castor
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Youse guys are *silly* -- youse all know that?
(okay that was the best NYer accent I could come up with this early in the morning, lol.)
Ah, pillow princess...that is SO not me, lol.
But then again, I'm not wholey a sub yet either. But I've never been interested in any kind of sex where I lay back and do nothing! Just to receive -- yuch! To me sexual pleasure is in being able to give your lover what they want in order to pleasure them. As much as it is just as wonderful to let them have pleasure by pleasuring you. I'm someone who lets go completely during sex. Part of the reason why giving up control is so attractive to me. But it only works if you're giving up control to someone who wants to control you -- and if you both trust each other. I think they call that -- *mutual pleasure*
I think I have a few lovers that would absolutely stand behind me (er, uh, I think you know what I mean) that I don't just talk the talk -- I walk the walk...or er, rather -- take it like a woman and give it like a woman.
Perse
(okay that was the best NYer accent I could come up with this early in the morning, lol.)
Ah, pillow princess...that is SO not me, lol.
But then again, I'm not wholey a sub yet either. But I've never been interested in any kind of sex where I lay back and do nothing! Just to receive -- yuch! To me sexual pleasure is in being able to give your lover what they want in order to pleasure them. As much as it is just as wonderful to let them have pleasure by pleasuring you. I'm someone who lets go completely during sex. Part of the reason why giving up control is so attractive to me. But it only works if you're giving up control to someone who wants to control you -- and if you both trust each other. I think they call that -- *mutual pleasure*
I think I have a few lovers that would absolutely stand behind me (er, uh, I think you know what I mean)
that I don't just talk the talk -- I walk the walk...or er, rather -- take it like a woman and give it like a woman. Perse
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Ahem
I bet there are a few here on Lit who would like to "stand" behind you too! LOL
Eb
Persephone36 said:Youse guys are *silly* -- youse all know that?
(okay that was the best NYer accent I could come up with this early in the morning, lol.)
Ah, pillow princess...that is SO not me, lol.
But then again, I'm not wholey a sub yet either. But I've never been interested in any kind of sex where I lay back and do nothing! Just to receive -- yuch! To me sexual pleasure is in being able to give your lover what they want in order to pleasure them. As much as it is just as wonderful to let them have pleasure by pleasuring you. I'm someone who lets go completely during sex. Part of the reason why giving up control is so attractive to me. But it only works if you're giving up control to someone who wants to control you -- and if you both trust each other. I think they call that -- *mutual pleasure*
I think I have a few lovers that would absolutely stand behind me (er, uh, I think you know what I mean)
Perse
I bet there are a few here on Lit who would like to "stand" behind you too! LOL
Eb
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Re: Ahem
And Eb *wink, wink* some already have.
Perse "that's all I'm gonna say"
Ebonyfire said:
And Eb *wink, wink* some already have.
Perse "that's all I'm gonna say"
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"I am not a pillow princess." (repeat)
Given your participation in the mouthy, vocal, tell-it-like it is sistuh threads and your words above....how would you describe yourself then in the affirmative as opposed to saying what you are "not"? (same question I asked Spankabelle)
You say you are not wholly submissive.
Not a PillowPrincess.
Definitely concerned with equality ....and you are nobody's doormat.
Okay, so what are you then? (because I believe each of you show clear signs of princesshood)
Curiously;
Lance
Persephone36 said:
Ah, pillow princess...that is SO not me, lol.
But then again, I'm not wholey a sub yet either.
Perse
Given your participation in the mouthy, vocal, tell-it-like it is sistuh threads and your words above....how would you describe yourself then in the affirmative as opposed to saying what you are "not"? (same question I asked Spankabelle)
You say you are not wholly submissive.
Not a PillowPrincess.
Definitely concerned with equality ....and you are nobody's doormat.
Okay, so what are you then? (because I believe each of you show clear signs of princesshood)
Curiously;
Lance
