Another Ice Age?

[Zeb_Carter]

It's 1974.

On June 24th Time Magazine comes out with an article titled "Another Ice Age?"

Present Day

Today the rage is all about global warming.
I wonder what the rage will be in another 32 years?

 

[Aurora Black]

It's 1974.

On June 24th Time Magazine comes out with an article titled "Another Ice Age?"

Present Day

Today the rage is all about global warming.
I wonder what the rage will be in another 32 years?

The ancient Mayans predicted that the world will end on December 23, 2012. So...

 

[Zeb_Carter]

The ancient Mayans predicted that the world will end on December 23, 2012. So...

Hmmmm...theirs ended a little sooner than that didn't it?

 

[OhMissScarlett]

We should call it "Ice Age 2: The Meltdown"

Wait, is that already taken?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

We should call it "Ice Age 2: The Meltdown"

Wait, is that already taken?

Disney would have our ass if we did that!

 

[Liar]

Oh no, not another sequel.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Oh no, not another sequel.

Actually, no! A prequel!

 

[Guest]

Hmmmm...theirs [Mayans] ended a little sooner than that didn't it?

When I toured Chitzen Itza, someone asked the guide (a very opinionated, abrasive man -- a wonderful guide) what had become of the Mayans.

"Perhaps you noticed the large village you came through today? Achaeology evidence says it was founded about the time the city was abandoned."

 

[Zeb_Carter]

When I toured Chitzen Itza, someone asked the guide (a very opinionated, abrasive man -- a wonderful guide) what had become of the Mayans.

"Perhaps you noticed the large village you came through today? Achaeology evidence says it was founded about the time the city was abandoned."

No one said they all died, just that their world ended. There is a difference, no?

 

[Guest]

No one said they all died, just that their world ended. There is a difference, no?

Or maybe they moved it all underground or off-planet in preparation of the 2012 deadline?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Or maybe they moved it all underground or off-planet in preparation of the 2012 deadline?

Was there a comet involved?

 

[Guest]

Was there a comet involved?

Only to clean the bathrooms on the space ships.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Only to clean the bathrooms on the space ships.

Ah...spic and span then?

 

[Guest]

Ah...spic and span then?

Yeah, a comet didn't hit the earth, but a giant can of spic and span did, leading Time to think a New Ice age was starting. Instead of snow, the white power was just Spin N Span.

 

[Liar]

It's 1974.

On June 24th Time Magazine comes out with an article titled "Another Ice Age?"

Present Day

Today the rage is all about global warming.
I wonder what the rage will be in another 32 years?

Ok, since I can't resist, here comes the science. Or rather the second-hand science as it was explained to me.

Heading towards global warming and heading towards an ice age doesn't contradict. In fact, one might cause the other. Raising the temperature by X desgrees might destabilize the oceanic currents, which could lead to an ice age in the longer run. As you see it's all just a bunch of mights and coulds though. It might also go some other way depending on an eternity of variables. But climatologists seem to think of it as a fully plausible scenario.

Makes sense to me. If the Gulf stream were to stop or reverse, nothern Europe would be a popsicle.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Ok, since I can't resist, here comes the science. Or rather the second-hand science as it was explained to me.

Heading towards global warming and heading towards an ice age doesn't contradict. In fact, one might cause the other. Raising the temperature by X desgrees might destabilize the oceanic currents, which could lead to an ice age in the longer run. As you see it's all just a bunch of mights and coulds though. It might also go some other way depending on an eternity of variables. But climatologists seem to think of it as a fully plausible scenario.

Makes sense to me. If the Gulf stream were to stop or reverse, nothern Europe would be a popsicle.

And if the world stopped spinning we would...have to move.

 

[Liar]

And if the world stopped spinning we would...have to move.

And if the Grelzaks are invading we would...get probed.

Your point being?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

And if the Grelzaks are invading we would...get probed.

Your point being?

That everything is relative. Depending on how you look at things it's either or. So Global (Cooling/Warming) is a matter of perspective and how the weather patterns are being inturperted by the science folks. And as they all can never agree on what the hell is going on, how would we common folk know?

 

[3113]

That everything is relative. Depending on how you look at things it's either or. So Global (Cooling/Warming) is a matter of perspective and how the weather patterns are being inturperted by the science folks. And as they all can never agree on what the hell is going on, how would we common folk know?

Sorry dude, but they DO agree. Those with science degrees ALL agree. It's the folk without science degrees but who are making a lot of money maintaining the status quo that don't WANT you to know that the science folk are all in agreement. They want you to think that everyone is in disagreement and it's all up-in-the-air. That way they get you saying, "Oh, it's just the latest fad, we can ignore it. They'll predict something else in a few years...la-de-da...."

