Are there women who are attracted to complete jerks?

[Yarglenurp]

It’s a pretty common trope in cuckold stories and fem sub stories to have the girl be attracted to complete jerks. But I have a hard time believing this to be “real.”

Obviously there are domestic violence situations where the woman goes back to the man, but I get the sense that we are seeing the end stage of a toxic situation, and he wasn’t like that when they first got together. And also, I know there are a lot of rich assholes who are pulling women down… but that’s clearly just the woman making the calculation of “being filthy rich is worth having to deal with this asshole.”

Instead, I’m wondering if there are any women who sees a non-rich dude acting like an inconsiderate bully or piece of crap from the very beginning and says, “yes, that’s what I need in my life.” Like, she sees the guy do fucked up shit and it makes her super-aroused. If you are one of these girls or guys, can you verbalize your thought process on why you find the inconsiderate jerk to be attractive?

 

[Buttboy7869]

It’s a pretty common trope in cuckold stories and fem sub stories to have the girl be attracted to complete jerks. But I have a hard time believing this to be “real.”

Obviously there are domestic violence situations where the woman goes back to the man, but I get the sense that we are seeing the end stage of a toxic situation, and he wasn’t like that when they first got together. And also, I know there are a lot of rich assholes who are pulling women down… but that’s clearly just the woman making the calculation of “being filthy rich is worth having to deal with this asshole.”

Instead, I’m wondering if there are any women who sees a non-rich dude acting like an inconsiderate bully or piece of crap from the very beginning and says, “yes, that’s what I need in my life.” Like, she sees the guy do fucked up shit and it makes her super-aroused. If you are one of these girls or guys, can you verbalize your thought process on why you find the inconsiderate jerk to be attractive?

I think most of the women making those bad choices see some good in these guys and optimistically think they can chang the bad habits.

 

[Yarglenurp]

I think most of the women making those bad choices see some good in these guys and optimistically think they can chang the bad habits.

Yeah, so I think that’s right. But it’s pretty close to the first case… they didn’t start out totally fucked up, they just got that way.

 

[zoso682001]

Yeah, so I think that’s right. But it’s pretty close to the first case… they didn’t start out totally fucked up, they just got that way.

This might be the answer based on my wifes cousins track record .

 

[Yarglenurp]

This might be the answer based on my wifes cousins track record .

lol, what happened there?

 

[Britva415]

They don't see the guys as complete jerks. They see them as confident, decisive, macho, maybe a little attractively "bad" without realizing he's actually bad. Or they realize he's a jerk but don't care if he's only a jerk to other people but not to her. Or he's a jerk to her too but promises he doesn't mean it and c'mon baby you know I love you and it'll never happen again, no, this time, really. Or jerks are all she's ever known and she thinks her jerk is less jerky than all the other men must be.

He's her special jerk.

 

[Yarglenurp]

They don't see the guys as complete jerks. They see them as confident, decisive, macho, maybe a little attractively "bad" without realizing he's actually bad. Or they realize he's a jerk but don't care if he's only a jerk to other people but not to her. Or he's a jerk to her too but promises he doesn't mean it and c'mon baby you know I love you and it'll never happen again, no, this time, really. Or jerks are all she's ever known and she thinks her jerk is less jerky than all the other men must be.

He's her special jerk.

Yeah… that is prob another contributing factor… some women are just narcissistic assholes themselves.

 

[zoso682001]

lol, what happened there?

She couldn't seem to tell the good ones from the bad ones . Multiple times ! She finally found a good one but it took years .

 

[Yarglenurp]

I've been witness to this many times in my life. My jerk friends had all the girls. The nice guys sat home alone. I'm not condoning it, but some women like the bad boy.

What made the jerk friends jerks though?

 

[SavannaT]

Yes, i love jerks, i married a nice guy but would love to be taken a fucked by his bully or just a jerk in general who feels entitled to my married pussy

 

[secretSanna]

For me it's something in these lines as well. Especially here I don't mind getting messages that are less polite. Name-calling gets me wet lol.

 

[SPARTAN047]

Yes. I haven't seen much of it personally but I have seen the opposite, girls being jerks to nicer guys. Maybe some jerks keep their behaviour for only when she's moved in, or they can very cleverly disguise all of it as playful. Like guys do to each other.


Lots of times, I've heard girls admit that they prefer guys who refuse to take them seriously or mock them. Even if are slightly jerk-ish. The average guy takes the a-hole behaviour too far when he sees everyone is a little cowed by him. He forgets that he doesn't have to get carried away.


