Are you a Judgemental Bigot?

[Killswitch]

Bigot: One obstinately devoted to his/her own opinions.

Judgement: A formal utterance of an opinion.

It is my conclusion that every human on the face of this earth fits the description of being a " Judgemental Bigot"

Now an argument can and probably will be made that unless you "Utter" or " Vocalize" these opinions you are not one, but an argument can also be made that this would be a stretch.

Are you firm in some opinions? For example: Are you obstinately of the opinion that cookie dough ice cream is the best ice cream in the world?

Are you obstinately of the opinion that the Literotica bulletin boards are the most fun boards you visit?

Are you prejudiced towards these examples, or any opinions about any thing?

Then by description you are a bigot.


Have you ever seen someone walking down the street and said "Boy that dress looks horrible on her" Have you said it, OR thought it to yourself?

Have you ever assumed something about someone here on these boards? Be it positive or negative?

Have you ever been cut off in traffic and thought the other driver was a moron?

Because we all have firm opinions about one thing or another, and we all either vocalize them, or think them to ourselves, then I believe we are all Judgemental Bigots.

By definition, I cant possibly see how anyone couldnt be one, since it is nearly impossible for a human to not notice other peoples opinions, personalities, dress, hair, whatever.

I agree with your opinion, or disagree, or I think that dress is great or not and will to the day I die. Thats an obstinate opinion and ergo Judgemental bigotry.

If you have a firm opinion, you are a bigot by definition.
If you vocalize it especially and to a slightly lesser degree think it.... then you are judgemental.

Making you a Judgemental Bigot.

Agree or disagree, by definition I believe we all are.

Im sure we will argue the definition of certain words here and thats cool.....but it's a pretty simple description according to Websters.

What do you think?

 

[metal_minx]

Everyone has a bit of bigot in them.

 

[Monazwx]

On certain topics, one has to be.
For example, my AV is hot.

 

[Lasher]

I think you edited your definitons a bit to make them meet your criteria. Merriam-Webster online says:

Bigot: person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

And then for your second word you listed Judgement, but by your terms the word you should've used is Judgmental

Judgmental: characterized by a tendency to judge harshly

So what you're really trying to do is defend the right of someone to Judge harshly through intolerance and prejudice

That's not acceptable.

Again you've tried to frame an argument to meet your preconceived ideas. However, others do think as individuals and the internet is a FANTASTIC tool for research.

Do be more careful in your definitions next time.

Thanks.

 

[Rubyfruit]

Yes, I think every one of us judge people on a daily basis.

What I attempt to do is not impose my judgment on people. I don't feel it's my place to approve or disapprove of them.

 

[Killswitch]

Yes, I think every one of us judge people on a daily basis.

What I attempt to do is not impose my judgment on people. I don't feel it's my place to approve or disapprove of them.

So by simply not imposing a judgement on people....does that make one non judgemental?

Im just curious here.

 

[Rubyfruit]

K.S., no, I'm as judgmental as the next person. I do try to curb it though, especially when I remember that I'm far from perfect myself.

 

[Guest]

K.S., no, I'm as judgmental as the next person. I do try to curb it though, especially when I remember that I'm far from perfect myself.

You're so creamy

 

[Monazwx]

A judgement is YOUR opinion only.
Imposing (or trying) that opinion on others makes someone an ass.

Having an opinion about someone is ok, but uttering it to hurt or demean them is not cool.

 

[MissTaken]

So by simply not imposing a judgement on people....does that make one non judgemental?

Im just curious here.

In a word, yes.

I have some opinions that are firm.

Some opinions that seem firm but will change with information or discussion.

My opinions are my own and I will not demean or think less of someone else for not agreeing with me.

 

[Bidin~Time]

Yes, I think every one of us judge people on a daily basis.

What I attempt to do is not impose my judgment on people. I don't feel it's my place to approve or disapprove of them.

I agree Ruby.

I don't feel it's necessary to "make" the world agree with me. I realize some of my opinions are skewed due to my personal life experiences. And this will hold true with anyone I meet. They will bring their personal experiences to their opinions. For that reason , I try not to judge others, but to accept their views as another way of seeing the same situation.

 

[SpiceCake]

In a word, yes.

I have some opinions that are firm.

Some opinions that seem firm but will change with information or discussion.

My opinions are my own and I will not demean or think less of someone else for not agreeing with me.

I am similar to MT on what I think. I do have some opinions that I hold firm to such as: incest is not cool. If you are into that - fine; I'm not and won't pretend to be. I work really hard at not forcing my opinions on others and I'm not sure I always succeed.

I do make judgements - that is a large part of who I am. If I could just remember to keep those to myself......LOL

Fuck, I'm rambling. Good thread, Switch!

 

[sterlingclay]

May I agree with Mona. HOT!!!




Now, let me side with you KS. I've heard this argument before in different terms and I whole heartedly agree. The argument is that we are all selfish, including assholes, nice folk, John Doe and mother Theresa. We do things that make us feel how we want to feel. We do things that trigger some internal response. Open your mouth about it and you are a judgemental bigot. Not that that is a bad thing. It's just human nature.

 

[Bidin~Time]

May I agree with Mona. HOT!!!




