Anonymous Negative Comments for Cuckold/Hot Wife/Stag stories/

[Somehowyou]

I enjoy reading hotwife/cuckold/stag stories. There is something primal about these stories that I happen to like. After reading a very clever, erotic story, I tend to leave a comment to let the author know how much I appreciate their time and effort and to let them know that I enjoyed it. These stories really seem to touch a nerve on people that hate them. There seems to be a cultish following of anonymous commenters that proceed to say something like that the story was low grade crap and they they gave it one star. Why bother?

Here's the thing: I don't care for romance stories so guess what? I don't bother to read them. If romance stories is what you like, then more power to you. Enjoy reading and writing them. I promise I will not troll these genres of stories because I'm not interested in them. Why do "haters" feel the need to troll the Hotwife stories? Why are they trying to discourage them from being written? In fact, trolls spend so much time reading this genre, I have a theory. I think they may be projecting? Maybe, deep down, these stories excite these trolls and they don't understand why. They read them, and jack off till their sex organ is raw and then, leave a nasty comment because they feel guilty.

There is nothing that bores me more than reading about vanilla sex by some single woman that finds her prince charming. But you know what? If I come across these stories I just move on.

 

[XerXesXu]

I have a theory. I think they may be projecting? Maybe, deep down, these stories excite these trolls and they don't understand why. They read them, and jack off till their sex organ is raw and then, leave a nasty comment because they feel guilty.
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Yes, they may be cathartic/penitential rituals for those seeking to purge their moral dissonance, some of them, probably. Some may be moral crusaders, calling-out sin. ‘Silence is complicity’ is a popular meme these days. Maybe they log onto Lit when they return from church, all fired up by their pastor. They seek out sin (and incidentally enjoy it) then virtuously call it out. Eating their cake and having it, what could be more fun.

These are speculative explanations of their peculiar behaviour, but they’re anonymous, we’ll never know. And, if they can project, so can we.

 

[Somehowyou]

Thank you XerXisXu. By the way, I'm not arguing that these types of relationships are healthy. I'm just saying that that these stories are very erotic. Can you not appreciate the eroticism of these stories and at the same time not want to live your life like this?

Some people live out this life style. Good for them. My best friend confided in me that he and his wife are nudists. For my friend and his wife, going to one of these resorts and being watched is enough. They do not swap. I used to make pillow talk with my wife about her imaginary lover. It was hot. I've never seen a man that was dumped just able to let his wife or girlfriend go. They are typically tortured by the thought and cannot make love to anyone new until a period of time has passed and they have in effect, been "detoxed." They sit home and rub themselves raw and would take their partners back unconditionally, until the left-side of the brain decides it is no longer worth it and wins the battle over the right side. There is something primal about it. I don't completely understand it. What I understand even less is why there seems to be a cult of Lit users that try to shout these types of stories down. It is a futile exercise.

 

[NotWise]

Thank you XerXisXu. By the way, I'm not arguing that these types of relationships are healthy. I'm just saying that that these stories are very erotic. Can you not appreciate the eroticism of these stories and at the same time not want to live your life like this?

A lot of people entertain fantasies they don't want to realize. From what I've read, that's especially true of women.

The LW turf war is another explanation for people down-voting hotwife, etc, stories. One group of readers thinks they own the category, and they want to exclude the other.

I think a lot of the hotwife/cockold/stag stories could be placed in other categories -- erotic coupling, fetish, or group, for instance. That would avoid the turf war, but it would make the stories harder to find, and the alternative category would not have the readership that LW has.

 

[lovecraft68]

Thank you XerXisXu. By the way, I'm not arguing that these types of relationships are healthy. I'm just saying that that these stories are very erotic. Can you not appreciate the eroticism of these stories and at the same time not want to live your life like this?

Some people live out this life style. Good for them. My best friend confided in me that he and his wife are nudists. For my friend and his wife, going to one of these resorts and being watched is enough. They do not swap. I used to make pillow talk with my wife about her imaginary lover. It was hot. I've never seen a man that was dumped just able to let his wife or girlfriend go. They are typically tortured by the thought and cannot make love to anyone new until a period of time has passed and they have in effect, been "detoxed." They sit home and rub themselves raw and would take their partners back unconditionally, until the left-side of the brain decides it is no longer worth it and wins the battle over the right side. There is something primal about it. I don't completely understand it. What I understand even less is why there seems to be a cult of Lit users that try to shout these types of stories down. It is a futile exercise.

