Americans see economic inequality as a bigger threat than nuclear weapons

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Thursday, Oct 16, 2014 01:05 PM EDT

Americans see economic inequality as a bigger threat than nuclear weapons

Asked to name top threat to the world, a plurality of Americans say it's the gap between rich and poor

Luke Brinker


A plurality of Americans view economic inequality as the top threat confronting the globe, a new Pew Research Center survey finds.

Pew polled people in 44 countries for the survey. In the U.S., 27 percent of respondents named income inequality as the biggest danger to the world, followed by religious and ethnic hatred (24 percent), nuclear weapons (23 percent), pollution and the environment (15 percent), and AIDS and other disease (7 percent). Europe, which was also hard hit by the Great Recession and whose leaders have since embarked on an agenda of economic austerity, joined the U.S. in seeing economic inequality as the top global threat:

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The findings are part of Pew’s spring 2014 Global Attitudes poll. Earlier this month, Pew unveiled data from the survey showing that a plurality of Americans support raising taxes as a means of combating economic inequality.

The percentage of Americans naming inequality as the top global threat has increased sharply since the Great Recession. In 2007, just 17 percent of Americans told Pew that they considered inequality the biggest threat.

Pew did find a partisan divide in assessing global threats. While pluralities of Democrats (35 percent) and independents (25 percent) picked inequality as the top threat, a 35 percent plurality of Republicans chose religious and ethnic hatred. Among members of the GOP, inequality ranked third, at 21 percent, just behind nuclear weapons (25 percent).

Although Americans see inequality as a huge social and economic problem, studies show that they underestimate how extensive it is. Pundits like Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman have cited such studies to explain why so little political progress has been made in tackling the problem.
 
I'm guessing if you took all the rich people's money and divvied it up, we'd all have about 200 bucks.
 
If more people would actually see a nuclear weapon go off, it would climb the ladder pretty quick.
 
Economic inequalities lead to a whole host of other issues, such as child slavery, exploitation, military service, violence against women, domestic abuse, etc.
 
I'm guessing if you took all the rich people's money and divvied it up, we'd all have about 200 bucks.

And the rich people would have it all back by Christmas. ;)

Well it is a bigger threat than nuclear weapons.

Depends on how you define threat....and I don't really see what the "threat confronting the world" is.

If all economies shit right this instant it would suck for a couple years but for the most part we would all dust ourselves off and life goes on.

Can't do that with a bomb or plague. Those kids of things straight up end shit.....income disparity?? It sucks/causes/indicator of suck no doubt, but they aren't world/human civilization or even really nation endears like the others. Which leads me to believe there is some shit on someones shoe with this "out of all citrus plums are named the yummiest." poll.....I mean what the fuck is that anyhow?

I bet if you put permanent internet crash on the list it would be the deadliest threat ever known if you asked the right people. Hell I would put that as the biggest threat just for being asked to participate in such stupid.

Now if you want to define threat as

"Biggest threat facing the world"

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....yea I agree....income disparity is the biggest threat to my being able to blow shit loads of money on cool shit like lava lamps, iPhone 6 millions and a shopping sprees at the Depot, BB&B or whatever. No doubt.
 
And the rich people would have it all back by Christmas. ;)



Depends on how you define threat....and I don't really see what the "threat confronting the world" is.

If all economies shit right this instant it would suck for a couple years but for the most part we would all dust ourselves off and life goes on.

Can't do that with a bomb or plague. Those kids of things straight up end shit.....income disparity?? It sucks/causes/indicator of suck no doubt, but they aren't world/human civilization or even really nation endears like the others. Which leads me to believe there is some shit on someones shoe with this "out of all citrus plums are named the yummiest." poll.....I mean what the fuck is that anyhow?

I bet if you put permanent internet crash on the list it would be the deadliest threat ever known if you asked the right people. Hell I would put that as the biggest threat just for being asked to participate in such stupid.

Now if you want to define threat as

"Biggest threat facing the world"

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/228/703/first-world-problems-ii.jpg
EDITION.

....yea I agree....income disparity is the biggest threat to my being able to blow shit loads of money on cool shit like lava lamps, iPhone 6 millions and a shopping sprees at the Depot, BB&B or whatever. No doubt.

I don't think you understand income disparity. They're not talking about blow money, they're talking about things like child slavery, clean water shortages, preventable disease leading to high mortality- if you've ever had $200 at one time, you're richer than most people on the planet. We're talking sad starving baby commercial income disparity.
 
Economic inequalities lead to a whole host of other issues, such as child slavery, exploitation, military service, violence against women, domestic abuse, etc.

That's a negative? LOL man I must be really fucked in the head.....

I've still never had so much fucking fun in my life.
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That's a negative? LOL man I must be really fucked in the head.....

I've still never had so much fucking fun in my life.
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I was referring to global economic inequalities, not here in the U.S.
 
At 1 a.m. it is, and that's only because I've had a bit to drink, and I want some fucking pizza.
 
