Another Momcest thread

[MotherloverSon]

Has anyone written a Momcest story where Mom is, if not quite dominant, kind of controlling and domineering? Where she instigates the affair with her darling boy? He might think it's wrong to fuck Mom, but she does whatever the hell she wants and she always gets what she wants.

 

[Carnevil9]

Personally, I find that dynamic extra squicky. When Mom dominates Son, or Dad dominates Daughter, it seems like an abuse of power. Not that that can't lead to a great story! Some people love it, and good for them. But if the Son dominates the Mom (or Daughter dominates Daddy), it's like a role reversal, the underdog winning out, and I find it more interesting and affirming. But granted, that's just me.

 

[MotherloverSon]

I guess it comes down to taste. I’m really not into submissive women.

Plus I also want an old-fashioned mother-on-son spanking!

 

[LupusDei]

I think that's frowned upon because coming too close to horrid abuse (a lot of? most?) intergenerational incest is in real world.

Nothing wrong with exploration of such reality in art, it can of course be interesting and potentially beneficial (and I'm of those who believes art shouldn't stress about mission or occasional damage to small subset of vulnerable people due to their own psychological problems as considering everything is impossible; one should acknowledge that doing no harm is objective impossibility; not that minimizing harm isn't worthy goal), and very likely arousing to people with certain inclinations. The last however may contain subset Literotica management is determined to keep off the site.

Not wanting the mother submissive is fine. I don't understand why it is seen as binary, either or. (Then, such binaries seems running deep in anglophone culture rearing it's ugliness in many unexpected places and forms. Newsflash, nothing, absolutely nothing ever, is a clear cut binary duality; actual extremes of anything, from sexual orientation to political opinions are in fact vanishingly rare and more often than not self delusional.)

The most healthy relationship is between equal partners with balanced shared power distribution. In case of partners of different age involved in existing power structure (what a family unit is) they start it already off balance. That's fine, that's why evolving relationships are interesting. It is natural expectation however, for it to move towards equality, not away from it, but that's also a valid dynamic.

Making her a dominant... Maybe it could be a somewhat humorous take, where the sexual aspect emerge from son misunderstanding the mother, and her just not aware of that until much too late, and then going with it just to stay in power, thinking it's him needing it. That would make both confused and conflicted even long since having sex regularly.

 

[Qubiquitous]

By Literotica standards seeing someone naked is sexual in nature. So, by Literotica standards almost all of us have have committed incest and broken the 18 rule in real life.

I think that... mom dominant stories are frowned upon because coming too close to horrid abuse (a lot of? most?) intergenerational incest is in real world.

I think it's what makes the headlines and gets discussed BECAUSE it's horrid. But I also think most kids "play around with other kids" growing up and that is just a part of a healthy childhood THAT WE CAN'T DISCUSS IN STORIES HERE

because... it is very likely arousing to people with certain inclinations. The last however may contain subset Literotica management is determined to keep off the site.

And likely to arouse those anti-sexual perverts who wish to have all access to erotica eliminated.

Nothing wrong with exploration of such reality in art, it can of course be interesting and potentially beneficial (and I'm of those who believes art shouldn't stress about mission or occasional damage to small subset of vulnerable people due to their own psychological problems as considering everything is impossible; one should acknowledge that doing no harm is objective impossibility; not that minimizing harm isn't worthy goal),

I am firmly convinced that the only way you can avoid upsetting SOMEBODY is to never have existed.

Not wanting the mother submissive is fine. I don't understand why it is seen as binary, either or. (Then, such binaries seems running deep in anglophone culture rearing it's ugliness in many unexpected places and forms. Newsflash, nothing, absolutely nothing ever, is a clear cut binary duality; actual extremes of anything, from sexual orientation to political opinions are in fact vanishingly rare and more often than not self delusional.)

