Annual Nude Day Contest Support Thread

oggbashan said:
It is interesting to see that my scores have reverted to normal - for Og.

Variations on a Nude Theme: 4.42, Votes 19, Views 4045, PCs 8
Washed Away: 4.03, Votes 87, Views 9193, PCs 6

and I shouldn't have submitted a new story during a contest.

Harold Saves Her Husband (Part 1) has 5 votes... Maybe reading 5 Lit pages of a sequel puts the voters off?

Og


I think I sweep will wash away some of those "washed away" votes :)


Harold.... I think 5 lit pages IS daunting... I haven't read it... will go take a look...
 
The Pond is still at 4.49...arghhhh it's got me checking the damn score every half hour or so. Somebody stop the madness. Please!!
 
CapriciousLass said:
I'm curious, what kind of score usually wins this thing?
Best I recall, it usually requires a score in the 4.80 range. It won't do you any good to check the scores of previous winners. After the winners are announced, trolls hit the stories with one-bombs.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
Daniellekitten said:
The Pond is still at 4.49...arghhhh it's got me checking the damn score every half hour or so. Somebody stop the madness. Please!!


you are sooo cute when you beg :devil: ;)
 
Question???

oggbashan said:
Anyone desperate for votes to get to the 25 minimum?

My Variations is several votes short, but because I'm not eligible, that doesn't matter. Whether I have 9 votes or 90 I can't win this time.

Og

Are you people kidding about getting votes? I'm kind of a no-body and entered two stories. 'Zoea' early in the contest. I just checked and it had 198 votes. 'Will It work out' I entered on 7-3-06 and it has 185 votes.
Please understand, I'm not bragging, this is a real question. It's hard to believe less than 25 votes for most of you being known authors and me as one of the other guys.
DG Hear
 
DG Hear said:
Are you people kidding about getting votes? I'm kind of a no-body and entered two stories. 'Zoea' early in the contest. I just checked and it had 198 votes. 'Will It work out' I entered on 7-3-06 and it has 185 votes.
Please understand, I'm not bragging, this is a real question. It's hard to believe less than 25 votes for most of you being known authors and me as one of the other guys.
DG Hear

Mine has only 43 votes.
 
DG Hear said:
Are you people kidding about getting votes? I'm kind of a no-body and entered two stories. 'Zoea' early in the contest. I just checked and it had 198 votes. 'Will It work out' I entered on 7-3-06 and it has 185 votes.
Please understand, I'm not bragging, this is a real question. It's hard to believe less than 25 votes for most of you being known authors and me as one of the other guys.
DG Hear

No. We are not kidding.

Being known can have serious disadvantages as well as advantages.

I am known for being long-winded, having little sex in a story, and usually mild femdom. Not all my stories are like that, but enough are for people to assume that they all are.

So - if you want upfront sex, dominant male, and a short explicit story you would be unlikely to open an Og story.

For different reasons, several AH authors will be unpopular with many readers on Lit - too literary, too much plot, and horror! expecting the reader to think.

That doesn't apply to all of us, and not all of the time. The category of story makes a massive difference to the voting, as does the title and description.

Several of my stories have less than 10 votes even though they have been posted for years. Only a few have more than 25. I wouldn't expect to get the 50 votes necessary to be a contestant in a monthly contest. How many people are going to read 5 Lit pages before they vote?

When I write Incest - then I get votes.

Og

PS: Edited to give examples. Harold Plays the Hero, posted July 2002, has 21 votes. Its sequel Harold Saves Her Husband (Part 1) posted recently, has 7.

Lisa's Adjustable Petticoat (I know. The title puts readers off) also posted July 2002 has 5 votes.

Virgin's Sister (Incest) posted July 2004 has 244 votes.
 
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Thank you for your honesty

oggbashan said:
No. We are not kidding.

Being known can have serious disadvantages as well as advantages.

