Amicus Rising… Part one…

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Two and a half hours on the operating table, none of which I remember, then several hours in the recovery room… with open appreciation for all six of my children, one taking time from work and flying from the east coast to the west, two others taking time from work and driving a hundred miles to spend the day; then waiting for the procedure to be completed.

Well wishes from dozens of friends and good thoughts from some on the General Board, places a burden on me to perhaps explain why the polar response to my notification of impending surgery…

I have never accepted the concept of a supreme being that created all that is, and lacking any evidence suggesting otherwise, I must look elsewhere for the purpose of life and a moral and ethical system to adhere to.

Many who hold a similar economic and moral philosophy, are uncomfortable with my lack of faith.

I am also not kind to them as, ‘faith’, and ‘belief’, are not viable substitutes for rational thought.

Abortion is an example: I hold that abortion, except as a necessity in saving the life of the mother, as a crime against humanity. Abortion also violates the fundamental premise of every moral system that has ever existed.

Human life is the foundation for all values and must be protected and nurtured at any expense. To take the life of an innocent human being without cause or due process is perhaps the greatest evil one can commit.
The instant the genes and chromosomes of two separate human beings merge, a new life is formed. It is a miracle of existence and grows in scope with each new understanding of human reproduction.

To those of faith, a new life is created by god and thus sacred. To those with no defined moral code, human life is not as valuable.

There can be no rational argument that life does not begin at the instant of conception; medical science has demonstrated otherwise.

Since women’s liberation became a topic of discussion, a half century ago, and more, for some, the act of sexual intercourse and the possible product of that, has been denigrated to nothing more than recreational sex with no consequences.

In the minds of many, myself included, women’s rights, abortion, free love, metro sex, et al, has acted to help destroy the nuclear family and nurtured the rise of single mothers and bisexual and homosexual activities.

Medical science states there are no, ‘gay’, genes, people are not born that way.

It is also unnatural, as nature dictates the continuation of species, procreation, as the single imperative, aside from staying alive.

Same sex couples cannot reproduce. Thus, by definition, it is an unnatural, against nature, relationship.

For this, and other reasons, eight out of ten of those born since 1980 have not married or had children.

The population of all western nations has declined and is declining as women are producing fewer children, less than replacement age.

One can support the concept that childbearing and nurturing in a two parent, male and female family, is not just a means of finding happiness and satisfaction in life, it is the only method.

Nurturing a child from birth to adulthood is not only the primary means of understanding morals and ethics, responsibility and consistency, it is the only means by which a child can learn, from his parents, how to become a responsible and moral member of society.

Single parent families statistically fail to bring a child to adulthood. The suicide rate is greater, the rate of crime is greater and the psychological health is poorer than those children with two parent families.

Perhaps you can understand how those who have, ‘beliefs’, contrary to what I state, and those of faith who are loathe to find morality in rational thought; who believe it is the province of a supreme being to determine right and wrong, are intensely emotional when I challenge and then refute their belief system.

There can be. By definition, no legitimate argument based on belief, to confront a rational, demonstrable argument of fact and reason.

In the thread I started to announce my surgery, one can find some very bitter and angry people.

I am not upset by the ugliness of some of those comments, quite the opposite; I applaud the emotion by which you express your opposition to the things I write about.

In part two, I will explain and justify racism, having an opinion of others based on skin color and ethnicity.

Be sure to tune in, same time, same station.

Thank you again for you kind consideration of my medical situation. May you never have to experience the things I have… cancer, detached retina and now, clogged arteries… all age related and just waiting for you.

Amicus VERITAS:rose:
 
Two and a half hours on the operating table, none of which I remember, then several hours in the recovery room… with open appreciation for all six of my children, one taking time from work and flying from the east coast to the west, two others taking time from work and driving a hundred miles to spend the day; then waiting for the procedure to be completed.

Well wishes from dozens of friends and good thoughts from some on the General Board, places a burden on me to perhaps explain why the polar response to my notification of impending surgery…

I have never accepted the concept of a supreme being that created all that is, and lacking any evidence suggesting otherwise, I must look elsewhere for the purpose of life and a moral and ethical system to adhere to.

Many who hold a similar economic and moral philosophy, are uncomfortable with my lack of faith.

I am also not kind to them as, ‘faith’, and ‘belief’, are not viable substitutes for rational thought.