There are enough cougars and WOTS interviews where girls say they hate
nice guys but don't want a full jerk, just someone with an edge. The mysterious guy is more interesting.


I also noticed that some guys who became a little more indifferent or even a-holes actually get away with more things, whether with men or women.

 

[quietlylooking]

For a brief fling: the mysterious "bad boy" who shows hints of a hidden soft side.
For a longer-term companion, boyfriend, and/or partner, the nice guy EVERY TIME!

But if he's a total jerk? No chance at all with me.

 

[Yarglenurp]

Yes. I haven't seen much of it personally but I have seen the opposite, girls being jerks to nicer guys. Maybe some jerks keep their behaviour for only when she's moved in, or they can very cleverly disguise all of it as playful. Like guys do to each other.


Lots of times, I've heard girls admit that they prefer guys who refuse to take them seriously or mock them. Even if are slightly jerk-ish. The average guy takes the a-hole behaviour too far when he sees everyone is a little cowed by him. He forgets that he doesn't have to get carried away.


There are enough cougars and WOTS interviews where girls say they hate
nice guys but don't want a full jerk, just someone with an edge. The mysterious guy is more interesting.


I also noticed that some guys who became a little more indifferent or even a-holes actually get away with more things, whether with men or women.

Well, the non-sexual aspect of “getting away with more things” is probably that being an asshole is a tool for getting what you want, and the traditional punishment for being an asshole was ostracization and a swift punch in the mouth. Neither of these effects are really much in play anymore… even if you get banned from a store, you can just buy off of Amazon.

 

[Yarglenurp]

For a brief fling: the mysterious "bad boy" who shows hints of a hidden soft side.
For a longer-term companion, boyfriend, and/or partner, the nice guy EVERY TIME!

But if he's a total jerk? No chance at all with me.

Yeah, and I think the issue is that most guys just want an “answer” to be seen as both.

 

[SPARTAN047]

Well, the non-sexual aspect of “getting away with more things” is probably that being an asshole is a tool for getting what you want, and the traditional punishment for being an asshole was ostracization and a swift punch in the mouth. Neither of these effects are really much in play anymore… even if you get banned from a store, you can just buy off of Amazon.

Very good point. IDK if all of that was true, a court jester or a satirical writer could get away with a lot of things, even insulting the king. Maybe it depended on his livelihood.

And with nearly all women (including trans), they've agreed they want a bad boy for a fling but the nicer one for an LTR. The cheating usually happens with the bad boy again though.

It's no different from guys who take the sweet and home maker girl to their parents and fuck the brains out of the huge titty goth bitch who spits on them and asks them, 'That all you got? My fat arse can take cocks fifty times your size!' Then she gets pregnant.

 

[SPARTAN047]

PS The bit I said about men applies to women as well. If their titties are big enough, or arse, or they were made prom queen, or maybe if they're rich, they can try to get away with much more jerk behaviour with any gender.

 

[Yarglenurp]

Very good point. IDK if all of that was true, a court jester or a satirical writer could get away with a lot of things, even insulting the king. Maybe it depended on his livelihood.

And with nearly all women (including trans), they've agreed they want a bad boy for a fling but the nicer one for an LTR. The cheating usually happens with the bad boy again though.

It's no different from guys who take the sweet and home maker girl to their parents and fuck the brains out of the huge titty goth bitch who spits on them and asks them, 'That all you got? My fat arse can take cocks fifty times your size!' Then she gets pregnant.

A thought I also have is that, at least amongst those who can access all the technological marvels of modern society, asshole-ishness is literally getting bred out of the gene pool. From a genetics perspective, being an asshole (without going into the gory details of what being an asshole really means here) was huge advantage. However, with contraceptives and abortion available, the casual fling is way less likely to result in pregnancy.

 

[SPARTAN047]

A thought I also have is that, at least amongst those who can access all the technological marvels of modern society, asshole-ishness is literally getting bred out of the gene pool. From a genetics perspective, being an asshole (without going into the gory details of what being an asshole really means here) was huge advantage. However, with contraceptives and abortion available, the casual fling is way less likely to result in pregnancy.

Very interesting. That's possible, but the number of postmen and jerk a-holes who knock up all their friends wives, or some bitch slut who steals all her friends' husbands for a secret gangbang as long as they don't tell makes me have my doubts. I know people are better at wearing condoms, but the accidents and moments of passion happen.