I am known for being long-winded, having little sex in a story, and usually mild femdom. Not all my stories are like that, but enough are for people to assume that they all are.

So - if you want upfront sex, dominant male, and a short explicit story you would be unlikely to open an Og story.

For different reasons, several AH authors will be unpopular with many readers on Lit - too literary, too much plot, and horror! expecting the reader to think.

That doesn't apply to all of us, and not all of the time. The category of story makes a massive difference to the voting, as does the title and description.

Several of my stories have less than 10 votes even though they have been posted for years. Only a few have more than 25. I wouldn't expect to get the 50 votes necessary to be a contestant in a monthly contest. How many people are going to read 5 Lit pages before they vote?

When I write Incest - then I get votes.

Og

PS: Edited to give examples. Harold Plays the Hero, posted July 2002, has 21 votes. Its sequel Harold Saves Her Husband (Part 1) posted recently, has 7.

Lisa's Adjustable Petticoat (I know. The title puts readers off) also posted July 2002 has 5 votes.

Virgin's Sister (Incest) posted July 2004 has 244 votes.

I have found my highest rated stories are the ones with the least number of readers. Loving wifes and similar ones seem to get the most reads but lower scores. For example the Zoea one whichwas posted last month had over 28,000+. My Romance which I consider better stories. hovel around 5,000 to10,000 or so reads. The voting on both seem to be the same. Every cheating wife story get the comments, hands down but not usually the lowest score. I've been submitting stories for less than a year. So I was rather surprised to read about the vote count. On SOL where I also post, has about a 10% feedback rate, but a lot less readers.
Again thank you for your honesty.
DG Hear
 
my stories tend to accumulate votes, but often gradullly. Over time I have shifted to longer format stories, which tend to get less votes, but higher scores, since mildly unhappy readers will hit "back" on their browser rather than g o on to p 2 or 3 to vote.

I have one story with over 200 votes, but its been out since 2002. I have a couple of chapters of my novella with only 11 votes. I have a freestanding story with only 13 votes.
 
DG Hear said:
I have found my highest rated stories are the ones with the least number of readers. Loving wifes and similar ones seem to get the most reads but lower scores. For example the Zoea one whichwas posted last month had over 28,000+. My Romance which I consider better stories. hovel around 5,000 to10,000 or so reads. The voting on both seem to be the same. Every cheating wife story get the comments, hands down but not usually the lowest score. I've been submitting stories for less than a year. So I was rather surprised to read about the vote count. On SOL where I also post, has about a 10% feedback rate, but a lot less readers.
Again thank you for your honesty.
DG Hear
DG,

You're on the right trail, score-wise. The best way to get a feel for the voting patterns in the different categories is to check-out the TOPS list. For instance: Romance used to be a quiet little category that produced low vote/read totals but fairly high scores. Recently, it's become much more active. Most of the stories at the top of its list are recent entries.

Certain categories, including Romance, have developed a reputation. As you know, Loving Wives is famous for the divided, often abusive feedback. The BDSM crowd is very picky,etc. . The best advice I ever got was to write the story I wanted then submit it to the category where it will piss off the fewest people--that is unless pissing readers off turns your crank.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
Pissing off people

Rumple Foreskin said:
DG,

You're on the right trail, score-wise. The best way to get a feel for the voting patterns in the different categories is to check-out the TOPS list. For instance: Romance used to be a quiet little category that produced low vote/read totals but fairly high scores. Recently, it's become much more active. Most of the stories at the top of its list are recent entries.