Abortion is an example: I hold that abortion, except as a necessity in saving the life of the mother, as a crime against humanity. Abortion also violates the fundamental premise of every moral system that has ever existed.

Human life is the foundation for all values and must be protected and nurtured at any expense. To take the life of an innocent human being without cause or due process is perhaps the greatest evil one can commit.
The instant the genes and chromosomes of two separate human beings merge, a new life is formed. It is a miracle of existence and grows in scope with each new understanding of human reproduction.

To those of faith, a new life is created by god and thus sacred. To those with no defined moral code, human life is not as valuable.

There can be no rational argument that life does not begin at the instant of conception; medical science has demonstrated otherwise.

Since women’s liberation became a topic of discussion, a half century ago, and more, for some, the act of sexual intercourse and the possible product of that, has been denigrated to nothing more than recreational sex with no consequences.

In the minds of many, myself included, women’s rights, abortion, free love, metro sex, et al, has acted to help destroy the nuclear family and nurtured the rise of single mothers and bisexual and homosexual activities.

Medical science states there are no, ‘gay’, genes, people are not born that way.

It is also unnatural, as nature dictates the continuation of species, procreation, as the single imperative, aside from staying alive.

Same sex couples cannot reproduce. Thus, by definition, it is an unnatural, against nature, relationship.

For this, and other reasons, eight out of ten of those born since 1980 have not married or had children.

The population of all western nations has declined and is declining as women are producing fewer children, less than replacement age.

One can support the concept that childbearing and nurturing in a two parent, male and female family, is not just a means of finding happiness and satisfaction in life, it is the only method.

Nurturing a child from birth to adulthood is not only the primary means of understanding morals and ethics, responsibility and consistency, it is the only means by which a child can learn, from his parents, how to become a responsible and moral member of society.

Single parent families statistically fail to bring a child to adulthood. The suicide rate is greater, the rate of crime is greater and the psychological health is poorer than those children with two parent families.

Perhaps you can understand how those who have, ‘beliefs’, contrary to what I state, and those of faith who are loathe to find morality in rational thought; who believe it is the province of a supreme being to determine right and wrong, are intensely emotional when I challenge and then refute their belief system.

There can be. By definition, no legitimate argument based on belief, to confront a rational, demonstrable argument of fact and reason.

In the thread I started to announce my surgery, one can find some very bitter and angry people.

I am not upset by the ugliness of some of those comments, quite the opposite; I applaud the emotion by which you express your opposition to the things I write about.

In part two, I will explain and justify racism, having an opinion of others based on skin color and ethnicity.

Be sure to tune in, same time, same station.

Thank you again for you kind consideration of my medical situation. May you never have to experience the things I have… cancer, detached retina and now, clogged arteries… all age related and just waiting for you.

Amicus VERITAS:rose:

I'm sure glad God kept you alive so that you could spread your hatred. Praise be to Allah.
 
It has nothing to do with anger or hate...you're just a fucking asshole. It's good that garbage like you are being weeded out as the old school trash dies off. You represent what's wrong with this country.
 
Single parent families statistically fail to bring a child to adulthood.

I challenge you to produce some facts to back up this specious assertion.

Given your lengthy history of cowardice and deflection, though, I shan't hold my breath.

"Amicus Bullshitus Maximus"
 
It seems to me... and perhaps to others as well, that the very concept of religion itself spreads hatred and intolerance...

Not just the Protestants and Catholics at each others throats in Great Britain and Ireland... or the uncounted thousands of Catholic boy molesters, or the Islamic faith that is out to destroy Israel, and the Sunnis and the Shiites in the vapid middle east... or the Jihad on all westerners as Islam wants a world wide caliphate... one can easily make the case and document, that religion is the greatest evil ever to appear on earth.

there is no god


amicus
 
I challenge you to produce some facts to back up this specious assertion.

Given your lengthy history of cowardice and deflection, though, I shan't hold my breath.

"Amicus Bullshitus Maximus"
"Adulthood" is a subjective term in amicus's world.
 
You could have kept folks posted without going into all that extra stuff and kept it moving.

Was that really necessary? You just wanted to smear your beliefs at other people's faces.

You know exactly what you are doing.
 