Many of my stories are basically "making lemonade out of the lemons you already have." A favorite I-T story was a brother and sister living with their single mom who decide to help mom become "more assertive and to stand up for herself." ( I should write kinky self-help books. )

The most healthy relationship is between equal partners with balanced shared power distribution. In case of partners of different age involved in existing power structure (what a family unit is) they start it already off balance. That's fine, that's why evolving relationships are interesting. It is natural expectation however, for it to move towards equality, not away from it, but that's also a valid dynamic.

Speaking for myself it has to be consensual. But it doesn't have to be equal, in real life parents are constantly "grooming" their children (just not sexually). The younger generation is pushed into sport, education, career choices that they could not have dreamed existed let alone desired without being guided.

Again here at Lit, we have to be careful in choosing subject matter. Great parents open multiple doors for their progeny and let them decide. Good parents teach their children everything that they know. Abusive parents use their young for their own gain. In many ways not just sexually-- or financially in the case of child actors-- which is what get headlines.

Making her a dominant... Maybe it could be a somewhat humorous take, where the sexual aspect emerge from son misunderstanding the mother, and her just not aware of that until much too late, and then going with it just to stay in power, thinking it's him needing it. That would make both confused and conflicted even long since having sex regularly.

What people enjoy in the bedroom-- or the hot tub on the back patio "Oh... Hi, Mrs. Johnson, nice looking beans you have growing there"-- can be very different from what they enjoy outside of sex. I have the ability to enjoy having two guys tell me what I am going to do while naked in the den, but they may not order dinner for me beforehand or tell me what to do afterward.

 

[MotherloverSon]

wing up and that is just a part of a healthy childhood THAT WE CAN'T DISCUSS IN STORIES HERE
And likely to arouse those anti-sexual perverts who wish to have all access to erotica eliminated.I am firmly convinced that the only way you can avoid upsetting SOMEBODY is to never have existed. Many of my stories are basically "making lemonade out of the lemons you already have." A favorite I-T story was a brother and sister living with their single mom who decide to help mom become "more assertive and to stand up for herself." ( I should write kinky self-help books. )Speaking for myself it has to be consensual. But it doesn't have to be equal, in real life parents are constantly "grooming" their children (just not sexually). The younger generation is pushed into sport, education, career choices that they could not have dreamed existed let alone desired without being guided.

I *love* the idea of a mother "grooming" her son to be her lover. Both before they sleep together and after. She's annoyed with some of the men she's dated over the years and she's become aware that her son is attracted to older women (maybe he's had visible crushes on female teachers or on some of her friends, maybe she's discovered that he's addicted to MILF pornography). Why not turn her (oh so handsome, oh so sweet) son into her ideal man? And this time, she'll be in clear control. (I imagine the mother understanding the social rule against such a relationship, but thinking it is stupid and not worthy of respect).


Again here at Lit, we have to be careful in choosing subject matter. Great parents open multiple doors for their progeny and let them decide. Good parents teach their children everything that they know. Abusive parents use their young for their own gain. In many ways not just sexually-- or financially in the case of child actors-- which is what get headlines.

Of course, Mom will teach her son everything about sex -- with an emphasis on how to please a woman.


What people enjoy in the bedroom-- or the hot tub on the back patio "Oh... Hi, Mrs. Johnson, nice looking beans you have growing there"-- can be very different from what they enjoy outside of sex. I have the ability to enjoy having two guys tell me what I am going to do while naked in the den, but they may not order dinner for me beforehand or tell me what to do afterward.[/QUOTE]

 

[MotherloverSon]