Certain categories, including Romance, have developed a reputation. As you know, Loving Wives is famous for the divided, often abusive feedback. The BDSM crowd is very picky,etc. . The best advice I ever got was to write the story I wanted then submit it to the category where it will piss off the fewest people--that is unless pissing readers off turns your crank.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:

Hey Rump, if I may call you that? I'm known to piss off people. I like high scores as much as the next writer, but I write what I want. Wherever my mood may take me. I do warn people some of the time but it doesn't do much good. They read it then complain anyway. I guess my grivence, if you want to call it that is that the stories I feel strongly about, just don't get the readers. When you put the time in and write what you think is really good and carry above a 4.80+ rating, you wonder why you don't get the readers. I write some wierd ass fuck my wife story and get 20,000 plus reads (al-be-it a low score, and lots of comments.
Excuse my spouting off but I guess that's why we have this site.
DG Hear
 
DG Hear said:
Hey Rump, if I may call you that? I'm known to piss off people. I like high scores as much as the next writer, but I write what I want. Wherever my mood may take me. I do warn people some of the time but it doesn't do much good. They read it then complain anyway. I guess my grivence, if you want to call it that is that the stories I feel strongly about, just don't get the readers. When you put the time in and write what you think is really good and carry above a 4.80+ rating, you wonder why you don't get the readers. I write some wierd ass fuck my wife story and get 20,000 plus reads (al-be-it a low score, and lots of comments.
Excuse my spouting off but I guess that's why we have this site.
DG Hear
It's all a balancing act. I post in the same places as you. I don't write something I wouldn't believe in, but do have prereaders to let me know if something I wrote will annoy the general public. Then I decide if it's something I'm willing to live with. I just got back a tough criticism of my next story where I try to reveal things slowly, which gave my editor the wrong impression of my characters (and she let me know she wouldn't be the only one). Now I have to decide if it's more important to surprise people, or risk pissing them off to the point of losing interest in the story. Just how I approach it.

Og, you definitely haven't read my stories :D. If it's less than 15 Lit pages, it's not even a real story for me. The exception was my Romance one was only 6 pages. Don't Look is my first try at a short story (only 2) and I'm pretty happy with the results. I like trying to really get into the character's lives so you feel more strongly about them. Especially in LW. The downside is I'm long-winded. Someone commented on the last one that I must think I'm Dickens or something (he's partially right, I usually think I'm a dick :p ).

Oh yeah, and someone posted a comment once that the number of views is by page, so if you have a 5 page story, it's going to read more views than a 3 page story. Don't know the validity of that, but everyone seemed to agree.
 
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DG Hear said:
Hey Rump, if I may call you that? I'm known to piss off people. I like high scores as much as the next writer, but I write what I want. Wherever my mood may take me. I do warn people some of the time but it doesn't do much good. They read it then complain anyway. I guess my grivence, if you want to call it that is that the stories I feel strongly about, just don't get the readers. When you put the time in and write what you think is really good and carry above a 4.80+ rating, you wonder why you don't get the readers. I write some wierd ass fuck my wife story and get 20,000 plus reads (al-be-it a low score, and lots of comments.
Excuse my spouting off but I guess that's why we have this site.
DG Hear
DG,

What you're talking about is one of those great mysteries of the wild, wild, world of writing. Odds are just about every writer has experienced the same frustration. Reminds a body of the old adage, "No one ever went broke underestimating the public's taste."

Rumple "just don't call me late for lunch" Foreskin :cool:
 
DG Hear said:
Hey Rump, if I may call you that? I'm known to piss off people. I like high scores as much as the next writer, but I write what I want. Wherever my mood may take me. I do warn people some of the time but it doesn't do much good. They read it then complain anyway. I guess my grivence, if you want to call it that is that the stories I feel strongly about, just don't get the readers. When you put the time in and write what you think is really good and carry above a 4.80+ rating, you wonder why you don't get the readers. I write some wierd ass fuck my wife story and get 20,000 plus reads (al-be-it a low score, and lots of comments.
Excuse my spouting off but I guess that's why we have this site.
DG Hear

One of the best stories I have on this site is 'Hunting Dawn' (link in sig.) it was posted in October 04 and has 106960 views (2nd highest) 131 votes (3rd highest) 15 public comments (highest) and a score of 3.53 (2nd lowest)

It's in the incest category, is character driven, contains lots of description and development, covers mainly a few hours in their lives, first person pov, one v.short wank scene and the PCs range from
Draven said:
A story must work on 1 of 2 levels to be wonderful, it can either be well written and full of sex or well writen and hinting, and i must say that this story is one of the best examples of level two i have ever read.<>...
to
anon-in-US said:

Readers: You pays your money...
 