It has nothing to do with anger or hate...you're just a fucking asshole. It's good that garbage like you are being weeded out as the old school trash dies off. You represent what's wrong with this country.

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Ah... but you see, the thirty some books I have published... will last forever

Not knowing you or your particular faith, but baby killers and buttfuckers calling me an asshole...

look in the mirror...

amicus the straight guy
 
You could have kept folks posted without going into all that extra stuff and kept it moving.

Was that really necessary? You just wanted to smear your beliefs at other people's faces.

You know exactly what you are doing.

~~~

You, my dear, can surely believe whatever you wish...

I am an honorable man with a well defined moral and ethical system that I have publically explained over radio and television and with thousands of Posts here and elsewhere.

There is good and evil in the world, even your myopic vision and see that, and I am one of the good guys, taking the time to explain to others why you are evil and one of the bad guys.

amicus one of the good guys...
 
"Adulthood" is a subjective term in amicus's world.

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I was an adult at age twelve when I ran from an abusive situation and became fully responsible for myself. I took on the responsibility of a, 'grown up', when I married and had a child at age nineteen.

The concept of adulthood is objective and easily defined, but far beyond your meager abilities...

are you not at least a bit ashamed at displaying your ignorance and hatred on a public forum?

amicus who always does the, 'right',. thing
 
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Ah... but you see, the thirty some books I have published... will last forever

Not knowing you or your particular faith, but baby killers and buttfuckers calling me an asshole...

look in the mirror...

amicus the straight guy

I looked...and I'm the guy that said you are a fucking asshole, and I'm right about it.


Love how suddenly I've had an abortion and I'm gay...you must be angry and hate me.

You're too stupid to have published anything other than a bunch of drivel....:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Notice how Cowardus Maximus responds to every post but mine.

That speaks volumes.

I know one of Cowardus' most cherished dreams is to write a best selling book....I think he could write the authoritarian volume on "Ducking and Weaving Away From Your Political Opponents"....after all, he could draw from a lifetime of experience in doing so.
 
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I was an adult at age twelve when I ran from an abusive situation and became fully responsible for myself. I took on the responsibility of a, 'grown up', when I married and had a child at age nineteen.

The concept of adulthood is objective and easily defined, but far beyond your meager abilities...

are you not at least a bit ashamed at displaying your ignorance and hatred on a public forum?

amicus who always does the, 'right',. thing
Maybe you should go and look up the meaning of "objective".
 
"metro sex"? :confused:

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courtesy of Wikipedia:

"Metrosexual is a neologism, derived from metropolitan and heterosexual, coined in 1994 describing a man (especially one living in an urban, post-industrial, capitalist culture) who is especially meticulous about his grooming and appearance, typically spending a significant amount of time and money on shopping as part of this.[1] The term is popularly thought to contrast heterosexuals who adopt fashions and lifestyles stereotypically associated with homosexuals, although, by definition given by the originator (see below), a metrosexual "might be officially gay, straight or bisexual."

always glad to help

amicus
 
Two and a half hours on the operating table, none of which I remember, then several hours in the recovery room… with open appreciation for all six of my children, one taking time from work and flying from the east coast to the west, two others taking time from work and driving a hundred miles to spend the day; then waiting for the procedure to be completed.

Well wishes from dozens of friends and good thoughts from some on the General Board, places a burden on me to perhaps explain why the polar response to my notification of impending surgery…

I have never accepted the concept of a supreme being that created all that is, and lacking any evidence suggesting otherwise, I must look elsewhere for the purpose of life and a moral and ethical system to adhere to.

Many who hold a similar economic and moral philosophy, are uncomfortable with my lack of faith.

I am also not kind to them as, ‘faith’, and ‘belief’, are not viable substitutes for rational thought.

Abortion is an example: I hold that abortion, except as a necessity in saving the life of the mother, as a crime against humanity. Abortion also violates the fundamental premise of every moral system that has ever existed.

Human life is the foundation for all values and must be protected and nurtured at any expense. To take the life of an innocent human being without cause or due process is perhaps the greatest evil one can commit.
The instant the genes and chromosomes of two separate human beings merge, a new life is formed. It is a miracle of existence and grows in scope with each new understanding of human reproduction.

To those of faith, a new life is created by god and thus sacred. To those with no defined moral code, human life is not as valuable.