Most of what I have in mind seem to be Momcest cliches.
-- A mother and son who grow up so, so, so close. (Dad is out of the picture early). Convinced that her husband turned into a mess because she was too easy with him, she controls her son's life, and it turns out great.
-- Mom dates casually as her son gets older, but mostly disappointed with the quality of men out there.
-- Son is turning into a sweet, handsome young man, and Mom notices (I know I need to be careful), but is still shy with girls, and he turns 18 still a virgin. It's also clear that he's more into grown women than girls his own age.
-- Mom secretly plots to seduce her son, which she does after his 18th birthday.
-- After the seduction, she thinks it was a great success, but her son is a little confused. She reassures him what they did was perfectly normal and healthy.
-- They become passionate lovers over the next few months and she grooms him as her ideal man.
-- He goes off to college and they both miss each other deeply. They both get some action, but are disappointed -- she still doesn't much like the available guys, he finds that girls his age don't enjoy sex the way Mom does. He falls into the party scene at college, and instead of being the outstanding student he has always been, his grades are poor.
-- When he comes home for Christmas, Mom is very displeased by his academic performance. She blames his drinking (Dad drank) and those "stupid sluts" who don't know what's good for him the way she does. She gives him an over-the-knee spanking. When it's over, they fall into each other's arms, almost sobbing. They confess that they have really fallen in love with each other. They make love under the Christmas tree, thinking of all the happy moments they have shared before.
-- They agree to a deal where they each can have casual flings, but that their relationship will always come first. College is close enough that the son can come home frequently for weekends, which will always be "their time."

Flash forward a couple of years...

Mom has turned her son into her vision of a Handsome Young Man. Naturally, he gets some attention from the ladies, and Mom smiles when she realizes he sleeps more often with female professors her age than with those "stupid sluts." But Mama always comes first. They yearn for a place where they can show their love. They escape to a resort a couple of states away where no one will know them. It's the sort of place that appeals to a woman of Mom's age -- spas, swimming, wine tasting, fine dining, dancing at night. They enjoy messing with people's minds about the true nature of their relationship. Are their mother and son or cougar and cub? (They notice a fair number of successful older women with handsome young men on their arms). She has done such a good job grooming her son that she is constantly getting compliments -- but are they talking about how she raised her son or how she scored such a hot young guy? A couple of days in, she strikes up a conversation with another woman her age also accompanied by an attractive young man. They soon realize that they are actually in the same situation....

 

[Abbafan]

Personally, I find that dynamic extra squicky. When Mom dominates Son, or Dad dominates Daughter, it seems like an abuse of power. Not that that can't lead to a great story! Some people love it, and good for them. But if the Son dominates the Mom (or Daughter dominates Daddy), it's like a role reversal, the underdog winning out, and I find it more interesting and affirming. But granted, that's just me.

The dad - daughter dynamic actually bothers me more than mom - son. We're talking adults here, so the dad is almost certainly going to have a pretty big physical advantage over the daughter. Dads also tend to be more of an authority figure in families. Maybe I should rethink that part of it, though. I could see a mother having an emotional hold over a son that would give her a lot of power over him even once he was an adult, despite him being bigger and stronger.

 

[Qubiquitous]

Maybe I should rethink that part of it, though. I could see a mother having an emotional hold over a son that would give her a lot of power over him even once he was an adult, despite him being bigger and stronger.

She wasn't specifically talking about sex, and she told me at an age I can't mention here. But growing up mom said, "any woman who cannot control her man isn't trying."

She... And I.. Have always been benevolent dictators.

 

[PattieD]

The mother has been straying sexually from the husband as her tastes have become younger. So much so, that when she is out with the husband she slips into lewd commentary about the young men in their surroundings. The husband tolerates and accommodates her because he has not been with her in months.
Yet, his patience grows thin as she starts talking and making suggestions about their soon to be college bound son. Knowing that her abstinence from him is wearing, she suggests that if he wants to have sex with her that he must convince the son to become part of a familial threesome.
Even though the fleeting thought is tempting, he refuses her proposal with strength. And, with matching fervor, she threatens to simply have sex with her son before he runs off to college.
Her constant narrative of what she would like to experience with him drives the husband to the end of his tolerance and pushes back with divorce papers and moves out of the house.
Fast forward -
The mother transitions her fantasies into reality that is met by reluctant son that surprisingly turns dominant. Turns out that he has been waiting for this moment with an elaborate plan that involves her restraint for sex for days, visits from his friends and erotic pictures forwarded back to his father.
The question posed to his father with the pix is . . .
Would he be interested in having sex with a restrained and blindfolded wife? Maybe, along with his son . . .

