Andrew Yang out of the Presidential race

He quit when his search for a running mate named Ying couldn't be found.:rolleyes:
 
He had no chance.

Too bad Buttwart won't drop out.

I think he was too far left.

But at least he stood behind and argued his policy positions, which is more than most the field is capable of doing.

And he didn't seem to embrace the identitarianism most the other (D)'s are on about.

Fatal mistake for him.
 
I think he was too far left.

But at least he stood behind and argued his policy positions, which is more than most the field is capable of doing.

And he didn't seem to embrace the identitarianism most the other (D)'s are on about.

Fatal mistake for him.

You think probably think fricken' Mussolini was too far left. But your comment about "he couldn't find a running mate named "Ying" I gotta admit, that was kinda funny.
 
You think probably think fricken' Mussolini was too far left. But your comment about "he couldn't find a running mate named "Ying" I gotta admit, that was kinda funny.

Except it should have been "Yin," not "Ying." He can't even get his jokes right.
 
Not being a liberal instead of a freedom loathing socialist doesn't make me a fascist.

No, but your love of concentration camps for kids (under the guise of "secure borders") and open admiration of the new American gestapo ICE makes you a fascist.

Now lie once to us all again and claim that anyone who doesn't support concentration camps and an American gestapo is an "Anti-American" who somehow favors "Open Borders". Oh, and they're "racist" as well :rolleyes:
 
No, but your love of concentration camps for kids (under the guise of "secure borders") and open admiration of the new American gestapo ICE makes you a fascist.

No, along with liberalism and socialism you obviously have no idea what the word fascism means either.

Not at all shocking.

Sorry Rob, supporting immigration control and secure borders doesn't make ANYONE a fascist.

Now lie once to us all again and claim that anyone who doesn't support concentration camps and an American gestapo is an "Anti-American" who somehow favors "Open Borders". Oh, and they're "racist" as well :rolleyes:

I've never done that in the first place, that's all ascription based on your lies.

Now people who want to get rid of ICE/CBP do support open borders, that's a matter of fact, not a mystery.

I know this is a very very difficult concept for you to get, I mean you think having borders is the same as Nazism so you're clearly not working with a full box of crayons....but when you stop controlling your border and who/what comes in/out of your country? You have open borders.

Getting rid of our customs/immigration and border enforcement agencies (who you consider the Gestapo) opens our borders up.....

Is reality registering yet or are you still in fantasy land??? :D
 
No, along with liberalism and socialism you obviously have no idea what the word fascism means either.

Not at all shocking.

Sorry Rob, supporting immigration control and secure borders doesn't make ANYONE a fascist.



I've never done that in the first place, that's all ascription based on your lies.

Now people who want to get rid of ICE/CBP do support open borders, that's a matter of fact, not a mystery.

I know this is a very very difficult concept for you to get, I mean you think having borders is the same as Nazism so you're clearly not working with a full box of crayons....but when you stop controlling your border and who/what comes in/out of your country? You have open borders.

Getting rid of our customs/immigration and border enforcement agencies (who you consider the Gestapo) opens our borders up.....

Is reality registering yet or are you still in fantasy land??? :D

Let's count the ascriptions above.

I've said time after time that I support the CBP, somehow America got by with solely the CBP for almost 100 years. I do not support, and will never support, ICE. They are a paramilitary goon squad Gestapo, an overreaction to 9/11 designed to terrorize and subjugate non-English speaking people, regardless of citizenship status..

You, however, you insist on conflating support of the two agencies together because you lack the intellectual integrity to acknowledge my position. Then you criticize "my" purported position, a position I do NOT hold, a position you have ASSIGNED to me. This is intellectual dishonesty.

Not supporting the American gestapo ICE while supporting the nearly 100-year-old CBP is not "supporting open borders", no matter how often you repeat this falsehood.
 
Let's count the ascriptions above.

Yes!!

I've said time after time that I support the CBP,

This is the first time when discussing the subject with me.

Glad to know you support the "concentration camps" as you call them though....those fascist in the CBP are extra NAZI. :D


somehow America got by with solely the CBP for almost 100 years.

Another demonstrable falsehood.

US Customs Service was established by one President George Washington on July 31, 1789.

Immigration and Naturalization Services were established June 10, 1933.

They were combined in 2003 under the DHS as Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ICE.

You can verify all this with a simple google search.

I do not support, and will never support, ICE. They are a paramilitary goon squad Gestapo, an overreaction to 9/11 designed to terrorize and subjugate non-English speaking people, regardless of citizenship status..

No it's not. This is the most absurd, unsupportable and hyperbolic claim you've made directly so far.

ICE is immigration and customs enforcement.

ICE checks your passport at the airport, they inspect cargo/baggage to make sure people don't bring contraband into the US and deports people who violate the rules, overstay and or aren't supposed to be here in the first place.

Without ICE we effectively have open immigration and nobody to check who or what is coming in through the ports of entry.

Making the abolish ICE a mostly open borders position to hold.