There can be no rational argument that life does not begin at the instant of conception; medical science has demonstrated otherwise.

Since women’s liberation became a topic of discussion, a half century ago, and more, for some, the act of sexual intercourse and the possible product of that, has been denigrated to nothing more than recreational sex with no consequences.

In the minds of many, myself included, women’s rights, abortion, free love, metro sex, et al, has acted to help destroy the nuclear family and nurtured the rise of single mothers and bisexual and homosexual activities.

Medical science states there are no, ‘gay’, genes, people are not born that way.

It is also unnatural, as nature dictates the continuation of species, procreation, as the single imperative, aside from staying alive.

Same sex couples cannot reproduce. Thus, by definition, it is an unnatural, against nature, relationship.

For this, and other reasons, eight out of ten of those born since 1980 have not married or had children.

The population of all western nations has declined and is declining as women are producing fewer children, less than replacement age.

One can support the concept that childbearing and nurturing in a two parent, male and female family, is not just a means of finding happiness and satisfaction in life, it is the only method.

Nurturing a child from birth to adulthood is not only the primary means of understanding morals and ethics, responsibility and consistency, it is the only means by which a child can learn, from his parents, how to become a responsible and moral member of society.

Single parent families statistically fail to bring a child to adulthood. The suicide rate is greater, the rate of crime is greater and the psychological health is poorer than those children with two parent families.

Perhaps you can understand how those who have, ‘beliefs’, contrary to what I state, and those of faith who are loathe to find morality in rational thought; who believe it is the province of a supreme being to determine right and wrong, are intensely emotional when I challenge and then refute their belief system.

There can be. By definition, no legitimate argument based on belief, to confront a rational, demonstrable argument of fact and reason.

In the thread I started to announce my surgery, one can find some very bitter and angry people.

I am not upset by the ugliness of some of those comments, quite the opposite; I applaud the emotion by which you express your opposition to the things I write about.

In part two, I will explain and justify racism, having an opinion of others based on skin color and ethnicity.

Be sure to tune in, same time, same station.

Thank you again for you kind consideration of my medical situation. May you never have to experience the things I have… cancer, detached retina and now, clogged arteries… all age related and just waiting for you.

Amicus VERITAS:rose:

I see you've changed your tune slightly, obviously realizing you were spouting nonsense before, but you still seem to be trying to make it seem like a revelation that "eight out of ten of those born since 1980 have not married or had children." It's not. It's mostly biology. Most of them are too young to marry or have children, but eventually most of them will undoubtedly do one or the other, or both.
 
Abortion is an example: I hold that abortion, except as a necessity in saving the life of the mother, as a crime against humanity. Abortion also violates the fundamental premise of every moral system that has ever existed.

It violates most religous systems that exist.. it certainly doesnt violate existentianilism, Ayn Rands objectivism, nihilism, or buddhism

Human life is the foundation for all values and must be protected and nurtured at any expense. To take the life of an innocent human being without cause or due process is perhaps the greatest evil one can commit.

Except abortion isnt murder, no matter how much you stomp your feet and say otherwise


The instant the genes and chromosomes of two separate human beings merge, a new life is formed. It is a miracle of existence and grows in scope with each new understanding of human reproduction.

And is less then the size of a poppy seed for the first couple weeks. If a woman's menses are strong, she will" flush" out this " sacred human being"... you would consider this murder, but has occured since the dawn of humanity.

Your complete lack of understanding of reproduction..is a tad frightening

To those of faith, a new life is created by god and thus sacred. To those with no defined moral code, human life is not as valuable.

And if a persons code is different then yours.. does that make them less moral.. or you more of presumptious twat?

There can be no rational argument that life does not begin at the instant of conception; medical science has demonstrated otherwise.



There is literally no science whatsoever to support that life begins at conception


absolutely none

zero

zilch

this is science

yours is personal belief

Since women’s liberation became a topic of discussion, a half century ago, and more, for some, the act of sexual intercourse and the possible product of that, has been denigrated to nothing more than recreational sex with no consequences.

There is graffiti in the ancient ruins of Pompei depicting group sex.... you really need to start reading books which arent by Ayn Rand



Medical science states there are no, ‘gay’, genes, people are not born that way.

Medical science also states there are no heterosexual genes, people are not born straight either according to this fallacious logic