Many people, and I'll echo Notwise in that especially women because they're raised to feel guilty about sex more than men, have these various fantasies, but still see them as wrong and dirty secrets, they read a story or watch a video, become aroused, get off, then when the lust is sated self loathing comes in, and these comments are the rage that follows the self loathing.

But for as many as those types as there are, there are far more who enjoy the fantasies and stories for what they are and can separate reality or don't have those hang ups, they're the majority so focus on them

 

[Somehowyou]

Very well said Lovecraft. I was thinking that it was insecure men that were the anonymous but I just reading in another thread from women that detested this kind of story and they scorn them. And we know the famous line about hell hath no fury.... So maybe they are the vocal cult?

NotWise - Good point. Maybe they should rename it "Wives?"

 

[Winter_Fare]

Personally, I think they enjoy spouting their crap, it gets them off, it empowers them. Not one of these arm chair critics has a story of their own to tell, it's like an massive angry rage wank, but why? Who knows...

If there isn't a whole branch of behavioural psychology about why trolls troll, then there should be.

 

[rescatooor]

A lot of people entertain fantasies they don't want to realize. From what I've read, that's especially true of women.

Really? You think it's primarily women? Interesting. Do you have any comments that would suggest that? I always imagined it to be men.

 

[Andrew1968]

Many of my stories are cuckold/hotwife stories. It is a rich area for fantasy, the erotic, and for forms of mental sado-masochism, if that’s what the reader wants and the writer delivers. It’s very addictive stuff for some people, including myself.

At the moment, I don’t allow anyone to comment on my stories - I was regularly deleting the rude and nasty comments, prior to that. I occasionally receive rude and nasty emailed messages, but they are deleted instantly. My cuckold/hotwife stories regularly get low scores. I expect that and wear it as a badge of pride. Those people, who like cuckold/hotwife stories, surely know the stories they like, will receive a low score. Getting a low score is how I can reach my audience. Low scores act like a magnet for my type of reader, I think.

Cuckold/hotwife stories definitely belong in the Loving Wives category. A husband really only has 3 options, as far as I’m concerned, when a wife is taking on other lovers with his knowledge. He can:

1. Stay married, but put his foot down and end the extramarital relationship, or
2. He can end his marriage and move on, or
3. Stay married and more or less accept his wife will have other lovers.

If the husband stays married and more or less accepts his wife will have other lovers, then he has made a decision to share his wife with someone else. The Loving Wives category is about wife-sharing, so cuckold/hotwife stories belong in the Loving Wives category.

The LW category is a war zone between people, on the one hand, who don’t seem to understand that cuckolding/hotwifing is a relatively small phenomenon, amongst a limited number of people, and not a part of any sort of worldwide attempt, by whomever, to destroy traditional masculinity and, on the other hand, a group of people who just love watching/reading about their/others wives getting fucked by hot men and getting off on the delicious humiliation of it all.

Anyway, let the battle continue in Loving Wives between the opposing sides. It gives the whole category its edge.

 

[NotWise]

Really? You think it's primarily women? Interesting. Do you have any comments that would suggest that? I always imagined it to be men.

I didn't say it was primarily women. I said it was particularly common among women. This wasn't from comments. It was from on-line research into sexual fantasies. I don't have the reference but I believe it was from a survey in a published scientific article.

The gist of it was that both men and women entertain sexual fantasies, but men were far more likely than women to also say that they would realize their fantasies if they had an opportunity.

An example is the rape fantasy, which is fairly common among women (and probably for many different reasons), but hardly any woman actually wants to be raped.

 

[Somehowyou]

Many of my stories are cuckold/hotwife stories. It is a rich area for fantasy, the erotic, and for forms of mental sado-masochism, if that’s what the reader wants and the writer delivers. It’s very addictive stuff for some people, including myself.

At the moment, I don’t allow anyone to comment on my stories - I was regularly deleting the rude and nasty comments, prior to that. I occasionally receive rude and nasty emailed messages, but they are deleted instantly. My cuckold/hotwife stories regularly get low scores. I expect that and wear it as a badge of pride. Those people, who like cuckold/hotwife stories, surely know the stories they like, will receive a low score. Getting a low score is how I can reach my audience. Low scores act like a magnet for my type of reader, I think.


Anyway, let the battle continue in Loving Wives between the opposing sides. It gives the whole category its edge.

