Anally raped to within a nanometre of my worthless little life.

[the captians wench]

Question:

how do you keep really really painful things from happening to your cock? I'd think a minimal spitlube might be a self-serving measure, no?

The one I so fondly refur to as "master asshole" only did dry anal. Of course there was only one time he ever used his dick in that maner. When he did, he tore himself a bit, and then yelled at me for being too damn tight. Well what do you expect when you refuse to fuck a girl and even cut back on playing with her with toys. asshole

 

[Netzach]

Okay, first off, WOW are we a bit defencive.

Second, I think I understand and might beable to help make it sound a bit more clear.

Because this is done with in a consitual atmosphere, she is in no real danger and there for it does not compair to if she were in real danger. The thoughts and feelings of what she feels with in the consitual situation can not possibly be compaired to those of a non consitual situation...

ie, don't worry about it chick-a-dee

close? or did I miss the boat too

That's what JM said. Which makes total sense to me as well.

 

[Primalex]

"All it does is state the logical fact, that you will not be in a worse situation than you would be, if you wouldn't like being hit by a baseball bat."

This provokes a giant "so what does that have to do with jack?" Rooted in a fair amount of logic.

Simple answer: This fact leads to the question what the concern about consensual rape play is, a question I've written in the first two postings already. Something you shouldn't have missed, if you had read them as closely as you pretend.

But hey, make pointless analogies, go on...

That you fail to see the point, does not make it pointless. Sorry.

 

[Netzach]

The concern may not be *gasp* rooted in logic, and not necessarily addressed with logic. You're treating someone's perfectly understandable hangup and emotional fallout, probably with a multitude of ADULT causes and effects they don't fully grasp like a three year old who thinks there's a monster, just point under the bed and shine a light and shut up already.

I hope you don't actually have to make anyone feel better about anything.

There is no logic to pouring logic on an emotional fire.

 

[JMohegan]

Click me.

What a fucking surprise.





Click me, too.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 

[Netzach]

I feel like we're standing in the kitchen at the party laughing now.

The thing is, I was trying to decide whether the question itself was more creepy than cretinous - I was thinking "creepy."

you just answered my wonderings.

 

[JMohegan]

I feel like we're standing in the kitchen at the party laughing now.

*HUGE grin*

Yes, that is EXACTLY what we're doing!

 

[BiaTcHiNFiRe]

Click me.

What a fucking surprise.





Click me, too.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

ROFL LMAO

 

[Netzach]

Dude I was thinking "creepy" the whole time I was just in the shower - and I was wrong! Should have played with myself 'stead of wondering.

 

[the captians wench]

Click me.

What a fucking surprise.





Click me, too.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

this is one of the many reasons why I wub you.

*giggles*

 

[Netzach]

I'm beginning to turn groupie oh noes.

 

[JMohegan]

I need to stop chuckling, try to erase the distracting mental imagery generated by post 84, and get ready for a meeting at 2.

Talk to you all later. to Wench, too!

 

[the captians wench]

I'm beginning to turn groupie oh noes.

We meet every tuesday night at 7pm. Newbies bring the wine.

 

[Primalex]

probably with a multitude of ADULT causes and effects they don't fully grasp like a three year old who thinks there's a monster, just point under the bed and shine a light and shut up already.

I hope you don't actually have to make anyone feel better about anything.

"There are several things that can be done to help children, including; reassuring them that they are safe and that the nightmare was not real."

"If the child is able to talk about the dream, then the parent could potentially help them to ‘rewrite’ the dream so that the child gains some level of mastery over what is scaring them."

Donald Gallo, Ph.D
Child and Family Treatment Program Kaiser Permanente


But hey, who cares about experts if there is your knowledge...

 

[MechaBlade]

Hell. Fucking. Yes.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Blimey, I turn my back on you lot for 5 minutes.

*Runs back through thread to catch up*

 

[Netzach]

Blimey, I turn my back on you lot for 5 minutes.

*Runs back through thread to catch up*

I know and it goes all GB on you. Sorry.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

There *is* a certain amount of fuckedupedness to a lot of the things that we do. I see value in honestly acknowledging that fact, and also in harnessing that fuckedupedness for erotic purposes.

But I also know that it can sometimes be difficult to strike a healthy mental balance between acknowledging and harnessing fuckedupedness on the one hand, and dealing with confusion, worry, and guilt on the other.

