And now the wait begins

[Neomagalie]

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[babiesmiles]

My best wishes to you both Neomagalie !

I'm happy for you from heart !

 

[catalina_francisco]

I wish you luck in your adventure. I am sure at some point he also told his wife he was in love with her (perhaps even as he left to visit you), and as far as I can gather from the short time he has been here asking the board how to remain faithful and/or encourage his wife to be submissive to him he has continued to remain married and not told her about the great love you both share. Of course I could be wrong and she may have told him to happily go ahead, or he has left her since I last saw him mention his marriage a matter of a month or 2 ago, or you may all be planning to live happily ever after together. Point being, be careful as you would not be the first or last to be used to spark a boring marriage or give one the courage to leave only to be left herself once the novelty wore off or someone else came along. Boring as I know it is to some on the board, I still think the best way to deal with marital/relationship problems is honestly, openly and between the 2 people involved before moving on seperately and finding new relationships.

Catalina

 

[CutieMouse]

*****

 

[arctic-stranger]

I wish you luck in your adventure. I am sure at some point he also told his wife he was in love with her (perhaps even as he left to visit you), and as far as I can gather from the short time he has been here asking the board how to remain faithful and/or encourage his wife to be submissive to him he has continued to remain married and not told her about the great love you both share. Of course I could be wrong and she may have told him to happily go ahead, or he has left her since I last saw him mention his marriage a matter of a month or 2 ago, or you may all be planning to live happily ever after together. Point being, be careful as you would not be the first or last to be used to spark a boring marriage or give one the courage to leave only to be left herself once the novelty wore off or someone else came along. Boring as I know it is to some on the board, I still think the best way to deal with marital/relationship problems is honestly, openly and between the 2 people involved before moving on seperately and finding new relationships.

Catalina

after i met with Magalie i spent four days in a monastery doing intense therapy with a monk. (Yes this is true.) He encouraged me to move out, and to start a new life.

I cannot begin to tell you how much he helped me understand my life as it is now. And just how fucked it it is.


I also spent these four days with a collegue of mine, who knew where i was before i met him. (with magalie) He talked about mid life corrections.

I am not home yet, but heading that way, and i have a hell of a lot of honest talking to do. It will not be easy, but...as you said, honesty is the way to go.

 

[Marquis]

AS, you bad motherfucker you!

Hold it down Renaissance Dom.

 

[arctic-stranger]

AS, you bad motherfucker you!

Hold it down Renaissance Dom.

I would but....well when you got it, you got it!

sigh

now i just have to wait until we can be together again....oh, and i HIGHLY recommend the chain trick....

 

[Killishandra]

What is the "chain trick"?

Anyone wanna tell me?

 

[Aeroil]

A Link

Anyone wanna tell me?

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=160831&page=1

 

[arctic-stranger]

Anyone wanna tell me?

Believe me, as good as it sounds...it is even better when you actually do it.

 

[catalina_francisco]

after i met with Magalie i spent four days in a monastery doing intense therapy with a monk. (Yes this is true.) He encouraged me to move out, and to start a new life.

I cannot begin to tell you how much he helped me understand my life as it is now. And just how fucked it it is.


I also spent these four days with a collegue of mine, who knew where i was before i met him. (with magalie) He talked about mid life corrections.

I am not home yet, but heading that way, and i have a hell of a lot of honest talking to do. It will not be easy, but...as you said, honesty is the way to go.

I commend your intentions to be honest after the fact at least. Religion and therapy can often be used to assuage guilt and excuse behaviour you know is off, and to wear like a badge to 'prove' to others you really are a 'good person'. I don't tend to view religion or therapy as a 'get out of jail free' type way of dealing with problems, especially when they hurt others. I'm afraid I am not a great believer in choosing this route to end relationships or start new ones, as most older posters here already would know. It seems a little unfair to go ahead and make sure one has someone else to turn to first, while their trusting and unsuspecting partner is left to deal with the fallout alone with no grace to have similarly lined themselves up a little comfort zone before the crunch. And yes, the common protest is it was not meant to be like that, it just happened, they had no choice etc., but bottom line is if you are aware you have issues to deal with (ie. you are not happy in your relationship), you can make the choice to deal with it (either with your partner or leave if it is not going to work) before looking outside that relationship and involving others in your misery.

I also am not a believer in the relationship which instigates the end of the previous one being founded on true emotions....they might feel real at the time, but often it ends up more as being useful to motivate ending the first relationship, then once the dust settles does not seem to hold the charm it did before. It may not be intended consciously to be that way, but even when you want to end a relationship and are comfortable with the choice, there are a myriad of confusing emotions involved which colour other relationships and events in your life at that time.....it becomes difficult to know what is real and what is a lifeline, escape, or form of denial. Add to that the statistics are stacked highly against success in relationships born out of cheating. It takes two to make a relationship work...and to fail. If it wasn't working, why not deal with that openly and honestly before involving others and possibly just moving your own existing problems into a new relationship to once again go down the same road 9Or a different one but which leads to the same place) and add your own pain to yet another person or persons?

Catalina

 

[Marquis]

There was a time where I was seeing a married woman. I heard her lie her way through inconvenient phonecalls and put on a convincing enough act to fool a person that knew her way better than I did.