Andrew - I thought that there may be a link to your stories but I cannot find them in your profile. I would like to follow you and support you if I could. Yes, I'm addicted to them. I also like incest, particularly Mother-Son and I cannot even explain why. My mother (God rest her soul) and I did not even get along. There was not one day on this planet that I would of liked to be with her in that way. Every once in awhile daddy/daughter can be nice. I have very attractive daughters and I can tell you there has not been a single moment that I was ever even remotely attracted to them. Not a second! It just goes to show you that people can be attracted to stories that they would never, ever, want to happen in real life.

I didn't say it was primarily women. I said it was particularly common among...

An example is the rape fantasy, which is fairly common among women (and probably for many different reasons), but hardly any woman actually wants to be raped.

I had a session in Montreal with an escort. I started to talk dirty during our session and then she got soooo into the sex she started saying things like "and you want me to fuck your friends...." She put my hands on her neck so that I could choke her. I went with it and we had the hottest session. After the sex I asked her what was that all about (having me lightly choke her)? She answered the following:

Her: "You know how all woman have rape fantasies?"

Me: "All woman have rape fantasies?"

Her: "Well 85% of us do..."

Me: "I had no idea..."

Her: "I thought you were so vanilla when you opened that door..."

I guess it's pretty common.

 

[RoperTrace]

Andrew - I thought that there may be a link to your stories but I cannot find them in your profile. I would like to follow you and support you if I could. Yes, I'm addicted to them. I also like incest, particularly Mother-Son and I cannot even explain why. My mother (God rest her soul) and I did not even get along. There was not one day on this planet that I would of liked to be with her in that way. Every once in awhile daddy/daughter can be nice. I have very attractive daughters and I can tell you there has not been a single moment that I was ever even remotely attracted to them. Not a second! It just goes to show you that people can be attracted to stories that they would never, ever, want to happen in real life.



I had a session in Montreal with an escort. I started to talk dirty during our session and then she got soooo into the sex she started saying things like "and you want me to fuck your friends...." She put my hands on her neck so that I could choke her. I went with it and we had the hottest session. After the sex I asked her what was that all about (having me lightly choke her)? She answered the following:

Her: "You know how all woman have rape fantasies?"

Me: "All woman have rape fantasies?"

Her: "Well 85% of us do..."

Me: "I had no idea..."

Her: "I thought you were so vanilla when you opened that door..."

I guess it's pretty common.

Just curious, after your escort "got into the sex" by talking dirty asking you about doing your friends, did that affect the amount of tip you gave her?
I have to agree about your comments about never(ever) thinking about an incestuous relationship with your mother or daughter(s), but still like to read about it. Before I came to Lit.com, I was fairly anti-incest, but after reading some stories here over several years changed my views on it as a fantasy. For me, it's more interesting thinking about aunts or cousins, or the old reliable mother-in-law, only not mine.
I would think that 85% of women having the rape fantasy is a bit high, but if you included gang-bang fantasy, then the combination might be close.

 

[Lifestyle66]

M ... The LW category is a war zone between people, on the one hand, who don’t seem to understand that cuckolding/hotwifing is a relatively small phenomenon, amongst a limited number of people, and not a part of any sort of worldwide attempt, by whomever, to destroy traditional masculinity and, on the other hand, a group of people who just love watching/reading about their/others wives getting fucked by hot men and getting off on the delicious humiliation of it all.



I disagree that sharing a spouse is a choice between either destroying masculinity or accepting humiliation. There are other options, such as a mutual decision to watch each other for later reliving the experience together, or even enjoying seeing your spouse receiving pleasure.

It's a destructive relationship if one partner is deliberately and knowingly inflicting emotional pain of their spouse. But, that is not always the case.

Your statement is one of the LW negatives assuming you know it all, and that LW stories are by definition negative relationships.

 

[SimonDoom]

Yes, they may be cathartic/penitential rituals for those seeking to purge their moral dissonance, some of them, probably. Some may be moral crusaders, calling-out sin. ‘Silence is complicity’ is a popular meme these days. Maybe they log onto Lit when they return from church, all fired up by their pastor. They seek out sin (and incidentally enjoy it) then virtuously call it out. Eating their cake and having it, what could be more fun.

These are speculative explanations of their peculiar behaviour, but they’re anonymous, we’ll never know. And, if they can project, so can we.

I think this is well said, and I agree with you, although I'm just speculating, like you.

One of the interesting things about the BTB folks is that they are extremely vocal in leaving nasty comments, but you rarely see them participating in and discussing their views in the Hangout.

 

[policywank]

A lot of people entertain fantasies they don't want to realize. From what I've read, that's especially true of women.

