Ann Coulter! Jesus Jumpin' up Christ!

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Ann Coulter: Jesus Jumpin’ up Christ!


It took three weeks to order the book from my small town local library before it finally arrived.

In my life, and it has been a long one; I have intellectually admired but a few. Among those, have been, Aristotle, Ayn Rand, William Buckley, Newt Gingrich, and now, Ann Coulter.

I am only halfway, well maybe that, page 149, of her book; “How to talk to a Liberal” (If you must), but I felt the urge to share, oh well….

This is mainly for, SheReads, (somebody tell her) and maybe McKenna, (who hates me) but also Colleen Thomas, Minsue, Cloudy, Wildcard Kentucky, H.Dean, OggBashon, and sighs…others…that perhaps I will edit and add….sorry….

But my point is…regardless of your politics…read this book…as I have…line by line, page by page…this lady has a mind, oh, surely yes, and a sense of humor and of irony and satire that I have seldom encountered in my perusal of 50,000 books plus….

This writer is a ‘gem’, a jewel in the limited world of writers with intelligence.

I make this post for several reasons…one of which…my approach to, ‘Talking with Liberals’, is much the same as hers…but was developed independently…as a matter of necessity, as you are all dumber than basalt.

Cheers…


Amicus….
 
amicus said:
Ann Coulter: Jesus Jumpin’ up Christ!


It took three weeks to order the book from my small town local library before it finally arrived.

In my life, and it has been a long one; I have intellectually admired but a few. Among those, have been, Aristotle, Ayn Rand, William Buckley, Newt Gingrich, and now, Ann Coulter.

I am only halfway, well maybe that, page 149, of her book; “How to talk to a Liberal” (If you must), but I felt the urge to share, oh well….

This is mainly for, SheReads, (somebody tell her) and maybe McKenna, (who hates me) but also Colleen Thomas, Minsue, Cloudy, Wildcard Kentucky, H.Dean, OggBashon, and sighs…others…that perhaps I will edit and add….sorry….

But my point is…regardless of your politics…read this book…as I have…line by line, page by page…this lady has a mind, oh, surely yes, and a sense of humor and of irony and satire that I have seldom encountered in my perusal of 50,000 books plus….

This writer is a ‘gem’, a jewel in the limited world of writers with intelligence.

I make this post for several reasons…one of which…my approach to, ‘Talking with Liberals’, is much the same as hers…but was developed independently…as a matter of necessity, as you are all dumber than basalt.

Cheers…


Amicus….


I already read Ann, Amicus. Have for quite sometime. Although, I consider her more entertaining than informative. She is intelligent, but also given to invective and bombastic presentation. She's alos shown a willingness to play fast and loose with the facts, quoting those that suit her and ignoring those that don't.

Not trying to ruing your enjoyment, mind you, but she isn't in the same class as Buckley, whom I admire greatly for his objective and analytical approach.
 
Wishing he was on the list

My cardiologist put me on a basalt free diet.

That's quite a jump from Aristotle to AynRand and nary a mind in between. What about Sir Francis Bacon, the discoverer of cholesterol?
 
But my point is…regardless of your politics…read this book…as I have…line by line, page by page…this lady has a mind, oh, surely yes, and a sense of humor and of irony and satire that I have seldom encountered in my perusal of 50,000 books plus….

This writer is a ‘gem’, a jewel in the limited world of writers with intelligence.

I make this post for several reasons…one of which…my approach to, ‘Talking with Liberals’, is much the same as hers…but was developed independently…as a matter of necessity, as you are all dumber than basalt.
I resent that. Basalt can't read.

I'm interrested in what you admire about Aristotele. What I've read of him doesn't exactly ring true with the world view of the others in your list there. Maybe I read the wrong Aristotele. Mine was a Greek dude.

Anyway, I'm not really enough into your political scene to comment on ms C, but one thing I see and admire is that she knows what she is. She's a debater, a stirrer of the pot, a poker with a stick, and she doesn't pretend to be anything else, like so many others do. I'm kind of tired of political commentators who try to wrap their opinions in a Jesus act. That's all the fad over here. We desperately need Coultiers on both sides of the fence.

The little I've read and heard of her doesn't stike me as being as brilliant as you describe her, but she sure is street smart in the scene she operates. Her job is to get reactions, and she does. Even if it sometimes is projectile vomiting.
 
I made the stoopid liberal list. Woot! :D

As has been said, she's entertaining and good at what she does. She plays everyone like a violin - the media, her base, and the left. The quintessential "manipulative woman".
 
Coulter repulses me, and repulses me most when we happen to be on the same side of an issue. I'm absurdly passionate about argumentation in its purer forms, and she is, to me, a good representation of everything that can take a superb thinking and learning mechanism and make it utterly worthless. At its best, argument enlightens and advances the understanding of everyone involved. What Ms. Coulter does can hardly be called argument - it is mostly merely abuse.

She does, to me, serve one purpose. When one reads her screeds side by side with the work of Mill, one develops a truly clear image of the changes in political ideas and debate in the last hundred and fifty years. She doesn't just have bad rhetoric; she has weak ideas. As Colly points out, she engages in card-stacking; I would add her absurd straw-man constructions, which together with the former end up with her offering no logical rationale or support for anything she says. She's often not really offering information or any useful analysis; she's just spitting out bile disguised as argument with a thin veneer of pseudo-fact and pseudo-reason.

