Anti-Gay Provisions Dropped From Tennessee Adoption Bill

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In a state as politically conservative, 'in the Red', and basically owned by the religious right as Tennessee is, at least a few sane politicans still exist. Not all good news, but small steps forward (or at least not back) in a place where there is usually only steps backward into the last century.

Anti-Gay Provisions Dropped From Tennessee Adoption Bill
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff

Posted: March 9, 2005 2:02 pm ET


(Nashville, Tennessee) A bill to block gays from adopting in Tennessee has been gutted by a House subcommittee removing all restrictions on gay parenting.

The legislation would have barred gays and lesbians from adopting or becoming foster parents to the thousands of children in state orphanages and foster care.

Supporters of the measure said the children would be better off remaining in orphanages than being with a gay parent.

The bill was stronger the blanket gay adoption law in Florida, considered at present to be the toughest in the nation. Florida permits gays and lesbians to be foster parents.

The measure was sponsored by Rep. Chris Clem (R-Lookout Mountain) who was a cosponsor of last year's amendment to ban same-sex marriage.

''This is a coalition of a lot of people that believe that heterosexual Ozzie-and-Harriet-type family ought to be given priority in adoption,'' Clem said.

When the legislation reached the House Domestic Relations Subcommittee on Tuesday, Rep. John DeBerry ( D-Memphis) proposed the amendment removing references to ''homosexual persons'' in Clem's bill.

But, it was not all good news for gay families. DeBerry's amendment would give preference to heterosexual, married couples in state adoptions.

''At some point in time, all laws have to go back to a principle,'' he said. ''The principle that this law goes back to is that up until maybe the last 30 years marriage was between a man and a woman.''

Several other Democrats on the subcommittee voiced displeasure with both Clem's original measure and the amended version.

''This is political pandering of the worst sort. I think anytime a child is placed in a loving and compassionate environment around people who care, it's to the benefit of the child,'' said Rep. Beverly Marrero (D-Memphis).

Rep. Mike Turner (D-Old Hickory) said there should be more focus on divorce rates than on same-sex couples who want to adopt.

''Heterosexual marriage is almost like a Dixie cup, you drink it and you throw it away,'' said Turner. ''It's a sad day for me and it's a sad day for the people of this state.''

Nevertheless, the amended bill passed 7-3 and now heads to the House floor for a full vote.

The Senate version of the bill is still in the Senate Judiciary Committee but no action had been scheduled on it.

There were 9,853 children in state custody as of Jan. 31. Last year, 1,115 children in state custody were adopted.

Similar legislation to bar gay adoption in Virginia was also gutted in committee in that state last month. (story)
 
Good, stuff like that needs to be taken down. Gays should be alouded to have kids to.
 
What a victory...I mean really, We are talking about the South here.

I feel a few ways about this and I am looking for discussion.

1.) Children are still treated as property, and that is very sad. For the politician to say the children are better off in custody, then in homes...well that is just plain dumb.

2.) Give hetrosexual couples a step up over gay couples...if that gets the ban out of the bill. From the numbers that leaves about 3000 children that need loving homes. Yes, it sucks that they get to pick first, but gay couple are compassionate and loving and would due an excellent job raising the special needs kids. Now, if a gay couple wants to have a "normal" child, then we can just birth one. (sorry guys, but you will have to find a willing womb).

3.) Baby steps.

I do know a thing or two about the adoption process. The truth is, ALL of the kids that are waiting are special needs kids. Lets face it, to be waiting for a family to "pick" you...means your special needs. If this guy is pushing a bill that is so strongly treating the children like they are property and "choice picks"...don't worry, he will be shown for his true colors.

I am not trying to offend anyone with my post, this is just a dear subject to my heart.
 
I think it's absurd and sad that these "politicians" feel the need to even propose bills like these. *shakes head*..... It's outright bigotry and blatant discrimination... so what they are saying without even knowing these people (gay couples) that they are sub-par and less decent people by nature than heterosexual couples.... I don't see how bills like this even have chance of passing....

another thing I don't understand is why other people get so upset and passionate about homosexuals and their rights.... I just think I'm way more intelligent than these pretentious uppity fucks who think they are better than anyone else just because of who they go to bed with.....