Daniellekitten said:
The Pond is still at 4.49...arghhhh it's got me checking the damn score every half hour or so. Somebody stop the madness. Please!!

I could give you a second 5, but I don't think it would help you for more than a day or two.
 
I appreciate the first five. It's got back its H and I feel much better. Thank you.

It's funny, talking about scores. One of my highest rated with definitely the most reads and the most votes would be in the romance cat. It's at 4.90 with 106934 reads and 307 votes. And it's five Lit pages long. It also has 52 comments. And I didn't think it would do all that well when I wrote it.
 
Daniellekitten said:
I appreciate the first five. It's got back its H and I feel much better. Thank you.

It's funny, talking about scores. One of my highest rated with definitely the most reads and the most votes would be in the romance cat. It's at 4.90 with 106934 reads and 307 votes. And it's five Lit pages long. It also has 52 comments. And I didn't think it would do all that well when I wrote it.
DK,

Just between the two of us, you understand, but you were WAY wrong. :)

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
Rumple Foreskin said:
DK,

Just between the two of us, you understand, but you were WAY wrong. :)

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
Yeah, I get told that a lot... About being WAY wrong that is...lol.
 
Daniellekitten said:
I appreciate the first five. It's got back its H and I feel much better. Thank you.

It's funny, talking about scores. One of my highest rated with definitely the most reads and the most votes would be in the romance cat. It's at 4.90 with 106934 reads and 307 votes. And it's five Lit pages long. It also has 52 comments. And I didn't think it would do all that well when I wrote it.
I keep thinking that I'll figure this out someday. My romance story has my lowest number of views, but my highest score and most votes (350). I've had two stories at #1 in LW (which then dropped dramatically when someone noticed they were #1), both with a ton of views, but less votes (300 & 250). My most controversial story took 4 months to get over the 4.00 mark (still by far my lowest score) and has very few votes or comments. It has by far the most views.

I give up trying to figure it out. I'm just having fun.
 
oggbashan said:
No. We are not kidding.

Being known can have serious disadvantages as well as advantages.

I am known for being long-winded, having little sex in a story, and usually mild femdom. Not all my stories are like that, but enough are for people to assume that they all are.

So - if you want upfront sex, dominant male, and a short explicit story you would be unlikely to open an Og story.

For different reasons, several AH authors will be unpopular with many readers on Lit - too literary, too much plot, and horror! expecting the reader to think.

That doesn't apply to all of us, and not all of the time. The category of story makes a massive difference to the voting, as does the title and description.

Several of my stories have less than 10 votes even though they have been posted for years. Only a few have more than 25. I wouldn't expect to get the 50 votes necessary to be a contestant in a monthly contest. How many people are going to read 5 Lit pages before they vote?

When I write Incest - then I get votes.

Og

PS: Edited to give examples. Harold Plays the Hero, posted July 2002, has 21 votes. Its sequel Harold Saves Her Husband (Part 1) posted recently, has 7.

Lisa's Adjustable Petticoat (I know. The title puts readers off) also posted July 2002 has 5 votes.

Virgin's Sister (Incest) posted July 2004 has 244 votes.

When I got to know you better and read some of your stories that weren't femdom (and lighten up about the ones that were femdom), I began to appreciate the fact that you have a lot of actual quality in your stories. It took a while, but it happened. 2 years ago, I was a new, firebrand type of smut writer, much more about the theme and category than about the plot. Now, of course, I'm balanced enough to enjoy a well-written story, even if I don't get aroused by the content for one reason or another (such as a kink that doesn't appeal to me).
 
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