In post 29, you wrote: "If a man I truly had no sexual interest in took me with the same force, could I honestly say I would get no pleasure from it? At all? Given how much pain and humiliation arouse me? These are the kind of thoughts that have kept me up at night on a few occasions and after last night they cause me real concern."

The fact that this is keeping you up at night and causing you "real concern" is perfectly normal, understandable, natural, and a very common problem that many kinky people face.

I think it comes from being somewhat isolated. Master has no interest in local events and others who say they have been indoctrinated into certain aspects of kink have had a slight advantage IMO. Master and I are essentially as new to all this as each other.

I've kind of had a bit of a journey with kink. I was raised in a strict religious household (such a cliche ) and spent years assuming that my kink was somekind of throwback to the male dominated 'thou shalt' mentality of my erstwhile faith. The feminist in me diagnosed it as some kind of psychological problem that needed 'fixing.' It took me time to move on as a mature, sexually active adult and acknowledge that I enjoyed submission for it's own sake and oppressed no woman else in the process.

The last year has been something of a rollercoaster. I've progressed from D/s LDR to M/s LDR to my current status of TPE co-habiting slave. I have regretted none of this but I guess I still haven't lost 100% of the shame that I know my mother would have attached to how Master and I live. There is still the slight niggle that I have some kind of psychological problem and am going to spiral into something I'll regret on some level and things like the other night bring it to the surface for a while.

I'm sure I'll be fine. It has been so cathartic to discuss things with people who know where I'm coming from with all this.

I come at this from the other side of the coin, which means I spent a fair amount of time torturing myself with the thought: Oh my god, I'm no better than a rapist. Tremendously hot though rough partner-sex scenes may be, I know that the guilt can eat you alive from the inside out if you don't find a way to put it in perspective.

One thing to consider, Velvet, is the possibility that he feels torn between the desire to be compassionate in response to your concerns or needs, and the desire to be the badass, take-no-prisoners guy who gets you off. Figuring out how to do each, without compromising the other, can be tricky for some guys, especially in the nascent period of their kinky lives.

I know he's going through all this. His general response is that we know what we are doing, we practice kink safely and there is nothing to worry about. He was raised atheist so can't really empathize with my post-christianity fallout. I am still Christian - which irks him to distraction - but disagree with some tenets in my former faith and have no desire to sign up to another one.

He does read up on things, we both do. One of the reasons I've organized a London UK Litogether on another thread is to get us a few acquaintances that Master would feel comfortable opening up to. He's reluctantly letting me sammy him into that one.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I know and it goes all GB on you. Sorry.

You're forgiven.

But hey, who cares about experts if there is your knowledge...

For the record that was the only thing Primalex has said that I agree with. I'll take your and others' voice of experience over most people's.

Especially his.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Click me.

What a fucking surprise.





Click me, too.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You are indeed the man. I couldn't even have made up anything more fucking hysterical.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Question:

how do you keep really really painful things from happening to your cock? I'd think a minimal spitlube might be a self-serving measure, no?

Master did have a rather battered member the next day and he had the fucking cheek to complain about it. Doms! They're such babies.

 

[Netzach]

Well I had to wonder, and thanks to those who confirmed my suspicions that there's a price to be paid for dry reaming someone violently when your dick does not sit in your drawer. Idle curiosity sated.

 

[nh23]

No, I read it closely in hopes it might be less absurd than it seemed on first blush. I have high hopes.

I'm so sorry. That's like asking if she likes spanking because she "may be in a better situation than someone who doesn't" if someone should happen to beat her over the head. Not like what I posted before, my bad.

Sorry to hijack..just had to tell Netzach that I just pissed my pants reading that. *sighs* I can see why bunny has the crush she does..lol

 

[the captians wench]

"There are several things that can be done to help children, including; reassuring them that they are safe and that the nightmare was not real."

"If the child is able to talk about the dream, then the parent could potentially help them to ‘rewrite’ the dream so that the child gains some level of mastery over what is scaring them."

Donald Gallo, Ph.D
Child and Family Treatment Program Kaiser Permanente


But hey, who cares about experts if there is your knowledge...

the problem here is we are not talking about a child. The same psycology doesn't aply

 

[VelvetDarkness]

the problem here is we are not talking about a child. The same psycology doesn't aply

Applies to Primalex though. Don't go mocking the afflicted, it only encourages them.