And lest one think that it is merely her conservative alignment that makes me dislike her, I hasten to add that she - like Rush Limbaugh, and like Michael Moore - angers me most when she's on my side. I have, I like to think, strong and carefully examined reasons for believing what I do. It makes a mockery of any sincere belief or honest application of reason to have that sort of side-show attached to it. I do not feel that they are capable of advancing any good cause with any person who has respect for reason and for other people; in fact, I believe that they harm any cause with which they are associated through their disgusting behavior. They also encourage and perpetuate a culture of argument that focuses on emotionalism and a conscious rejection of reason (including actual facts supporting other opinions), and in that they become precisely what Orwell predicted: a ruthless, dangerous set of ideologues pressing their audience ever further from any actual thought and ever closer to sheep-like obediance to a thinly grasped mantra.

Or, as perhaps Ms. Coulter might put it, Oceania has always been at war with East Asia.

Shanglan
 
I agree with Shanglan completely. Ann Coulter isn't a thinker, isn't even a debater. She's a political insult artist, a malicious Don Rickles whose medium is political rage, which is probably why she appeals to Amicus. It's his native tongue as well.

I hate that kind of thing from either side. Now that the liberals have Air America, I hear the same kind of nauseating Rube Radio from their side too. It's equally disgusting and just as embarrassing. Like bathing in bile.
 
Ann Coulter is Howard Stern in a skirt. Mostly fluff with insults to get attention. Difference is, Howard doesn't pretend to be smarter than everyone else.

Try Al Franken's Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them. Perfect mix of comedy and information.
 
Well, I couldn't honestly expect much more than than, given the venue.

The range of History and Politics Ms. Coulter includes in her diatribes is marvelous, her sense of humor, irony and ridicule is priceless, bringing forth many appreciative chuckles while reading.

Just thought if you have not read, but only bask in hatred, you might find her worthy.


thanks anyway...


amicus...
 
amicus said:
Well, I couldn't honestly expect much more than than, given the venue.

The range of History and Politics Ms. Coulter includes in her diatribes is marvelous, her sense of humor, irony and ridicule is priceless, bringing forth many appreciative chuckles while reading.

Just thought if you have not read, but only bask in hatred, you might find her worthy.


thanks anyway...


amicus...

I love your consistancy, Ami. Regardless of the responses you receive*, you can always be counted on to reply as above.


(*I love unintentional alliteration, just makes my day :D)
 
I read Ann Coulter already. I like how she's one of the few ultraconservative psychotics who actually makes decent points from time to time. Most of the neocons are so Happy Fun Ball, but Ann Coulter is the only one who actually has struck quite well at the idiocy of the left from time to time (the right isn't the only haven to morons as anyone who has seen a college campus on a party day can attest).

Ideologically, the fact that she believes the things she does scares the hell out of me, like the recent article saying that conservatives if they are bribed well enough with social legislation will "protect" the president and his staff from any ill effects of that whole committing treason thing and that this is all somehow "moral". Still, except for our fundamental differences which arise in her base assumptions, she's a very observant and psychotic avatar and is one of the few I can muster a begrudging respect for.

I'm surprised you respect her though as she is very feminist and you hate feminists and women.

Though, I do believe she would be much more happy if she a) came out and b) actually punched one of her fellow pundits who act like geeky frat boys whenever she comes on and condescend her to no end. But that's a personal observation.
 
minsue said:
I love your consistancy, Ami. Regardless of the responses you receive*, you can always be counted on to reply as above.


(*I love unintentional alliteration, just makes my day :D)

I adore you. :rose:
 
I've read her. She's interesting and funny, but way too biased for me.

She's the same as Limbaugh, Franken and several others in the genre. Very interesting, very good at what they do, but they're no more than cheerleaders for their side. It doesn't matter if their side is right or wrong, they'll keep cheering.

You can't learn truth from cheerleaders.
 
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I would love to do a show on Fox news with her...maybe at about the 10pm hour when they start the reruns.....wonder if she would be interested....


amicus...
 
JamesSD said:
Ann Coulter is Howard Stern in a skirt. Mostly fluff with insults to get attention. Difference is, Howard doesn't pretend to be smarter than everyone else.

Try Al Franken's Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them. Perfect mix of comedy and information.


Franken is just Coulter fom the other side of the political fence. Rall used to be fairly interesteing, but he took a nose dive off the dep end after the last election. Can't even make myself read him now. It's hard to find a left of center pundit now days who isn't so eaten up withhate they come off like Pym calling for Straffords head.
 
her sense of humor, irony and ridicule is priceless


This is actually quite a lost art form, the art of ridicule. I can appreciate the skill it takes, even if I don't agree with the opinion. In Coulter's case, sometimes I do agree, sometimes I don't, but it think it's fairly irrelevant, really, I can still enjoy what she does... just like I can enjoy Al Franken or Michael Moore. I think there is a cultural and social need for what they do. *Someone* has to point out all the damned pink elephants in the middle of the room...
 
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