It is also unnatural, as nature dictates the continuation of species, procreation, as the single imperative, aside from staying alive.

There are literally hundreds of species that engage in homosexual activity... jesus christ man, have you ever done any research?

Same sex couples cannot reproduce. Thus, by definition, it is an unnatural, against nature, relationship.

See above, hundreds of species got teh gaiz

For this, and other reasons, eight out of ten of those born since 1980 have not married or had children.

Yet the population of the world has gone from just under 6 billion to just over 7 billion

The population of all western nations has declined and is declining as women are producing fewer children, less than replacement age.

there were 330 million people in the US in 1980.. there are now slightly under 400 million people in the states

once again, read a fucking a book

One can support the concept that childbearing and nurturing in a two parent, male and female family, is not just a means of finding happiness and satisfaction in life, it is the only method.

In a two parent household , yes.. but there is nothing to support opposite sex parents being better then same sex..in fact, studies have shown that lesbian couples have children that are far more well adjusted and perform scholastically better and later in life then their heterosexual counterparts




Perhaps you can understand how those who have, ‘beliefs’, contrary to what I state, and those of faith who are loathe to find morality in rational thought; who believe it is the province of a supreme being to determine right and wrong, are intensely emotional when I challenge and then refute their belief system.

Except nothing you've presented is based in fact..it is a ll conjecture based off your personal morality

you have said absolutely nothing that can't be refuted by science

There can be. By definition, no legitimate argument based on belief, to confront a rational, demonstrable argument of fact and reason.

read above.. you have provided no facts to your argument.. just your personal belief
 
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courtesy of Wikipedia:

"Metrosexual is a neologism, derived from metropolitan and heterosexual, coined in 1994 describing a man (especially one living in an urban, post-industrial, capitalist culture) who is especially meticulous about his grooming and appearance, typically spending a significant amount of time and money on shopping as part of this.[1] The term is popularly thought to contrast heterosexuals who adopt fashions and lifestyles stereotypically associated with homosexuals, although, by definition given by the originator (see below), a metrosexual "might be officially gay, straight or bisexual."

always glad to help

amicus

So a metrosexual is just a better dressed, better groomed republican.
 
It was only an angioplasty for fuck's sake. In in the morning, out the same afternoon. You were sedated but still awake, but you don't remember it because they gave you midazolam which keeps you calm and makes you forget. It's the same drug they use for a colonoscopy and for a dozen other similar low risk procedures. Same drug class as Valium. Millions of doses a day are given in hospitals all over the world.

No general anesthesia, no going "under the knife" except for a tiny cut in your arm or groin just big enough to slip the catheter in. You were in a cath lab, not on an "operating table" in a real surgical suite. No surgeon or anesthesiologist was needed, and recovery was most likely in a room across the hall for half an hour until they reversed the drug so you could talk without blithering (no chance there, but the doc has to try anyway), and start to remember again. And then you were moved to a normal room, most likely with a roommate because they wouldn't waste a private room for such a simple procedure unless it was a slow day. By then a tech only dropped in occasionally to check your BP because you were in no real danger, and the rest of the wait was for your cardiologist to get through his next case or two before coming in to tell you to go home.

Amicus the drama queen. Loosen up your panty hose; it's cutting off the blood flow to your brain.
 
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I have an idea for a new drinking game where each time amicus uses the phrase "medical science" I laugh-weep myself into a coma.
 
Two and a half hours on the operating table, none of which I remember, then several hours in the recovery room… with open appreciation for all six of my children, one taking time from work and flying from the east coast to the west, two others taking time from work and driving a hundred miles to spend the day; then waiting for the procedure to be completed.

Six children? You mean there's six of your lesser halves running around on the planet?

I pity the woman that allowed you to rut into her vagina and let your sperm take root. That surely must've been a harrowing experience. And Buddha bless any women that came from your seed. Having a sexist shitstain for a father couldn't have made for a pleasant upbringing.
 
Six children? You mean there's six of your lesser halves running around on the planet?

I pity the woman that allowed you to rut into her vagina and let your sperm take root. That surely must've been a harrowing experience. And Buddha bless any women that came from your seed. Having a sexist shitstain for a father couldn't have made for a pleasant upbringing.

Hey, at least they can live off the sales off his books, and not be a bunch of obana welfare flunkies.
 
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