Now, let me side with you KS. I've heard this argument before in different terms and I whole heartedly agree. The argument is that we are all selfish, including assholes, nice folk, John Doe and mother Theresa. We do things that make us feel how we want to feel. We do things that trigger some internal response. Open your mouth about it and you are a judgemental bigot. Not that that is a bad thing. It's just human nature.

Would I be a judgemental bigot if I said:

If my cat ever smiles at me like that I'm going to run screaming for the hills.

 

[MissTaken]

May I agree with Mona. HOT!!!




Now, let me side with you KS. I've heard this argument before in different terms and I whole heartedly agree. The argument is that we are all selfish, including assholes, nice folk, John Doe and mother Theresa. We do things that make us feel how we want to feel. We do things that trigger some internal response. Open your mouth about it and you are a judgemental bigot. Not that that is a bad thing. It's just human nature.

I don't agree with that train of thought. Yes, we all have flaws, but making exemplifying bad manners by saying , "It is what you all think, all are or all want to do," is just a means by which to justify your own actions.

I believe we all have opinions. We all have preferences and thoughts that may seem closed minded, but I don't believe it is the asshole that has these. It is the asshole that lords those thoughts over others, tells others what they really think and makes sweeping generalizations about others based on their opinions in an effort to make what they are doing and saying okay.

Frankly, I see a lot of this in my "real" life as well as at lit. If you don't fling an opinion around like it is a sword in a heated duel, you have no spine. You don't think. You are a fence sitter.

Tolerance isn't respected by some, but it is a quality I not only have, but admire in others. Does that mean I don't think for myself? No. It is just that I chose to use good manners and can disagree without personalizing my opinion or directing it at one person or a group of people.

 

[Guest]

It's difficult not to be a judgemental bigot when you are a judge in the Miss World competition.

Mona's av won.

 

[Killswitch]

A judgement is YOUR opinion only.
Imposing (or trying) that opinion on others makes someone an ass.

Having an opinion about someone is ok, but uttering it to hurt or demean them is not cool.

Ok this makes sense.....simple and probably correct.


Lasher, my omission of the word and peramiter "Prejudiced" was unitentional in the definition of "bigot"

But in further examination of the word, I defer to you and you are correct.

If someone is Prejudiced against Al Queda for example....are they a Bigot?

 

[Killswitch]

May I agree with Mona. HOT!!!




Now, let me side with you KS. I've heard this argument before in different terms and I whole heartedly agree. The argument is that we are all selfish, including assholes, nice folk, John Doe and mother Theresa. We do things that make us feel how we want to feel. We do things that trigger some internal response. Open your mouth about it and you are a judgemental bigot. Not that that is a bad thing. It's just human nature.

But my sub point here is......do you really have to open your mouth about an opinion to be classified Judgemental.

If you form an opinion or prejudice about someone or some group, even in your own mind....wouldnt we agree that that makes you Judgemental?

Does it have to be expressed outwardly?

 

[Lasher]

If someone is Prejudiced against Al Queda for example....are they a Bigot?

Prejudice: (a) an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge (b) an instance of such judgment or opinion (c) an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics.

By definition, Yes.

 

[sterlingclay]

I believe we all have opinions. We all have preferences and thoughts that may seem closed minded, but I don't believe it is the asshole that has these. It is the asshole that lords those thoughts over others, tells others what they really think and makes sweeping generalizations about others based on their opinions in an effort to make what they are doing and saying okay.

My take on Judgmental bigotry has a poetic license to it. English is funny like that. Judgmental has a lot of meanings and so simply to have a certain take on something and voicing that opinion is a personal judgment. Bigotry is taking the position to back it up. What's the problem here?

I quoted this paragraph because the line of assholedom should be drawn somewhere in this basic definition, And you drew it well.

 

[Killswitch]

I have to jett to Dads house for lunch and wont be here for a while to back and forth my thread, but this is an interesting topic for me.......since I was labled one....I wanted to know if I really was one.....I believe I may be.

 

[MissTaken]

But my sub point here is......do you really have to open your mouth about an opinion to be classified Judgemental.

If you form an opinion or prejudice about someone or some group, even in your own mind....wouldnt we agree that that makes you Judgemental?

Does it have to be expressed outwardly?

No, there are many people who are bigots who either dont' express it or express only in the confines of their clique1 Ack! I used that word.

However, it seems that those people will allow their bigotry to pervade their interaction with others and that can be noted.

A racist may never vocalize racism, but may never approach a black man in freindship or will otherwise treat them differently.

 

[sterlingclay]

But my sub point here is......do you really have to open your mouth about an opinion to be classified Judgemental.

If you form an opinion or prejudice about someone or some group, even in your own mind....wouldnt we agree that that makes you Judgemental?

Does it have to be expressed outwardly?

No, I think not. I enjoy a laid back lifestyle and I don't need to say it. I don't like mean people and I need not say it but the opinion is there and, within, I back it up.

 

[Guest]

I am a good judge of character and I'm right 98% of the time

 

[Hamletmaschine]

Any thought or judgment that is not expressed in some way may as well not exist.

Chances are, however, that if one has a judgment--however biased or balanced--it will be expressed in some way.