And The Beat Goes On

NYPD Cop Killer Worked for US-based Muslim Group ISNA (Islamic Society of North America)

Its ALWAYS MUSLIMS and ISLAM....aint it?
 
It's like being able to experience the middle east without leaving home

Now the score stands at 1040 to 2. But I think that the clock is running down on the protesters.

That's about the same ratio as Israel had in their self-defense against the bottle rockets of Gaza.

And this guy who did the deed, was on a suicide run too wasn't he?
 
NYPD or LAPD or NOPD, they are all the same

The sameness is that they are all occupying forces instead of cops.

Remember the guy who was buying the bb gun in walmart? He was strolling along the aisle in walmart talking on his phone and as soon as the 'cop' saw him he fired.

Shoot on sight, is generally not one of the rules of engagement with police maybe excepting swat teams and other super militant units.

The kid in the park? two seconds after the cop arrived the kid was down. Shoot on site.

The D.E.A. and some of the other really bad units have been killing people for years but because now there are more cameras we hear about it.
 
The sameness is that they are all occupying forces instead of cops.

Remember the guy who was buying the bb gun in walmart? He was strolling along the aisle in walmart talking on his phone and as soon as the 'cop' saw him he fired.

Shoot on sight, is generally not one of the rules of engagement with police maybe excepting swat teams and other super militant units.

The kid in the park? two seconds after the cop arrived the kid was down. Shoot on site.

The D.E.A. and some of the other really bad units have been killing people for years but because now there are more cameras we hear about it.

Asshole, drop dead, take your family with you
 
The sameness is that they are all occupying forces instead of cops.

Remember the guy who was buying the bb gun in walmart? He was strolling along the aisle in walmart talking on his phone and as soon as the 'cop' saw him he fired.

Shoot on sight, is generally not one of the rules of engagement with police maybe excepting swat teams and other super militant units.

The kid in the park? two seconds after the cop arrived the kid was down. Shoot on site.

The D.E.A. and some of the other really bad units have been killing people for years but because now there are more cameras we hear about it.

I bet you were hollering for justice with Ruby Ridge and Waco, weren't you?
 
here you go Vette

This is why I said that it was over a thousand people killed by police. There are no complete records kept for the people shot by police. It is like they don't want the subject to ever come up.


Through the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, specifically Section 210402, the US Congress mandated the Attorney General to collect data on the use of excessive force by police and to publish an annual report from the data.[5] Two national systems collect data which include homicides committed by law enforcement officers in the line of duty. The National Center for Health Statistics maintains the National Vital Statistics System (NVSS) which aggregates data from locally filed death certificates. State laws require that death certificates be filed with local registrars, but the certificates do not systematically document whether a killing was legally justified nor whether a law enforcement officer was involved.[6] The FBI maintains the Uniform Crime Reporting Program (UCR) which relies on the voluntary participation of state and local law enforcement agencies in submitting reports about crimes.[6] A study of the years 1976 to 1998 found that both national systems underreport justifiable homicides by police officers, but for different reasons.[6] Records in the NVSS did not consistently include documentation of police officer involvement. The UCR database did not receive reports of all applicable incidents. The authors concluded that "reliable estimates of the number of justifiable homicides committed by police officers in the United States do not exist."[6] A study of killings by police from 1999 to 2002 in the Central Florida region found that the national databases included (in Florida) only one-fourth of the number of persons killed by police as reported in the local news media.[7]"Nationally, the percentage of unreported killings by police is probably lower than among agencies in Central Florida..."[8]

As you can see these figures are out of date but I think you would agree that the police have gotten a bit more trigger happy since 9/11. Maybe not the NYPD. just before 9/11 they had shot some guy 46 times while he was driving by in his car. He was unarmed too.
 
yes. weren't you?

Of course. People died over in one case unfounded allegations of making modifications to firearms that, if true, would have survived the fire that burned out men, women and children. In the other case the Federal agent pointed on the shotgun and told weaver how short he wanted it modified to in order to make it illegal.

It was the left, attempting to vilify the right as racists and religious nuts that led to both of those atrocities.

Before that it was the right with Nixon and J.Egdar abusing their powers to track the left and those dirty commie hippies and black radicals.

Nothing changes about the abuse of power. It just changes as to who is abusing whom.

I am not a fan on the war on drugs either, despite the fact I have only tried weed once and recently. My brother and I used to have some pretty heated discussions years ago. He did 5 years as a narc. He and I get along better these days now that from experience he has come at least a little closer to my point of view. He says now that his view is that drugs mostly seem to hurt the individuals and families involved and not wider society as we are led to believe. Not quite a libertarian point of view, but closer.

I suspect you and I have more common ground than one might suspect on the surface.
 
Our biggest thing in common is that we are both american

Everybody here on the political board have a great deal in common. I think me, you and Vette all love our country. Anybody here on this board feels the same way or they wouldn't be here.

While I feel that I am right when I say that the public needs more support from the government. You see that as giving the government too much control over our lives leading to a lack of freedom.

I never think of you and vette as my enemy, rather as fellow americans who are misinformed and going the wrong direction.

Our real enemy is the people who have us all believing that we are the problem, and keep us fighting amongst ourselves while they consolidate their power.
 
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