I would like some of these right wing religious pukes to have their rights and status as a valid American questioned just because they are heterosexuals... They would think it's absurd and wrong... and That's exactly what homosexuals think about all of this... or at least I know that's what I think...

I find it hilarious that the christian right gets all moral about homosexuality because of what is taught about it in the bible...

The Bible also talks about sodomy and pre-marital sex as being wrong and immoral too... I can guarantee these uppity christians have all received a blow job before getting married... I don't see how they can weigh certain "lude" acts as more acceptable than other....

the hypocracy just makes me sick
 
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Very well said Mansome.....

You know all these tight-assed christian hypaocrits need to look in the mirror, and let it be known how many of them are frequenting the local prostitutes and making advances on children.

They talk of the bible, what I would like to know is didn't they see the chapters where the bible says it is wrong to be pedophiles. And wrong to be wife beaters, and things such as that.

As far as for homosexual rights, I thought we lived in America, where we are all supposed to be free to live our lives as we see fit. Isn't that what Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness is supposed to be all about.

I agree with you 1000 %.

Gypzie
 
I would also like to know who gives politicians and religious fanatics the right or the authority to decide who should be deemed as a fit parent. I know alot of hetrosexual people that should not be allowed to adopt an animal much less a child.
 
gypziedoll said:
I would also like to know who gives politicians and religious fanatics the right or the authority to decide who should be deemed as a fit parent. I know alot of hetrosexual people that should not be allowed to adopt an animal much less a child.

The Voters. Sad but true.
 
deezire1900 said:
The Voters. Sad but true.


Very true, deezire.

Tennessee is a great place to live and a beautiful part of the country, but the bigotry and sexism here makes me both sad and angry. This is not just the beliefs of a few fanatics, folks. That's how the majority of people here think.
 
anne27 said:
Very true, deezire.

Tennessee is a great place to live and a beautiful part of the country, but the bigotry and sexism here makes me both sad and angry. This is not just the beliefs of a few fanatics, folks. That's how the majority of people here think.



That's fucked up
 
I'm straight....

well...

mostly.. *evil grin* ;^)

But

What I think is the main issue with all of this is people are worried about how they will be perceived if they sympathize with a "gay" issue.. They think others may think they have homosexual tendancies.......

It's sad that way too many people in Tenneessee and many other parts of the country are so worried about how they will be looked at if they don't vote a certain way.... Even when they vote for a proposal that no one will see how they actually voted...

We had the gay marriage proposal up here in Michigan last November... of course the ban on gay marriages past overwhelmingly..... and not because many people are really opposed to it.. but they were afraid of what others would think of THEM if they voted to ok gay marriages....

If you are straight.. the ONLY way gay issues should affect you is if you let them.. if you are so insecure, so weak, so unintelligent that you think your lifestyle is so much superior than other people you probably never met or care to meet, then you have serious issues with your own moral fiber...

and I know these "people" I'm talking about will never see this message just because of where it's posted..

well they may see it.. but they certainly don't have the guts to reply to it..... *laughs*
 
and not because many people are really opposed to it.. but they were afraid of what others would think of THEM if they voted to ok gay marriages....

Mansom~

Very true. Kind of like VP Chaney. You know he loves and supports his daughter, but in order to keep his job he has to do what the idiot (pres bush) says.
 
deezire1900 said:
and not because many people are really opposed to it.. but they were afraid of what others would think of THEM if they voted to ok gay marriages....

Mansom~

Very true. Kind of like VP Chaney. You know he loves and supports his daughter, but in order to keep his job he has to do what the idiot (pres bush) says.


Fuckers like that are just weak.. very weak.. can't stand people who are mindless automotons that don't have a true conviction of their own but only express and take action because of what others think they should do or because how they would be perceived if they don't follow the norm....

lame

very

lame
 
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