 

[Yarglenurp]

Very interesting. That's possible, but the number of postmen and jerk a-holes who knock up all their friends wives, or some bitch slut who steals all her friends' husbands for a secret gangbang as long as they don't tell makes me have my doubts. I know people are better at wearing condoms, but the accidents and moments of passion happen.

Yeah, but how often will it happen these days vs back then? You got 2.5 layers of protection now. It’s not like the old days where people didn’t know where babies came from. the rise of other sexual practices as “safe” alternative to PIV sex, contraceptives, and abortion really can cut down on unwanted births.

Then, there’s also a hidden layer of “lack of opportunity.” life itself affords fewer opportunities for meeting random dudes to fuck. Postmen often just deliver into the central mailboxes for the entire neighborhood instead of going to your house. And I think dating apps have paradoxically made it far easier for cheating women to get what they want without getting impregnated. Instead being stuck with Joe the local milk man, she’s got access to the best dudes in the city, who would absolutely be motivated to use contraceptives and not impregnate a bunch of people.

The only real opportunities left are the jerk friends of the husband… but tbh, if the husband’s friends are assholes, the husband himself is probably also an asshole. A jerk impregnating another jerk’s wife doesn’t mean there’d be fewer jerks, just more flavors of jerks for future generations.

 

[SPARTAN047]

Yeah, but how often will it happen these days vs back then? You got 2.5 layers of protection now. It’s not like the old days where people didn’t know where babies came from. the rise of other sexual practices as “safe” alternative to PIV sex, contraceptives, and abortion really can cut down on unwanted births.

Then, there’s also a hidden layer of “lack of opportunity.” life itself affords fewer opportunities for meeting random dudes to fuck. Postmen often just deliver into the central mailboxes for the entire neighborhood instead of going to your house. And I think dating apps have paradoxically made it far easier for cheating women to get what they want without getting impregnated. Instead being stuck with Joe the local milk man, she’s got access to the best dudes in the city, who would absolutely be motivated to use contraceptives and not impregnate a bunch of people.

The only real opportunities left are the jerk friends of the husband… but tbh, if the husband’s friends are assholes, the husband himself is probably also an asshole. A jerk impregnating another jerk’s wife doesn’t mean there’d be fewer jerks, just more flavors of jerks for future generations.

Possible, they're even pickier about who they might let impregnate them and choose the rich guys like football players.

If allowed to like in swinging lifestyles, it seems the wives get pregnant by anyone as long as someone is stuck raising it.

 

[Yarglenurp]

Possible, they're even pickier about who they might let impregnate them and choose the rich guys like football players.

If allowed to like in swinging lifestyles, it seems the wives get pregnant by anyone as long as someone is stuck raising it.

Maybe, but there aren’t that many swingers, and even fewer female swingers within reasonable breeding age.

When people say swingers, I’m already picturing a group in their late 40s or older, kids out of the house or almost out, and basically ready to cash out of the daily grind.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

It’s a pretty common trope in cuckold stories and fem sub stories to have the girl be attracted to complete jerks. But I have a hard time believing this to be “real.”

Obviously there are domestic violence situations where the woman goes back to the man, but I get the sense that we are seeing the end stage of a toxic situation, and he wasn’t like that when they first got together. And also, I know there are a lot of rich assholes who are pulling women down… but that’s clearly just the woman making the calculation of “being filthy rich is worth having to deal with this asshole.”

Instead, I’m wondering if there are any women who sees a non-rich dude acting like an inconsiderate bully or piece of crap from the very beginning and says, “yes, that’s what I need in my life.” Like, she sees the guy do fucked up shit and it makes her super-aroused. If you are one of these girls or guys, can you verbalize your thought process on why you find the inconsiderate jerk to be attractive?

I think being a nice guy with a real spine can compete with jerks any day. A man who doesn’t leave his path for a woman makes for polarity which is essential to a good relationship. Strength, conviction and consistency are powerful tools.

 

[SPARTAN047]

Maybe, but there aren’t that many swingers, and even fewer female swingers within reasonable breeding age.

When people say swingers, I’m already picturing a group in their late 40s or older, kids out of the house or almost out, and basically ready to cash out of the daily grind.

A large number of them do it at the safe age, sure.

The number of girlfriends and boyfriends who cheat when young though seems to be increasing but getting pregnant is down for millennials and Gen Z.

 

[MrsIndianPeach]

Yes we do sometimes !
The way a man eyes compliments teases and even flirts slightly in front of my husband ! How shamelessly he flirts with his gf in front of me all makes me admire his actions !