And it's Russia for the win!

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Is The Mueller Indictment A Joke?

by Francis Menton (retired partner, Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP)
[hint: if you don't know who Wilkie, Farr is, stop reading now]
"The Manhattan Contrarian"

...This may be the most absurd indictment ever issued in the name of the government of the United States.

Ever since the Mueller investigation of Russian "meddling" or "interference" or "collusion" or something like that began a year or so ago, you have probably been wondering, What the heck is the crime? Granted, there are 5000 or so supposed federal crimes out there. Nobody has any good idea what all of them are, and plenty of them are so vague that they might criminalize brushing your teeth on an angle. But still -- "meddling" or "collusion"? How could such things even be illegal?

So probably you are thinking, the answer must be in this indictment. Don't get your hopes up. As far as I can tell there is nothing real about this indictment at all.

Start with the basics: The defendants are all Russian citizens or companies. According to the allegations, at least a few of the individuals were present in the U.S. for brief periods of time to commit wrongful acts, but there is no reason to think that any of them are present here today. They are all in Russia. Does the U.S. have an extradition treaty with Russia? The answer is no. So none of the defendants can be forced to come here to stand trial. And if they can't be forced to come, they won't come. Why would they?

And once you know you are putting together an indictment against someone who will never stand trial, you know that you will never need to prove the allegations. So why bother sticking to anything remotely tethered to an actual crime, or for that matter, to reality? You can throw in whatever you feel like!

What are the charges? The big one is -- get ready for this -- 18 U.S.C. Section 371, "Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States":...




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Francis Menton is a litigation lawyer - retired from practise but still available for general counsell. The only significant issue is Who has him on retainer? The answer is, one of the likely major targets. I will leave you to find out who for yourself.

 

[bellisarius]

Francis Menton is a litigation lawyer - retired from practise but still available for general counsell. The only significant issue is Who has him on retainer? The answer is, one of the likely major targets. I will leave you to find out who for yourself.

Really? Why would they even bother to waste the money if they're NEVER going to stand trial?

Further the indictment goes on and on about Russian collusion/conspiracy, etc. And when we get to the charges they're all basically financially related in nature.

 

[Hypoxia]

Further the indictment goes on and on about Russian collusion/conspiracy, etc. And when we get to the charges they're all basically financially related in nature.

Recall Al Capone, brought low for fucking with taxes, not for running criminal enterprises. Elliott Ness didn't produce convictions; tax accountants did.

Yes, follow the money. Much of what we see so far looks like perjury re: tax evasion. The fun comes when the filthy lucre's source is traced. Russian cash sure implies that Tromp's campaign was bought, with collusion.

 

[WoundedKnee]

And just exactly when did this "cash collusion" (I love how the term is evolving) occur?

 

[Saint Peter]

“This indictment has nothing to do with the White House or the president. As you know, we have been cooperative with the special counsel and as we continue to see, there’s no evidence of collusion, no evidence of wrongdoing,”

Mercedes Schlapp
White House strategic communications director



The house of cards is tumbling.

 

[bellisarius]

“This indictment has nothing to do with the White House or the president. As you know, we have been cooperative with the special counsel and as we continue to see, there’s no evidence of collusion, no evidence of wrongdoing,”

Mercedes Schlapp
White House strategic communications director



The house of cards is tumbling.

Is the current theory that if only you keep repeating it, it will come true?

 

[Saint Peter]

Is the current theory that if only you keep repeating it, it will come true?

Just watching the rats jump off the ship. How many more will take deals to avoid long prison terms? If the threat of going to the Big House was not real, the asskissers would hold true to the Trump line.

His money will not protect them now and they know it. We know it. You know it.

 

[bellisarius]

Just watching the rats jump off the ship. How many more will take deals to avoid long prison terms? If the threat of going to the Big House was not real, the asskissers would hold true to the Trump line.

His money will not protect them now and they know it. We know it. You know it.

You and your friends sound like an old Dusty Springfield song, "Wishin' and Hopin'." Going on two years now and nothing, nada, zip. Pinning hopes on Manafort is going to yield little fruit. He was never part of Trump's inner circle and his association with the campaign was short lived. (early June - Aug. 19th) Manafort was moved out because of his Ukraine/Russian connections that Trump was made aware of at his first security briefing (Aug. 17th). Further, Manafort had NO previous business connections to Trump.

The whole mantra is roughly akin to tying Niel Young and Dennis Wilson to the Manson Family murders because they knew Charlie.

 

[Saint Peter]

You and your friends sound like an old Dusty Springfield song, "Wishin' and Hopin'." Going on two years now and nothing, nada, zip. Pinning hopes on Manafort is going to yield little fruit. He was never part of Trump's inner circle and his association with the campaign was short lived. (early June - Aug. 19th) Manafort was moved out because of his Ukraine/Russian connections that Trump was made aware of at his first security briefing (Aug. 17th). Further, Manafort had NO previous business connections to Trump.

The whole mantra is roughly akin to tying Niel Young and Dennis Wilson to the Manson Family murders because they knew Charlie.

Does Mueller want to toss Donnie in jail? No. The others? No. Mueller is sending a message to Americans that our system is being messed with.

This is not about Trump paying hookers to pee on the Russian bed that Obama slept on. It is not about his laundering of Russian organized crime money. It is about America being hacked and fucked with.

