Another Which Category Question

[Haulover]

This is a story about a straight guy who goes to a jack-off club. (NY Jacks - it's a real place. http://www.nyjacks.com/ )

It's a 1-off thing, and the guy has an interesting experience - and goes home to his wife and his straight life.

He is not gay, so I doubt gay male will be the right category (??)

Thoughts on where to post it?

 

[sr71plt]

He's jacked off by another guy? And he gets hard for that? Got news for you. He isn't completely straight (but then, I don't think anyone is). If we had a bi category, you could put it there. But we don't.

 

[ElectricBlue]

He's "straight" and goes to a jack-off club? Yeah, right. Is the story all going on in the club? Does he get so turned on by it all that he goes back home to shag the wife stupid, like he's never done before?

If the answers are yes, yes, and yes, then gay, surely? If something is round and bounces, it's probably always a ball; so call it what it is.

Otherwise, Erotic Encounters?

 

[sr71plt]

If what he's building up to is fucking his wife, no, I wouldn't put it in GM. My point is that Literotica doesn't offer a good category to put these in. So, I'd have to see the completed work to suggest a "not so good, but the best you're going to get" category for it.

(There's no "Erotic Encounters" category here.)

 

[lovecraft68]

Okay he goes to a jack off club, but does he get jacked off, or does he just jerk off there himself?

If its the latter there could be a case to be made for Exhibitionism/Voyeur.

I don't think there's enough activity for it to be GM if he is doing it himself-the OP is not clear on that-so there is always the catchall of Erotic couplings.

If another guy does it to him. I would think GM....I wonder....toys and masturbation.

This one is tricky.

 

[sr71plt]

Fetish, maybe. If the story shows that he's obsessed with hand jobs from guys but nothing else with them and otherwise is all hetero acting. But, sorry, if he's turned on by anything with a guy but still is turned on with women too, he's bi, and there's no story category for him on Literotica.

 

[lovecraft68]

Fetish, maybe. If the story shows that he's obsessed with hand jobs from guys but nothing else with them and otherwise is all hetero acting. But, sorry, if he's turned on by anything with a guy but still is turned on with women too, he's bi, and there's no story category for him on Literotica.

Right no Bi, but there is a lot of bi type material in fetish and the crowd seems okay with it. Fetish seems devoid of the "real men" and homophobic trolls that haunt other categories.

I'm not sure that I agree there is no such thing as straight men-or women-I think there's people who have never once had thoughts of the opposite gender. But that's my opinion based on the fact I can't personally recall any type of curiosity on my part towards anything involving a guy.

I've got enough weird kinks in other areas as it is, maybe that's why.

 

[Handley_Page]

This is a story about a straight guy who goes to a jack-off club. (NY Jacks - it's a real place. http://www.nyjacks.com/ )

It's a 1-off thing, and the guy has an interesting experience - and goes home to his wife and his straight life.

He is not gay, so I doubt gay male will be the right category (??)

Thoughts on where to post it?

Fetish ?

 

[Haulover]

Thanks for the input so far.

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I don't think there's enough activity for it to be GM if he is doing it himself-the OP is not clear on that-so there is always the catchall of Erotic couplings.
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Let me (the OP) clarify (the following is of course way over-simplified) :

- He's on a business trip in New York.

- He finds out about NYJacks, and goes.

- He touches others and they touch him.

- The club has a strict rule about no touchy-feely above the shoulders or in the anal region - it's just jacking off, and nothing goes inside anything.

- He finds it all to be interesting, and a big turn on.

- One of the club members suggests they go to a hotel to take things further. He had NO interest.

- He leaves the club, goes home to his wife, and does not plan to go back. It was an interesting experiment, which I describe in detail. That's all...

I doubt that goes in gay male. I can see fetish as a possibility. I'm not sure it lives in erotic encounters...

 

[jomar]

Wait up! You have to build the suspense!

Say he does yoga and goes to a class on his trip. But it tuns out to be an all male nude yoga class (just learned there's one in my town...who knew?).

Anyway, he shyly succumbs to gentle peer pressure and participates and a friendly guy says he knows of a club where they can get a few drinks.

One thing leads to another and winds up in a big ole' circle jerk.

Back home life returns to normal.

And the ending of your story is as he's falling to sleep one night on another trip he wonders if a bathhouse might be a good way to destress.

Practically writes itself, no?

 

[Hypoxia]

If he's not had MM contact before, try First Time. Bust his gay cherry.

 

[KayceeCharles]

Somehow it doesn't feel "first time". I'd say fetish, but as a "straight guy tries letting a man jack him off" fetish.

It's not strictly a fetish for the MMC, but it's a fetish to turn on the reader.

 

[sr71plt]

If he's not had MM contact before, try First Time. Bust his gay cherry.

MM first time goes in GM. I swear I think most of you don't understand about gay male and the Literotica readers.

 

[Learin]

I think it should go to fetish. A jack-off fetish sounds weird but it's still better than GM. A "straight" guy going to a gay club to get jacked off, but doesn't want to do anything with it in the future doesn't sound like GM material to me. A one off story like this will do better in fetish.

However, if you had something like the man getting interested in some hot, sweaty man-on-man action after that incident, it could be well placed in the GM category.

 

[Hypoxia]

MM first time goes in GM. I swear I think most of you don't understand about gay male and the Literotica readers.

How would GM readers react to a story with only a handjob? Would it be sufficient? Especially if he goes home horny to his wife?

 

[sr71plt]

How would GM readers react to a story with only a handjob? Would it be sufficient? Especially if he goes home horny to his wife?