The LW turf war is another explanation for people down-voting hotwife, etc, stories. One group of readers thinks they own the category, and they want to exclude the other.

I think a lot of the hotwife/cockold/stag stories could be placed in other categories -- erotic coupling, fetish, or group, for instance. That would avoid the turf war, but it would make the stories harder to find, and the alternative category would not have the readership that LW has.

I get a lot of comments saying my hot wife stories should be in another category. If Lit wanted to create another category and have me post my stories there that would be fine with me. But I think that argument (at least in the comments that have been made to me) is mostly just a nonsensical excuse to troll. The title my stories, the key word references and the frequent up-front disclaimers leave no doubt as to the subject matter and nobody eyes are too delicate to even pass over a story that isn't to their liking should be on an adult erotica site.

 

[Somehowyou]

I get a lot of comments saying my hot wife stories should be in another category. If Lit wanted to create another category and have me post my stories there that would be fine with me. But I think that argument (at least in the comments that have been made to me) is mostly just a nonsensical excuse to troll. The title my stories, the key word references and the frequent up-front disclaimers leave no doubt as to the subject matter and nobody eyes are too delicate to even pass over a story that isn't to their liking should be on an adult erotica site.

I love this comment. I don't understand anything about hotwifing/cuck stories. I know that I would prefer not to live my life like this at least 99.9% of the time. I know the lifestyle can be dangerous. I only have a vague hypothesis of why they excite me. Most of all, I don't understand the need to troll and hate these stories. It reminds me of the line in Shakespeare: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
I bet that secretly, these stories thrill many of them but test their manhood just like the closet cocksuckers that they are...but that's just another hypothesis. I just want to shake them and say "Come on. This is Literotica.com."

 

[Somehowyou]

One of the interesting things about the BTB folks is that they are extremely vocal in leaving nasty comments, but you rarely see them participating in and discussing their views in the Hangout.

Well said. That's why I think it may be a cult or at least it's cultish anyway. How many anon negative commenters are the same zealot posting over and over again.

 

[MajorRewrite]

The Loving Wives category is mostly filled with 2 types of stories: cucks and BTB/revenge. It’s easy to see why the revenge crowd are openly antagonistic of the cucks. Attacking and lashing out are what they get off on.

That said, there is a third path that isn’t attacked by either of the two main groups. Stories about wayward wives that are told from the perspective of the “other man”! Both of my LW stories are told from that perspective, and the comments are mainly positive (overwhelmingly so for my newest story… I’m quite proud of that).

I encourage others who are thinking about telling a cheating wife story to tell it from the other man’s perspective, NOT from the husband or wife’s perspective. It enables some fun storytelling and the readers won’t feel the need to lash out.

 

[policywank]

The Loving Wives category is mostly filled with 2 types of stories: cucks and BTB/revenge. It’s easy to see why the revenge crowd are openly antagonistic of the cucks. Attacking and lashing out are what they get off on.

That said, there is a third path that isn’t attacked by either of the two main groups. Stories about wayward wives that are told from the perspective of the “other man”! Both of my LW stories are told from that perspective, and the comments are mainly positive (overwhelmingly so for my newest story… I’m quite proud of that).

I encourage others who are thinking about telling a cheating wife story to tell it from the other man’s perspective, NOT from the husband or wife’s perspective. It enables some fun storytelling and the readers won’t feel the need to lash out.

I hear you, but I don't write for the ratings, at least not the ratings of the majority.

As near as I can tell based upon the frequency of "favourites" and the upward trend of ratings after the "1" bombers lose interest, there are lots of people who rate these stories highly. It is just that the ratings get averaged down by those who rate them low. Even if I set aside the vitriol that suggests some of those who rate them lower are doing so maliciously, why should I care about them?

If everyone rated my stories a '3' that suggests a universal view that they are mediocre. That still doesn't mean I should change the way I write, but it does suggest a less than favourable objective assessment. But if 1/2 of my readers rate my stories a '5' and the other 1/2 rate them a '1' (which of course averages out to '3') then I would say that I have found my audience. Why would I dilute the content appreciated by my audience to assuage those who don't appreciate my writing. I am seeking an audience that appreciates my stories, not maximum popularity.