That's why people who actually know what ICE is look at you and other anti-American leftist like your fucking insane when you say you want ICE/CBP abolished and chant "no borders, no walls, no USA at all!". ;)


You, however, you insist on conflating support of the two agencies together because you lack the intellectual integrity to acknowledge my position.

A position you just NOW stated???

I've acknowledged it fully and taken it apart for it's hysteria and total ignorance on the topic.

Then you criticize "my" purported position, a position I do NOT hold, a position you have ASSIGNED to me. This is intellectual dishonesty.

No it's not, claiming it is after just now stating your position, and spending months defending "abolish ICE/CBP" protestors and their chants of "No border, no walls, no USA at all" and "No borders, no nations, no deportations!" as just not being Nazis and totally not supporting open borders, is the only intellectual dishonesty here.

Not supporting the American gestapo ICE while supporting the nearly 100-year-old CBP is not "supporting open borders", no matter how often you repeat this falsehood.

It's open immigration and bring whatever shit into the US you want.

Also the very first time you've openly stated that you also support CBP, and their "kids in concentration camps" as you call them.

Until now all you did was defend your progressive buddies who want them both gone, and openly called for no borders/nations/USA..... which is supporting open borders and being Anti-American about as directly as it gets.
 
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That’s unfortunate

I liked him, but that’s the nature of the business. He’s young and it might be better to sit this one out..

2024 is closer than we think.
 
Once again, WelfareBot attempts to equate my dislike of ICE and their concentration camps with somehow supporting "Open Borders". And then criticize me for "my" position.

He loves himself some ascription long time.
 
Once again, WelfareBot attempts to equate my dislike of ICE and their concentration camps with somehow supporting "Open Borders". And then criticize me for "my" position.

He loves himself some ascription long time.

Well, then, since you believe your position has been mischaracterized; why don't you speel it out for us? In detail.
 
Once again, WelfareBot attempts to equate my dislike of ICE and their concentration camps with somehow supporting "Open Borders".

Those "concentration camps" are run by CBP....which you said you support.

Also without ICE, which you openly condemned as Nazis.

Who will control/police our ports of entry? Who will enforce our immigration/importation laws??

Right....

No ICE = open immigration and open ports of entry. As long as you go through a port of entry it's a total free for all. Making no ICE a semi open border policy.

Get rid of CBP and their "concentration camps" as you call them? Totally open borders.

This is a fact, a demonstrable reality that you cannot refute.

You can't have it both ways Rob, either you support ICE/CBP that secure our borders and control immigration/importation.....or you don't, making you an open borders idiot.

Which is it??

And then criticize me for "my" position.

You stated your position, not me.

He loves himself some ascription long time.

There is no ascription here Rob.

You just didn't know what the fuck you were talking about, said some ignorant shit and are now trying to be a victim, crying "ascription" because I refuted your ignorant comments.

If I'm wrong then openly and plainly state you support securing our borders and controlling our immigration/importation.

Then there can't be any confusion about your support for ICE/CBP.

Or keep calling them Nazis and defending the people who want them, borders, nation states and the USA, abolished as just not liking Nazis.....putting you definitively in the open borders anti-American leftist camp.
 
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I liked Yang. It's too bad he barely got any media attention.

He did some good work pushing UBI as a mainstream concept. And tackled the economic reasons for some social dysfunction. I'm glad he was a part of the conversation, and I hope he'll continue to be.
 
Well, then, since you believe your position has been mischaracterized; why don't you speel it out for us? In detail.

Glad to do so, Mr. Sealion.
  • I support the mission of the United States Customs Service and their 200+ years of service to America.
  • I support the mission of the United States Border Patrol enforcing entry and exits at our nations borders since the 1920s.
  • I do not in any way shape or form support "ICE" (the American Gestapo). The sole purpose of ICE, as I see it, is to harass and intimidate non-English speaking populace within America.
  • I do not support any law enforcement authority who carries out Trump's immoral "Cruelty IS the Point" policies of taking children away from families and placing them in indefinite confinement facilities.
  • I will not stand idly by and allow anyone to characterize my above positions as "Anti-American", no matter how much they really really REALLY believe in their own position.

Pretty simple, eh?

Now why don't you enumerate your position on the subject?
 
He quit when his search for a running mate named Ying couldn't be found.:rolleyes:

This is like, the whitest white boy joke EVER and you STILL FUCKED IT UP.

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Vette, you continue disappointing. :D

Glad to do so, Mr. Sealion.
  • I support the mission of the United States Customs Service and their 200+ years of service to America.
  • I support the mission of the United States Border Patrol enforcing entry and exits at our nations borders since the 1920s.
  • I do not in any way shape or form support "ICE" (the American Gestapo). The sole purpose of ICE, as I see it, is to harass and intimidate non-English speaking populace within America.
  • I do not support any law enforcement authority who carries out Trump's immoral "Cruelty IS the Point" policies of taking children away from families and placing them in indefinite confinement facilities.
  • I will not stand idly by and allow anyone to characterize my above positions as "Anti-American", no matter how much they really really REALLY believe in their own position.

Pretty simple, eh?

Now why don't you enumerate your position on the subject?

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