 

[Qubiquitous]

Fun Fact: US Army Air Service (later the US Army Air Corps, USAAF, and US Air Force) pilots invented "wife swapping" in the 1920s. (The concept was: (1) It's fun. (2) Flying was a dangerous job back then and many pilots died in the line of duty. By making everyone part of "one big family" surviving officers would take care of non-surviving officers wives and children as their own, and (3) it was fun.)

I don't like sad stories, threats, blackmail, or coercion.

In my "Borinquen" series, set in the 1960s, the mother and father were part of a "group sex club" at the Air Force Base. They had two "old enough to be included in a Literotica story" children, an older son and a younger daughter. Almost all of the "kids" friend's parents, and some of their AAFDES (Army and Air Force Dependent Educational Services, the predecessor to DODDS) teachers were part of this group.

So the dads were not jealous of their "old enough" sons. If the Wing was deployed and sent to Guam, Alaska, or the Keeling Islands there was not really a reason for those who had to stay behind in Aguadilla to go without. The dads all knew that they will get a big "welcome home" later.

Okay, so far I just described my "old enough to tell about" teenage years...

So veering off the "truth, whole truth, and nothing but the truth..." path into fiction, strong young men about to enter the Academy themselves served to comfort all the mothers left behind-- mostly the other mothers, meaning their friend's moms, but sometimes their own moms-- as well as to reassure their girlfriends. Who would of-course be the sisters of their friends at school. Sometimes they reassured their own sisters as well.

Because back then one never knew. The BUFFS (Big Ugly Fat Fuckers, aka. Boeing B-52s) of the Wing did not get the big belly modification like those operating in Vietnam. Their crews trained to deliver "special" (meaning nuclear) munitions. The "Pump Jockeys" (pilots of the KC-135 "Filling Stations") were taught to transfer every bit of fuel into the bombers before crashing into the sea because their base and their families would have already been vaporized. The whole world might simply cease to exist at any moment.

So in this environment, people got close, very close, and they took care of friends, good care. Perhaps just a little bit more intimately in my fiction. The enemy was over the horizon, not within.

 

[MotherloverSon]

The mother transitions her fantasies into reality that is met by reluctant son that surprisingly turns dominant. Turns out that he has been waiting for this moment with an elaborate plan that involves her restraint for sex for days, visits from his friends and erotic pictures forwarded back to his father.
The question posed to his father with the pix is . . .
Would he be interested in having sex with a restrained and blindfolded wife? Maybe, along with his son . . .[/QUOTE]

Fun for you, but totally uninteresting to me. I don't like any scenes where a woman is submissive.

 

[MotherloverSon]

The dad - daughter dynamic actually bothers me more than mom - son. We're talking adults here, so the dad is almost certainly going to have a pretty big physical advantage over the daughter. Dads also tend to be more of an authority figure in families. Maybe I should rethink that part of it, though. I could see a mother having an emotional hold over a son that would give her a lot of power over him even once he was an adult, despite him being bigger and stronger.

A couple of reasons why I like mother-son so much:

Mothers can have psychological power over their offspring that far outstrips physical coercion. They can use that power for good or for.....

"Mother love" is supposed to be so pure. What if it's not being so pure?

(I've also known mothers who go on and on about how handsome their sons have become. Easy to take that some place...)

 

[PattieD]

Fun for you, but totally uninteresting to me. I don't like any scenes where a woman is submissive.

Tied down. Restrained and relentlessly penetrated for days against her will is your idea of “submissive”?