That depends on how it's written. I think I could write a "go to a jack-off club, get a handjob, and go home to the wife" story and put it in GM (and maybe I'll try it). But I certainly couldn't do it with the story presenting him as straight, which is what the OP specifies.

I'd have to present it as a highly emotional "realizing he's at least bi" story--spending considerable effort on a believable story getting him to the jack-off club and then--for it being acceptable in the GM category--having him dissatisfied with the relationship he finds at home and having a gestalt that the MM experience was more what he wanted. The ending in a GM category story can't really be a rejection of GM.

I'd probably do the setup of being in the club as something the reader would think he was just curious--and then more turned on than he thought he'd be--send him home and to bed and dissatisfied in bed there with his wife. The sting in the tail would be that this is a circular pattern he's in--he's been to the club before, he's with his wife for some other reason that straight sex (maybe she's the rich one) and he's on a treadmill of really knowing what he wants but not able to jump ship altogether.

He couldn't be depicted as really straight, though, which is the OP's plot line.

 

[Bramblethorn]

That depends on how it's written. I think I could write a "go to a jack-off club, get a handjob, and go home to the wife" story and put it in GM (and maybe I'll try it). But I certainly couldn't do it with the story presenting him as straight, which is what the OP specifies.

Interesting - Lesbian Sex has a lot of "woman who identifies as straight has F-F sex" stories and they're quite popular there, but it sounds as if GM is more picky re. orientation?

 

[sr71plt]

Interesting - Lesbian Sex has a lot of "woman who identifies as straight has F-F sex" stories and they're quite popular there, but it sounds as if GM is more picky re. orientation?

It's more that the readers are pickier. A lot of male readers are turned on by lesbian sex (if only from the attitude of "I could cure that" or "double the fun for me in the middle of that" and because, if they are turned on by the female form, having more of them isn't going to turn them on less). The male body isn't going to do that for this brand of reader. And a good many of them are so threatened by their own "not solely hetero" thoughts that they rail against a GM setup.

I don't mind that meaning my GM stories are restricted to one category here. What I do mind is having a reader say "this should have been in BDSM" or something similar. Lit. gives the straight stories many category choices. It doesn't do that for GM stories--and it doesn't give a home to bi stories at all.

 

[Jay321]

GM seems like the place to me, but I can see how fans of that section would have issue with it. It is one of those stories that just don't seem to have the "perfect" home.

I think that GM is the trump category because a very large percentage of "straight"men are extremely homophobic. Personally I go with the "let your freak flag fly" theory on things, but the GM stories do nothing for me.

sr71plt, just out of curiosity, what is your opinion about which would be the trump, GM or incest? (two brothers, father/son) I only ask because that is, to me, a major trump category as well.

 

[sr71plt]

sr71plt, just out of curiosity, what is your opinion about which would be the trump, GM or incest? (two brothers, father/son) I only ask because that is, to me, a major trump category as well.

I have done male-male incest stories. They were all put in GM, and I don't remember having gotten more than one or two objections to that on the basis of it being incest.

 

[NotWise]

Interesting - Lesbian Sex has a lot of "woman who identifies as straight has F-F sex" stories and they're quite popular there, but it sounds as if GM is more picky re. orientation?

F-F sex is a major theme in mainstream porn -- really, it's everywhere. I read one interpretation of that phenomenon (can't give the source) in which the author attributed it to a perception that F-F sex is more erotic than M-F sex.

 

[Sammael Bard]

Goldeniangel has an incest story (dad on son) which is in incest category. It's a part of a noncon/incest series so I guess all of them got bunched together and posted in a single category.

Single, one off stories would go to GM.

 

[Kimikimidoll]

One of the chapters in my noncon series doesn't have any nonconsent or reluctance in it, so I put it in romance. Very soon, I get comments telling me to 'put my garbage where it belongs, in noncon.'
Obviously, it's still sitting under romance.
So if you're fine with hearing those sort of silly comments, put it wherever you feel it goes best.

 

[Athalia]

I just finished editing a series of stories by Jehoram about a similar situation: An erotic massage parlor where the "clients" (male and female) masturbated by both male and female attendants. We had some discussion about where to put it, and none of the categories seemed to fit, so he put it into "Group Sex" on the grounds that many people were involved and the activity wasn't exclusively gay or straight.

I'm facing the same problem myself with a story I just wrote. It involves a middle-aged female reconnecting with an old school-mate. After one of them masturbates in front of the other (Masturbation? Exhibitionism?) they make love (Lesbian?) and then bring a man into their bed (Erotic Couplings? Group sex?). The guy doesn't make straight women out of them; in fact, he's not in control of the situation at all.

I think I'll end up putting it in Group Sex. But I do find that categories aren't good at putting oddly shaped pegs into oddly shaped holes. It's frustrating sometimes. But I persevere.

 

[jehoram]

I think I'll end up putting it in Group Sex. But I do find that categories aren't good at putting oddly shaped pegs into oddly shaped holes. It's frustrating sometimes. But I persevere.

I agree with you. Stories like "The Masturbatorium" and your new story are always going to have problems with categories. It's mostly a problem of connecting the story with the right readership, which makes a difference if you're going for high scores (which I'm not). A person who mines the "Group Sex" category in search of lots of people screwing each other isn't going to find much jollies in either of those stories. And people who visit the "Lesbian" section might find the presence of a man in the story off-putting. I'd bet that you're not going to get good scores from that kind of reader, unless you're good enough to transcend his reluctance to get turned on by seeing something outside his usual range of interest/fetish.

But, as my Bostonian friend might say, "Whatcha gonna do?"

BTW, I'm glad to see you're writing again! It's been a while.