Beyond that if you actually look at the comments left by most of the trolls it is clear that they aren't critiquing the writing so much as the subject matter or the characters. Others have made the point about how stupid it is to keep coming back to a genre you hate and criticizing it on that basis alone. But I am also frequently surprised by the way some readers will get hung up on the characters as if they simply cannot accept a story that doesn't follow a predictable formula. I know some of the characters aren't likeable or relatable and the actions they take are as upsetting as they are titillating. That is what I am exploring.

 

[MajorRewrite]

I hear you, but I don't write for the ratings, at least not the ratings of the majority.

I know some of the characters aren't likeable or relatable and the actions they take are as upsetting as they are titillating. That is what I am exploring.

I don’t think I write for ratings either, but I certainly don’t try to upset the reader either. I’m just trying to create hot and fun stories. For me that means writing from the perspective of the “other man” who’s fucking a wayward wife rather than from the perspective of a “cuck” sitting in a corner watching some other guy fuck.

That’s just the way my fantasies lean. To each his own!

 

[Lifestyle66]

... I don't write for the ratings, at least not the ratings of the majority. ... I know some of the characters aren't likeable or relatable and the actions they take are as upsetting as they are titillating. That is what I am exploring.

While I don't necessarily write for the ratings, excessively low ratings would discourage readers from even opening my work. Comments left by the trolls such as "More Cuck Shit. Avoid!" don't encourage wider distribution, either.

So, the trolls do have an impact on the popularity by discouraging potential readers, just as a popular movie critic can destroy an otherwise good movie by posting a bad review. My stories have approx 6,000 readers. Higher ratings and positive (or at least non-negative) comments might give me a larger audience. (Of course, if I learn to write better, that would help even more. LOL).

 

[Lifestyle66]

The Loving Wives category is mostly filled with 2 types of stories: cucks and BTB/revenge.... That said, there is a third path that isn’t attacked by either of the two main groups. ...

The Loving Wives category description also lends itself to the swinger crowd of consensual sharing. That goes beyond the cuck, BTB/revenge, and even you other man POV.

My personal pref is to watch see a wife enjoying what she wants, and her feeling the same in wanting to watch the husband's expressions from a different perspective when having fun. It doesn't need to be a one-sided or negative relationship.

 

[SimonDoom]

The Loving Wives category is mostly filled with 2 types of stories: cucks and BTB/revenge. It’s easy to see why the revenge crowd are openly antagonistic of the cucks. Attacking and lashing out are what they get off on.

That said, there is a third path that isn’t attacked by either of the two main groups. Stories about wayward wives that are told from the perspective of the “other man”! Both of my LW stories are told from that perspective, and the comments are mainly positive (overwhelmingly so for my newest story… I’m quite proud of that).

I encourage others who are thinking about telling a cheating wife story to tell it from the other man’s perspective, NOT from the husband or wife’s perspective. It enables some fun storytelling and the readers won’t feel the need to lash out.

This is a very intriguing idea.

I've seen a version of this elsewhere -- in the Incest category. Many stories feature son as a kind of bull and Dad as a kind of cuck, who is replaced in Mom's affection by the son. Yet I can't recall anyone complaining. That dynamic seems to have slipped the attention of the BTB crowd.

 

[lovecraft68]

This is a very intriguing idea.

I've seen a version of this elsewhere -- in the Incest category. Many stories feature son as a kind of bull and Dad as a kind of cuck, who is replaced in Mom's affection by the son. Yet I can't recall anyone complaining. That dynamic seems to have slipped the attention of the BTB crowd.

Not entirely, I get comments here and there about Mom's a cheating whore, Dad's a cuck etc...

I also get the 'real men' blathering about how the sons or young men in my milf stories are 'simps" because they seem to think a 20 year old boy can sexually take charge of a 40+ year old sexually experienced woman...hey, maybe a few can. but its not the norm, but when dealing with needle dicks with low self esteem this is what they whine about.

See some with sibs stories too, sister's a slut etc...not as often though.

The BTB turds do get out of the cat box from time to time.

 

[SimonDoom]

Not entirely, I get comments here and there about Mom's a cheating whore, Dad's a cuck etc...

I also get the 'real men' blathering about how the sons or young men in my milf stories are 'simps" because they seem to think a 20 year old boy can sexually take charge of a 40+ year old sexually experienced woman...hey, maybe a few can. but its not the norm, but when dealing with needle dicks with low self esteem this is what they whine about.

See some with sibs stories too, sister's a slut etc...not as often though.

The BTB turds do get out of the cat box from time to time.

It's much rarer, I think.

I post hotwife stories in E&V and only get the very occasional "cuck" comment. It happens, but not like it does in the festering cesspool.