You do not want to hear the truth? Fine. It is a free country. The investigation will continue until it is complete if your head is buried in the sand or not.

 

[Sean]

You and your friends sound like an old Dusty Springfield song, "Wishin' and Hopin'." Going on two years now and nothing, nada, zip. Pinning hopes on Manafort is going to yield little fruit. He was never part of Trump's inner circle and his association with the campaign was short lived. (early June - Aug. 19th) Manafort was moved out because of his Ukraine/Russian connections that Trump was made aware of at his first security briefing (Aug. 17th). Further, Manafort had NO previous business connections to Trump.

The whole mantra is roughly akin to tying Niel Young and Dennis Wilson to the Manson Family murders because they knew Charlie.

The chairman of the president's election campaign was indicted yesterday for "conspiracy against the United States."

 

[Saint Peter]

Ain't singin' for Pepsi
Ain't singin' for Coke
I don't sing for nobody
Makes me look like a joke
This note's for you.

Ain't singin' for Miller
Don't sing for Bud
I won't sing for politicians
Ain't singin' for Spuds
This note's for you.

 

[Pookie]

The chairman of the president's election campaign was indicted yesterday for "conspiracy against the United States."

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CharmingAptBordercollie-size_restricted.gif

 

[BobBalouski]

The chairman of the president's election campaign was indicted yesterday for "conspiracy against the United States."

Alleged to have been committed years ago, when Trump didn't even know who Manafort was.

Poor seainepoo and his bro cuck pete...

Both socialist hacks wanna see Trump whacked so bad, but a special counsel and $millions$ so far have produced nothing but total wiffle ball swats. http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/images/smilies/jerkit.gif

 

[Pookie]

https://78.media.tumblr.com/9fdf06ebc59f0cc154c228dbd5429d7f/tumblr_oq6ff3fetP1tqkn68o3_500.gif

 

[Pookie]

http://wearethemighty.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Al6pv.gif

 

[Que]

Ain't singin' for Pepsi
Ain't singin' for Coke
I don't sing for nobody
Makes me look like a joke
This note's for you.

Ain't singin' for Miller
Don't sing for Bud
I won't sing for politicians
Ain't singin' for Spuds
This note's for you.

Well thanks, Pete. That's mighty Uppercase of you!

 

[Saint Peter]

Well thanks, Pete. That's mighty Uppercase of you!

I did not copy and paste Those Lyrics.

 

[cowslinger64]

Is the current theory that if only you keep repeating it, it will come true?

Same as your baseless theory? You, AJ, vette, botanydummy and qbert can spin your crap all you like.. Meanwhile people in trumps administration are being found guilty and Mueller is moving on up. Can you really not see that?

 

[St_mAnn]

Is the current theory that if only you keep repeating it, it will come true?

Benghazi! Emails!

Hmmm...

 

[St_mAnn]

Alleged to have been committed years ago, when Trump didn't even know who Manafort was.

Poor seainepoo and his bro cuck pete...

Both socialist hacks wanna see Trump whacked so bad, but a special counsel and $millions$ so far have produced nothing but total wiffle ball swats. http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/images/smilies/jerkit.gif

I would celebrate like it was 1999 if trump got "whacked". I think 98% of the planet would.

 

[Hypoxia]

Russian cash sure implies that Tromp's campaign was bought, with collusion.

And just exactly when did this "cash collusion" (I love how the term is evolving) occur?

I see you have a hard time with commas and clauses, the Eats, Shoots, And Leaves dilemma. Note that "...was bought, with collusion" does not equal "was bought with collusion". Cash, not collusion, was the medium of exchange. Greed, not politics, drove the collusion.

You and your friends sound like an old Dusty Springfield song, "Wishin' and Hopin'." Going on two years now and nothing, nada, zip.

One year. On maybe you have one of those 'special' calendars. And nada? Increasing indictments and guilty pleas. Ha.

Same as your baseless theory? You, AJ, vette, botanydummy and qbert can spin your crap all you like.. Meanwhile people in trumps administration are being found guilty and Mueller is moving on up. Can you really not see that?

Don't confuse them with old news.

Look, guns! Mass murder serves as a hot distraction from the cold justice enveloping this White House. A metaphor: The chickens squawk louder and flap furiouser as the fox nears the henhouse. Then, a bomb in the rabbit hutch! Everyone mourns the dead bunnies. But the fox still approaches...

I forget who currently holds the record for the most campaign and administration officials in prison. Was it Reagan or Dubya? Anyway, Tromp will beat that record by a YUUGE amount! Only the best, in prison gray!

 

[WoundedKnee]

I do note that you did not answer the question of when. Is it an inconvenient answer?

 

[Aglaopheme]

http://billmoyers.com/story/manafort-russia-timeline/

http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/

 

[Saint Peter]

http://billmoyers.com/story/manafort-russia-timeline/

http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/

A seriously tangled web.

 

[BobBalouski]

I would celebrate like it was 1999 if trump got "whacked". I think 98% of the planet would.

Just goes to prove the lives of relevant void Justin's Kids are sentenced to.

Why do wannabes like you and wanker queen sprout so much wood over American stuff that you have absolutely nothing to do with it?

(And will you please get ahold of slobber girl's breadwinner/life support up there and inform him she's out of her rubber room and posting here behind his back again? Thx.)