An Intellectual Challenge to All Who Dare

The_Dragon_Tamer

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When I was in college, eons ago, one of my degrees was in English. I had an English professor who taught an American Literature Class. In this class the following poem was read and asked to be explained. My father went to college late in life and had this professor, as did my oldest brother and my self. The professor did not like any of us. Being the smartass I was then, after the professor gave his interpretation he asked about others. When I offerred what I thought it meant the professor just laughed and said it is poetry and you can read almost anything into it at times. I told him that Dr. Heminway (not Ernest) spoke to Mr. Frost about this very poem when he had lectured at the college and what I just said is what Mr. Frost told Dr. Hemminway. Never got more than a C in that class. I wonder why.


This poem has been greatly debated. My challenge to you is to tell me what the Poet Robert Frost was referring to in the poem below.



Design
by Robert Frost

I found a dimpled spider, fat and white,
On a white heal-all, holding up a moth
Like a white piece of rigid satin cloth--
Assorted characters of death and blight
Mixed ready to begin the morning right,
Like the ingredients of a witches' broth--
A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth,
And dead wings carried like a paper kite.
What had that flower to do with being white,
The wayside blue and innocent heal-all?
What brought the kindred spider to that height,
Then steered the white moth thither in the night?
What but design of darkness to appall?--
If design govern in a thing so small.
 
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The_Dragon_Tamer said:
When I was in college, eons ago, one of my degrees was in English. I had an English professor who taught an American Literature Class. In this class the following poem was read and asked to be explained. My father went to college late in life and had this professor, as did my oldest brother and my self. The professor did not like any of us. Being the smartass I was then, after the professor gave his interpretation he asked about others. When I offerred what I thought it meant the professor just laughed and said it is poetry and you can read almost anything into it at times. I told him that Dr. Heminway (not Ernest) spoke to Mr. Frost about this very poem when he had lectured at the college and what I just said is what Mr. Frost told Dr. Hemminway. Never got more than a C in that class. I wonder why.


This poem has been greatly debated. My challenge to you is to tell me what the Poet Robert Frost was referring to in the poem below.




Design
by Robert Frost

I found a dimpled spider, fat and white,
On a white heal-all, holding up a moth
Like a white piece of rigid satin cloth--
Assorted characters of death and blight
Mixed ready to begin the morning right,
Like the ingredients of a witches' broth--
A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth,
And dead wings carried like a paper kite.
What had that flower to do with being white,
The wayside blue and innocent heal-all?
What brought the kindred spider to that height,
Then steered the white moth thither in the night?
What but design of darkness to appall?--
If design govern in a thing so small.


I know there are many intellectual, smart and people with good common sense on these boards. Please the challenge has been presented. Not even on the internet will the real answer be found. Great so-called intellectuals have also gotten this wrong, reading more into it than what is really there.
 
PassionsFlame said:
mmmm.... the web?

Nay fair one, but you are on the right track as far as it being a one word answer, not inculding the indefinite article.

This clue I shall give it is something that is alive.

No one should be embarrased to try. Great so called scholars have over read into this and figured they knew all the answers and are wrong. Take a chance, I do this not to ridicule anyone, accept that one professor.


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Sioux City Male said:

Nay sir, but this is one of the Scholars interpretation and the corruption of the world is what Mr. Frost was referring to. I thank thee for accepting the challenge. Doth not give up.

A second clue I shall give to thee. Mr Frost is referring neither to a spider or a fly. He would see thing and people and events around him and explain them as in nature or through nature terms.



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ok, my first thought was birth, but i thought to say death instead,,,, so now i am going with my first thought and saying BIRTH
 
Regardless of the correct answer I think this poems rather nicely ponders the question of....fate.
 
coincidence is stuck in my mind. It's not alive, but ....hey, my brain is fried, I gotta go study my philosophy now. Would love to hear the correct response~if there is one.
 
I will reply to several at once in one post

Fair PAssions of Flame it be not order, if anything just the opposite, but that detracts from the subject of the poem

Fair Appleapps, you frighten me. Of all of the challengers you are the closest to the truth.

Fair Tendril, it does deal with fate, the fate of the subject and the unknown and unknowing.

There is one upon these boards who has given me the answer but prefers to remain silent at this time.



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The_Dragon_Tamer said:
Congratulations goes to the Fair Appleapps. That is the correct answer. This poem is one of few that Robert Frost ever explained to anyone. He came up with the poem when he had a baby sitting on his lap.


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wooooooo hooooooooooooooo,,,,, the baby just made sense when you closed off all noises and actually read it and heard the words :)
 
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