 

[MotherloverSon]

That's even less appealing. Maybe you like it, but that sounds like as much fun as eating ground glass to me.

There is nothing less erotic to me than a woman suffering or in pain.

 

[Earthlyone]

She gives him an over-the-knee spanking.

It was going quite well until this.

An over-the-knee spanking?! really??

 

[geronimo_appleby]

und jetzt...

https://www.literotica.com/s/pornography-my-mother-said-pt-01

 

[MotherloverSon]

Ooooo I like this! Thank you. It has some things I really like: mom taking the initiative, mom being guilt-free, mom having a promiscuous past that doesn't bother her at all, mom teaching her son about sex. Even some talk of love -- I keep imagining a passionate love affair between mother and son. I'll have to read the rest of the series.

 

[MotherloverSon]

Just watched "Taboo." It's awesome! Love Kay Parker and Juliet Anderson. Loved watching Mike Ranger eat his mother's pussy like a good boy should. Will have to check out others in the series. But is there other stuff out there that's so upfront about it being mother-son incest? (Not the "stepmother" crap). Especially would like to see sorta-realistic age gaps.

 

[Smoothshavendad]

und jetzt...

https://www.literotica.com/s/pornography-my-mother-said-pt-01

Just read this story. It has my cock rock hard!!!!!!!!!

 

[MotherloverSon]

Just read this story. It has my cock rock hard!!!!!!!!!

Love mamas who seduce....I want more, more, more!!

 

[SteelPoint]

Let's be clear about this. Incest is not necessarily anything to do with coercion, submission, domination or any other form of 'insistence'.

I've written quite a few short stories where there is simply a 'falling into place'... and I'm sure that others have too. Far more interesting than the lame, easy-way-out reliance on some kind of force.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

Just read this story. It has my cock rock hard!!!!!!!!!

an excerpt from the scene i have pending:

“My tits,” my mother breathed.

I blurted in shock when, with calm purpose, she stepped back one pace, fingers at the bodice as she yanked it down to expose her big breasts.

“Look at them, Danny,” she crooned, expression tight and intent. “Mummy’s big tits…”

As she said it, my mother hefted her boobs, tips of her forefingers teasing button nipples in the centre of saucer-sized areolae.

“Take your shorts off,” she said, snapping it like a command.

“Mum,” I gurgled.

“Now,” my mother insisted, stepping in to do it herself.

My cock sprang up when my mother shoved my shorts to my knees, the jib more than halfway erect.

“God, you’re built like your father,” I heard her say through sigh. “He’s a big lad as well. Couldn’t keep his dick in his trousers but, well, God, he knew how to fuck.”

She said it as she stepped away another couple of paces, her attention set right on my dick.

“Wank it,” my mother said as she glanced at my face. “Go on,” she urged as I boggled in shock.

 

[MotherloverSon]

Love it! If there could be a porn movie called "Moms Who Seduce," I would buy it, lol.

 

[MotherloverSon]

Here's a pervy thought: a suppressed academic article is found. "Do Mother Lovers Make Better Lovers? The Surprising Positive Influences of Mother-Son Incest." "Mothers who had sexual relationships with their sons had higher self-esteem, greater self-confidence, and more sexual satisfaction...sons who had sexual relationships with their mothers reported closer bonds with female partners (whether mothers, girlfriends, and wives), a greater desire to please their partners sexually. more egalitarian ideas about heterosexual relationships, and more positive attitudes towards women in general....Female partners of sons who had sexual relationships with their mother reported greater relationship satisfaction, closer emotional bonds with their male partners, higher self-esteem, higher sexual satisfaction, and a partner more willing to please them sexually. These positive outcomes occurred whether or not the female partner was aware of the mother-son relationship and whether or not the relationship was ongoing" The authors conclude, "We may want to reconsider the societal stigma attached to incest, at least in the case of mothers and sons. Given the strong correlation between mother-son sex and positive life outcomes, we may want to explore encouraging these relationships."