Sorry to burst your little bubble there...but as much as science can say, "Yes, this IS what is happening and YES this is the most likely outcomes..." it has said that.

Now, of course, nothing is every absolute in science. This isn't religion, after all. Who knows what kind of metor might strike the Earth and change everything. But if we keep going as we are, odds are we'll warm up, melt the ice, shut down the jet stream and end up in an ice age. Before that happens, things will go to shit. After it happens, things will really go to shit.

Believe it or not as you please, but I'm afraid you can't call this a "fad." It's science and it's been studied and confirmed by the facts, over and over again for the last 30 years.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Sorry dude, but they DO agree. Those with science degrees ALL agree. It's the folk without science degrees but who are making a lot of money maintaining the status quo that don't WANT you to know that the science folk are all in agreement. They want you to think that everyone is in disagreement and it's all up-in-the-air. That way they get you saying, "Oh, it's just the latest fad, we can ignore it. They'll predict something else in a few years...la-de-da...."

Sorry to burst your little bubble there...but as much as science can say, "Yes, this IS what is happening and YES this is the most likely outcomes..." it has said that.

Now, of course, nothing is every absolute in science. This isn't religion, after all. Who knows what kind of metor might strike the Earth and change everything. But if we keep going as we are, odds are we'll warm up, melt the ice, shut down the jet stream and end up in an ice age. Before that happens, things will go to shit. After it happens, things will really go to shit.

Believe it or not as you please, but I'm afraid you can't call this a "fad." It's science and it's been studied and confirmed by the facts, over and over again for the last 30 years.

Sorry dudette, but do you have any sources to back up you statement of 'All' or have you poled every climatologist in the world?

And in 32 years I bet science advances by leaps and bounds and everyone with a degree realizes it was a fade, just like bell bottom pants and nayru jackets.

 

[Guest]

There have been 7 glacial advances and retreats in the past 125 million years, give or take. One of the current theories behind this is because our sun is a variable star, with increases and decreases of brightness over the years, and the variable amounts of solar radiation raised and lowered temperatures.

Glaciers form where there are periods of ice year-round. They form in areas of high altitude and high latitude. Normally. They increase when something causes global temperatures to drop, and the greater their size, the more they will move.

The movement is because of the pressure of the immense weight. As they move, they have a dramatic effect upon the land. For instance, the Great Lakes were formed by glaciers.

In Kansas it is possible to drive along the major highway (I-70) and see the glacial moraine (the stuff dropped by the melting glaciers). Glacial moraine is very similar to the big piles of dirt and debris left after the huge mountains of snow that snowplows leave in parking lots melt.

The rocks that remain after glaciers melt have slickensides, scratched sides that show how they were dragged across the terrain as the glacier moved.

Here ends the glacial lesson for the day. My husband thanks you for your attention.

Now. Back to smut!

 

[Zeb_Carter]

This was a fun thread until it was ruined by real science and stuff!

 

[Tom Collins]

That everything is relative. Depending on how you look at things it's either or. So Global (Cooling/Warming) is a matter of perspective and how the weather patterns are being inturperted by the science folks. And as they all can never agree on what the hell is going on, how would we common folk know?

I guess you'll know if you find icycles dangling from your nads in Alabama in the middle of July, eh?

 

[Guest]

Oh, for heaven's sake. I checked out that link.

A blog?

NewsBusters? Exposing and Combating Liberal Media Bias??

Why do the uninformed and uneducated try with so much energy to tear down matters of science? Why?

Science is fluid, ever-changing. It HAS to be. The more we learn, study, observe, test, retest, the more we KNOW. But that knowledge changes every damn day. And it should.

We used to think the fucking world was flat. We learned. We grew.

We used to think that demons and evil spirits caused sickness and disease. We figured that one out, too.

There is so much growth in medical science it amazes me. My children are four years apart in age and the treatment for their various childhood illnesses actually adjusted between the two kids. The chickenpox (varicella) vaccine is available now, and it wasn't 15 years ago.

Science doesn't have every answer and they never pretend that they do. The joy is in the discovery, the path, the learning.

Compare that to a TV evangelist or a president, for fuck's sake.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I guess you'll know if you find icycles dangling from your nads in Alabama in the middle of July, eh?

I don't go to Alabama, I know better. You could find icycles dangling from your nads in the middle of July if some of them rednecks get a hold of you wandering around in the back woods.