At one point she asked me if I would want to be with her if she left her husband. I told her the truth.

I wouldn't even leave you alone in my house without my valuables locked up, HELL NO BITCH!

 

[CutieMouse]

*****

 

[Neomagalie]

.........

 

[jasonlf]

I wouldn't even leave you alone in my house without my valuables locked up, HELL NO BITCH!

Hah, god knows that's the truth

 

[shy slave]

I am very pleased to hear you have both started out on this journey together, regardless of obstacles you face in the future.

I have spoken a few times to A-S in pm, he has always seemed to me, to be a genuine and real person who acknowledges he wants more than he had with his wife.

No-one knows how anything will work out in life. It is so very difficult to find a relationship that works on a D/s and life level. Many people here have been succesful and equally many have not.
Regardless of how things work for you both I hope that these first and subsequent steps are a wonderful and beautiful experience for you both
x

 

[catalina_francisco]

I am very pleased to hear you have both started out on this journey together, regardless of obstacles you face in the future.

I have spoken a few times to A-S in pm, he has always seemed to me, to be a genuine and real person who acknowledges he wants more than he had with his wife.

No-one knows how anything will work out in life. It is so very difficult to find a relationship that works on a D/s and life level. Many people here have been succesful and equally many have not.
Regardless of how things work for you both I hope that these first and subsequent steps are a wonderful and beautiful experience for you both
x

This is true and I am not meaning to come off as judgemental. I do think you get out of a relationship what you put into it ....it means taking risks, it means commitment, and it means building trust. I just think if you can't muster the courage to admit your relationship is not working and move out of it before beginning something else, you are basically saying you are keeping hold of the unsuccessful relationship if and until you find a replacement incase you do not.

IMHO it is dishonest, it does lack courage, it does take advantage of the other person you are hoping to leave, and it disrespects them in that you think it is acceptable to do that to another human being while feathering your own nest. Add to that a lot of people who take thie route claim they are staying until they find someone else because they are thinking of the one they are going to leave and it just comes down to arrogance. Like Marquis says, if you hear the one you are with syuccessfully lying to their other partner, how do you know what to believe and what not to, especially when they say those same words to you....where is the truth factor?

Catalina

 

[catalina_francisco]

Thank you for the concern Catalina and for your opinions. I do agree with you that the best way to deal with a relationship marital or otherwise is through honesty and being open with each other. For the record I am also married and my husband knew where I was the whole time, knew he could reach me at any moment and he knew I was with AS.

I am not going to talk for AS or defend his actions. Though I will say that he comes across on the board, when talking about our relationship a little more starry eye that he is in reality and that for him religion is everything but a “get out of jail free”. He is going through a lot right now and yes maybe I am just a way to go through it all but it makes me happy to be by his side through it so I am going to stay. We have to take things slowly and carefully and I think we both understand that.

I am happy you can believe in him and his beliefs. I met a man while I was searching for the Dom of my dreams who turned out to be a Catholic priest (I am not Catholic)...yes, he even invited me to attend one of his Sunday services. He used church funds to buy his toys, he slept with men and women, and all in the name of religion because he felt God did not actually mean things to be the way the Catholic church believed.....but he was happy to put on an outward show of upholding the faith, maintaining he had a stronger faith than anyone else, and having the food he ate and house he lived in and car he drove provided by that church. I never went to one of his services or remained in contact with him simply because apart from being a hypocrite, I didn't feel he was someone I could trust.

Catalina

 

[arctic-stranger]

I am happy you can believe in him and his beliefs. I met a man while I was searching for the Dom of my dreams who turned out to be a Catholic priest (I am not Catholic)...yes, he even invited me to attend one of his Sunday services. He used church funds to buy his toys, he slept with men and women, and all in the name of religion because he felt God did not actually mean things to be the way the Catholic church believed.....but he was happy to put on an outward show of upholding the faith, maintaining he had a stronger faith than anyone else, and having the food he ate and house he lived in and car he drove provided by that church. I never went to one of his services or remained in contact with him simply because apart from being a hypocrite, I didn't feel he was someone I could trust.

Catalina

I feel more than slightly tarred by this brush. My similarities to this person you describe stops with the word "man." I dont believe my faith is particularly stronger than anyone else's. As a matter of fact, i think i am a B+ pastor, and a C- minus Christian...at best. My skills with people and in th pulpit have little to do with the essence of my faith.

But i will say this--and before you start pontificating about my/our life again, please take this into account--i dont know how things will turn out between magalie and i, and we have discussed the very issues you have raised. and you are not the first to raise them. But--this whole thing has given me insights into myself that i would not trade for the world. I wish i was more perfect...and could learn without having my humanity get in the way, but there it is...i am human, yes a pastor, but a human one. Yes i am a hypocrite in many ways, but to date my church does not bar ANY hypocrite, or any other sinner from our doors.

Maybe i am making a big mistake now...maybe not. But if this is what it takes for me to get to my core problems, then so be it.

 

[shy slave]

Maybe i am making a big mistake now...maybe not. But if this is what it takes for me to get to my core problems, then so be it.

It is not often people look at their life, realise its not as they would wish it AND then make changes.

Many of us never get to the latter part.

Whatever the outcome, enjoy the journey