Are the neo-cons trying to separate Russia and China?

[Robert_Mugabe]

Interesting perspective from a former Reagan administration official turned peace advocate.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/28/what-is-henry-kissinger-up-to-paul-craig-roberts/

 

[Ms_Ann]

Isn't China light years ahead of Russia? If that's the case we're picking the wrong side.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Divide and conquer. Old game. Don't even have to consistent in supporting a side. Whatever best serves you.

 

[Robert_Mugabe]

Isn't China light years ahead of Russia? If that's the case we're picking the wrong side.

Per Capita Income (PPP)-

48. Russia $25,965
84. China $14,340

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita


Human Development Index-

50. Russia
90. China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index


Nuclear Weapons (active)-

1. Russia (1,790)
5. China (260)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

 

[Ms_Ann]

Per Capita Income (PPP)-

48. Russia $25,965
84. China $14,340

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita


Human Development Index-

50. Russia
90. China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index


Nuclear Weapons (active)-

1. Russia (1,790)
5. China (260)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

Which would you say, over the last 20 years, country's economic status has climbed and which has declined?

 

[phrodeau]

The country with fewer nukes is the more civilized one.

 

[OldJourno]

Per Capita Income (PPP)-

48. Russia $25,965
84. China $14,340

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita


Human Development Index-

50. Russia
90. China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index


Nuclear Weapons (active)-

1. Russia (1,790)
5. China (260)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

How about vodka consumption?
Unlike China, Russia is working on a negative population rate it can't overcome.

 

[Robert_Mugabe]

...
Unlike China, Russia is working on a negative population rate it can't overcome.

http://russia-insider.com/en/russia...ably-healthy-birth-rate-highest-europe/ri2354

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/chinas-twilight-years/480768/

 

[Comshaw]

The country with fewer nukes is the more civilized one.

So North Korea is the most civilized nation??


Comshaw

 

[Conager]

So North Korea is the most civilized nation??


Comshaw

Somalia.

 

[Hard_Rom]

So North Korea is the most civilized nation??


Comshaw

N. Korea has nuclear weapons! Cheesy unreliable ones but they do have them.

A better thing to say would be 'A country with the capability of producing nuclear weapons and chooses not to is more peaceful'. Hence more civilized perhaps!

WW II necessitated that the Allies pursue nuclear weapons ahead of Nazi Germany. And contributed to the wars end before the end of 1946. The Cold War meant that someone had to build enough to check Stalinist Russian military strength. Who more likely than not would have tried to extend international communism to include all of Europe. They are a cheap and effective deterrent.

Australia, Canada, Germany, Netherlands and Japan could all have nuclear weapons rivalling Russia and the US within two to three years if they decided to do so. Canada is the world's largest producer of uranium. Nuclear devices could be produced in under 1 year in industrialized countries.

 

[KingOrfeo]

N. Korea has nuclear weapons! Cheesy unreliable ones but they do have them.

Yeah, but they can only deliver them by horse-drawn wagon.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Yeah, but they can only deliver them by horse-drawn wagon.

Probably more reliably than they can fire them on ICBMs.

All N. Korea has to do is hit Seoul, get close to Japan or get them into a high enough orbit to reach the States for an EMP effect. Or smuggle one out of the country on a friendly rogue state freighter and then transfer to terror group.

I suspect China has enough spies in N. Korea to stop a smuggling attempt. N. Korea needs Chinese aid and support. China need US dollars.