Another Child

[oceanbaby28]

Left in a car for 8 hrs.

I just heard it on the news. I'd be lying if I didn't say my heart is breaking for the family AND the poor man that left the child there.

Apparently he (grandfather) picked the child up and was suppose to bring it somewhere (probably daycare), forgot and went to work... he came back to his car after work and found the child dead. I can't imagine the guilt he's feeling right now, nor the anguish the parents must be going through.

 

[Mischka]

The poor man? How does one forget about a living, breathing child in the car? He even ran an errand in the middle of the day and still didn't notice her in the backseat.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/13/toddler.car.death.ap/index.html

 

[Purrde Flower]

Does he suffer from memory loss? I hope so. If not may he rot in hell.

 

[brokenbrainwave]

jesus, I just dont get it. I agree with Mish, how does one forget there is a damn child in the fucking car??? lapses of judgement is not a valid defense in this case and I hope he is in torment.

 

[oceanbaby28]

My first impulse was to think the same

The poor man? How does one forget about a living, breathing child in the car? He even ran an errand in the middle of the day and still didn't notice her in the backseat.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/13/toddler.car.death.ap/index.html

But we don't know everything about him do we? Does he have some illness?

 

[CoolidgEffect]

jesus, I just dont get it. I agree with Mish, how does one forget there is a damn child in the fucking car??? lapses of judgement is not a valid defense in this case and I hope he is in torment.

I can't believe it was just a lapse in judgement. All I can say is it is a complete nightmare!

 

[brokenbrainwave]

Re: My first impulse was to think the same

But we don't know everything about him do we? Does he have some illness?

we know he killed a defenseless child

 

[Mischka]

Re: My first impulse was to think the same

But we don't know everything about him do we? Does he have some illness?

Then why was he alone with the child in the first place?

 

[Purrde Flower]

This could be totaly wrong and Im only defending the man cause I think anyone who would do that has a serious problem..

Say he picked up the baby.. was driving around and the baby falls asleep.. The grandfather with a memory illness forgets there is anyone but him in the car and goes about his normal routine. Routine is good for some people with memory illnesses. Anyhting out of the routine may be forgotten. IF INDDED this man does have a problem like this it's the parents fault also for allowing their child to be picked up by someone like this.


And if he doesn't have a problem may he rot in hell along with all the other baby killers.

 

[oceanbaby28]

Exactly...

I can't believe it was just a lapse in judgement. All I can say is it is a complete nightmare!

Anyway you look at it, it's horrible.

I've worked with ppl that had memory loss or Alzheimer's and that was one of the first things that came to my mind... but then again... would he be driving and working? Who knows. It's just bad all the way around. Senseless.

 

[CoolidgEffect]

Re: Re: My first impulse was to think the same

we know he killed a defenseless child

Yes he killed his grandchild. I doubt he is taking it lightly. If there was a lack of judgement I suspect it might lay with the parents in trusting their child to the grandfather.

 

[brokenbrainwave]

and to think I raised hell with my mom for not rolling her ass out of bed and allowing a ten yr old to watch my boys the last time they were over there. I cant imagine what I would be capable of in this case

 

[brokenbrainwave]

Re: Re: Re: My first impulse was to think the same

Yes he killed his grandchild. I doubt he is taking it lightly. If there was a lack of judgement I suspect it might lay with the parents in trusting their child to the grandfather.

I have no trouble lumping mom and dad into the cheese grater and turning it on either....

 

[CoolidgEffect]

Re: Exactly...

Anyway you look at it, it's horrible.

I've worked with ppl that had memory loss or Alzheimer's and that was one of the first things that came to my mind... but then again... would he be driving and working? Who knows. It's just bad all the way around. Senseless.

Yeah. Like I said in my post. I wonder if the parents had any clue that he had any dementia. Strange things happen, but I can believe a healthy person would "forget" their grandchild in their car all day.

 

[brokenbrainwave]

This could be totaly wrong and Im only defending the man cause I think anyone who would do that has a serious problem..

Say he picked up the baby.. was driving around and the baby falls asleep.. The grandfather with a memory illness forgets there is anyone but him in the car and goes about his normal routine. Routine is good for some people with memory illnesses. Anyhting out of the routine may be forgotten. IF INDDED this man does have a problem like this it's the parents fault also for allowing their child to be picked up by someone like this.


