Anyone one seen The Christ,

[Pure]

Anyone seen The Christ,

The Passion of---the new Gibson movie that is? How do people like it? Any religious and/or Christian and/or evangelicals out there? What say you?

 

[pop_54]

Hmmmm

Can't say as I've seen, or even heard of it friend pure, but anything with Gibson's got to be crap.

 

[Guest]

Re: Hmmmm

Can't say as I've seen, or even heard of it friend pure, but anything with Gibson's got to be crap.

That is precious.

Perdita

 

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Actually, his hands are in it. They use his hands for the part where they nail Jesus to the cross.

 

[Pure]

Hey, Rhino, I rather liked "Payback." (But maybe you don't like pain, sadism, and violence.)!!

Let us know your views after!

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PS to Pops. I said "Gibson's movie". This was not intended to mean acting, but like saying, "Hitchcock's movie."

 

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[pop_54]

Actually, his hands are in it. They use his hands for the part where they nail Jesus to the cross.

Wow, did they hack them off and glue them on a real actor

 

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As I understand what Gibson has been advertising for the past year, "pain, sadism, and violence" is what it's about, no matter that it's Jesus Christ. I won't see it simply because I don't want to watch a man being tortured and mutilated for an hour+ on a huge screen (or a small one).

I am interested in the sequel though, that is what Christianity is about for me.

Perdita

 

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sadly...you have to have the one prior to the other.

Yes, but it was only a day in a 30-something man's life. Why focus on it? I prefer to think on the years before, and the meaning of the resurrection. Such attention to the physical suffering I find nearly antithetical to the true meaning of Christ's message. I cannot believe he would want people to focus on it. Think on it, it is the institutionalized 'church' that casts the spotlight on suffering and guilt. I prefer to rejoice.

Perdita

 

[kellycummings]

Yes, but it was only a day in a 30-something man's life. Why focus on it? I prefer to think on the years before, and the meaning of the resurrection. Such attention to the physical suffering I find nearly antithetical to the true meaning of Christ's message. I cannot believe he would want people to focus on it. Think on it, it is the institutionalized 'church' that casts the spotlight on suffering and guilt. I prefer to rejoice.

Perdita

While I mostly agree with your statements I think that what Gibson and others are trying to do is show what Jesus went through for us. I think they are trying to get us to understand exactly what He went through so that we can appreciate Him even more.
You are right, there are better, more interesting and certainly more wonderful parts of His life and ressurection but His death is undeniably important.

 

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Kelly, I do think that is what he is doing, but why? Isn't it enough to think and imagine it? I don't need to see a long graphic rape scene to understand how awful it is. And if I myself have not experienced violence, the most graphic depiction of it is not going to get me very near understanding the experience.

I simply see it as banal reduction of what Christ's death really meant.

Perdita

 

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I have heard that you need a strong stomach to see it. Since I rarely make it to the movies, I probably won't be seeing it until it is released on video.

 

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[English Lady]

Let me just say i have no idea about this movie....but I am Christian so i'm putting my tuppence worth in.

I always liked to gloss over the death bit....as Perdita said it's only one day in his whole life....but then I went on a Catholic retreat over Easter and took part in the Passion.

WOW. I discovered so much from actually coming face to face with the Death of Christ...it wasn't nice, it wasn't pretty in fact it really depressed me to the point of crying for little to no reason but then....well then came Easter morning....and Christ is Risen..He is Risen indeed!

You can't get the intensity of celebration of the ressurection if you do not dwell in the pain and suffering of the death.

 

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[English Lady]

Exactly rhino You know I remember carrying a cross at one of these retreats. It was 2 massive pieces of wood nailed crudely together and was used in the acting out of the passion. I moved it with 3 other people over a fairly short distance. the wood bit into my shoulder,it felt heavy even though i was not taking it's own weight. The sheer symbolism in that moment is astounding. I had problems carrying the physical burden of the cross...how did Jesus Manage with the Spiritual burden?


Anyway I am hi-jacking this thread....sorry folks*L*

 

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exerpt from a review

 

[dr_mabeuse]

You can't get the intensity of celebration of the ressurection if you do not dwell in the pain and suffering of the death.

I mean no disrespect, but I've always wondered how much pain and suffering you can experience when you know you're God? It always seemed to me that Jesus must have been wholly human when he was on earth, but I understand that's not what the theologians believe.

---dr.M.

 

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[English Lady]

Dr M....well this is where you get into that whole paradox thing of him being wholly human and wholly God.

I mean he was cut off from God for a while.....and that really freaked him out "my God,My God Why have you forsaken me?"

He was in a human body,with human strengths and weaknesses. He had flesh to pierce,blood to spill and bones to break.....he suffered physically.
He was seperated from his Father, his God,his power,he suffered mentally.
He had the weight of every sin upon his shoulders...he suffered Spiritually.


We can't imagie just how much he suffered.

He was scared of Death....remember that bit on the Mount of Olives? All the disciples are snoozing and he's pleading with God to not have to do this.

"Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done."

He was sweating bullets over it as well it says...he did not want to die...If he was a man you have to think that he had doubts and fears....he might know how it's going to end up...he may have the conviction that his belief is right but....I'm pretty certain his human nature was throwing in a host of "what if's" for him to battle with.


But that's just my personal view