And if he doesn't have a problem may he rot in hell along with all the other baby killers.

in this situation, if it is the cause then mom and dad should be jailed for the endangerment of their child.

 

[oceanbaby28]

I'm sure the state will have a field day with that one...

in this situation, if it is the cause then mom and dad should be jailed for the endangerment of their child.

If they find he's got some form of dementia...

Remember that alot of times these things start off really slowly and aren't noticable right away. We tend to just shake them off until they become too many and too frequent.

God I remember a few weeks ago, being soooo busy with things I needed to do & remember that I drove right past the place I needed to be. It's not an excuse or way of making this any less than what it is. I have 2 kids as well and trust me I'd be beside myself with anger were this to happen with mine.

 

[brokenbrainwave]

ocean are you really equating forgetting to make a stop to forgetting a child is in the car? come on now, that is not even close! we all forget things, I sometimes forget to get off the puter and start dinner on time, but thats not even close to this.

 

[intrigued]

Re: Re: Exactly...

Yeah. Like I said in my post. I wonder if the parents had any clue that he had any dementia. Strange things happen, but I can believe a healthy person would "forget" their grandchild in their car all day.

You make an excellent point. Its one thing to forget for a moment or two. We've all had times of being too rushed, too harried, just too much on our minds. I remember years ago when my son was a baby, I was bringing groceries in from the car, the phone rang, and it was something work related. I sat there talking and talking for 5 or 6 minutes, when it hit me. OMG. I felt like total scum.
But I am NOT. I am human. So, yes...I can see the man forgetting briefly, but not for an entire day.

Dear God...

 

[oceanbaby28]

No I'm not...

ocean are you really equating forgetting to make a stop to forgetting a child is in the car? come on now, that is not even close! we all forget things, I sometimes forget to get off the puter and start dinner on time, but thats not even close to this.

I'm just trying to understand this as much as any of you are.

 

[Debbie]

I feel sick, another child dead.
I don't give a poop what the Grandfather's situation was. Most two year old's chatter incessently. The child may have fallen asleep, blah blah scenario. He ran an errand and didn't see her in the back of the car?
The grandfather could have had an illness. Then the parents should not have entrusted their child with him. Whatever.
The poor fucking kid is dead and nothing will bring that child back again EVER.
I am sick of excuses being made for neglect/abuse the death of children.
Rest in peace little one.

 

[Rubyfruit]

I'm just sick to my stomach and my heart goes out to that entire family.

 

[CoolidgEffect]

I feel sick, another child dead.
I don't give a poop what the Grandfather's situation was. Most two year old's chatter incessently. The child may have fallen asleep, blah blah scenario. He ran an errand and didn't see her in the back of the car?
The grandfather could have had an illness. Then the parents should not have entrusted their child with him. Whatever.
The poor fucking kid is dead and nothing will bring that child back again EVER.
I am sick of excuses being made for neglect/abuse the death of children.
Rest in peace little one.

Life is precious and this is a tragedy. A nightmare for a parent. I am not making excuses. I just don't find pointing fingers to be very constructive.

My heart goes out to the family.

 

[Bigdog]

I'm not buying the diminished capacity excuse for one minute.

He has the mental faculties to drive various places, holds a job of some sort, remembers to get the car serviced (and by whom), and can find his way home. But he can't remember his own grandchild is in the car? Or can't SEE the child any of the times he got in or out of the car?

This man isn't incapacitated, he's just criminally stupid.

 

[Purrde Flower]

My grandmother 6 months before she died drove to the grocery store which was about 30 minutes away. Before she left, my brother and i were there aloing with my grandfather.. You would have known nothing was wrong with her when she left..

Well about 7 hours later we got a call from the police department about 200 miles away. My grandmother drove there, couldn't remeber who she was.. got lost after she parklet her car not more than 100 yards from her, sat down at a bus station and cried.

Now Im not saying this man sufferes from anyhting as severe as this. But old people when taken out of their normal routine DO forget th ings if they have a memory problem.

 

[oceanbaby28]

I'm sorry everyone...

I feel like I've stirred up a hornet's nest.

My original reason for posting this was because I just couldn't understand how it could happen. I was aching inside from just trying to put myself in anyone of those ppl's shoes. And maybe I didn't exactly state myself in the best of ways...

bottom line of the whole matter is...

Another child is gone.



As someone earlier stated...

Rest in peace sweet child, rest in peace.