Depends on how you define threat....and I don't really see what the "threat confronting the world" is.
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....yea I agree....income disparity is the biggest threat to my being able to blow shit loads of money on cool shit like lava lamps, iPhone 6 millions and a shopping sprees at the Depot, BB&B or whatever. No doubt.

Threats are things that make my life less pleasant. I'm 99% confident that we are not going to nuke nor be nuked. There are a host of problems that stem from income inequality that I do have to deal with on our daily lives.

So as you put it's like the difference between worrying about an ebola outbreak and this years a vending machine. Except it's more like if the flu this year will be a nasty strain. Not a massive supper pandemic level flu, but one that knocks off an abnormal number of grannies and infants. Maybe an infant or grannie close to me.
 
Economic inequalities lead to a whole host of other issues, such as child slavery, exploitation, military service, violence against women, domestic abuse, etc.

No those have been eternal problems that having money makes go away....no problems caused by a lack of.

Actually come to think of it the happiest people I have met other than those well off, are those who reject the notion of money all together. I'm talking about the tribes in the jungles, the caravans in the desert and the hillbillies living in their mountain shack.

The folks who need money because dinner comes in a box...what the fuck else are they supposed to do??? Hurrrrr.....miserable fucks...bitch bitch bitch n' gimmie gimmie gimmie is all you ever here out the mother fuckers.

I don't think you understand income disparity. They're not talking about blow money, they're talking about things like child slavery, clean water shortages, preventable disease leading to high mortality-


Oh I do, I promise you my list of "resided in " 3rd world shit hole countries is extensive....I get income disparity, I've seen the child slavery, rampant disease, honor killings, kiddy fucking, genocide and 40 year old's who look 95 at best because life is fucking HARD ....seen it 1st hand. Smelled it too....*yak*

Why do you think I laugh when we talk about poverty in america?? LOL shit's a joke, you get food stamps? FUCKING RICH!!! RIIIIIIIIIIICH!!! because you don't have to raise a cow to feed yourself, that's why.

What you don't understand is that human suffering has always and will always be around ....it's not a threat to the species, civilization or even empire/nation/kingdom.

It's just suck...not decimation (threat like what it was competing against) to the whole. That's why I was saying I'm not so sure I'm really following what they mean by "threat the world faces". Define "threat"??

Because I grantee you 600 nukes going off right now or a disease taking half the human population over winter will be SIGNIFICANTLY more horrifying than all the income disparity you can shake a stick at. Like on a scale so drastic it's an oranges and black holes comparison.

WTF??:confused:

You can't even compare nukes to poverty...it's fucking absurd...1st world threats LOL

if you've ever had $200 at one time, you're richer than most people on the planet. We're talking sad starving baby commercial income disparity.

Hate to tell you this but that is the natural state of affairs for the majority of the history of the human species. Only in the past few hundred years has that changed at all and only for a select few who ended up becoming the industrialized 1st world nations we all know and enjoy living in today. Otherwise it's just a long tale of struggling against famine, disease, oppression and suffering.

I'm not saying income disparity doesn't suck...I'm saying it's being compared to a TOTALLY different group of threats, which set's my buushit detector off a lil bit.
 
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I was referring to global economic inequalities, not here in the U.S.

And what do global economic inequalities have to do with military service? :confused:

If' it's compulsory economics don't have a play in it....

If it's voluntary well that's their choice in which case wtf?

Threats are things that make my life less pleasant.

That is a huge range of shit.

I'm 99% confident that we are not going to nuke nor be nuked.

So why even compare it and a bunch of other ultra unlikely doomsday bullshit as a threat to a socioeconomic issue that's been around since antiquity and will likely persist long after we are all long dead and gone??

Does that not strike you as odd? Seems like some misleading bullshit to me...

So as you put it's like the difference between worrying about an ebola outbreak and this years a vending machine.

No it's like comparing the vending machine to a WMD....it's absurd...even given the vending machine is significantly more likely to kill you than the WMD.
 
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I didn't post the initial question. I agree that it's absurd. But I don't think your anology is proper here. The vending machine thing isn't likely either it's just more likely. The flu will happen this year, just like income disparity will. The question is how bad will the flue be this year.

And nobody (or virtually nobody) is talking about zero inequality. We are talking about a gap that is narrower than the one we currently have.
 
And what do global economic inequalities have to do with military service? :confused:



If' it's compulsory economics don't have a play in it....

If it's voluntary well that's their choice in which case wtf?

Poorer countries are typically dominated by more tribal leaders, many of whom have no problems whatsoever forcing young boys into military service. Kony, for example.
 
So you have to acknowledge that economics is certainly a factor.
 
So you have to acknowledge that economics is certainly a factor.

Actually, he doesn't but he should.

Do not underestimate the human ability to reject evidence that does not jibe with one's preconceptions.
 
I didn't post the initial question. I agree that it's absurd. But I don't think your anology is proper here. The vending machine thing isn't likely either it's just more likely. The flu will happen this year, just like income disparity will. The question is how bad will the flue be this year.

I see where you're at now with the analogy and totally agree with you...and I'm not saying you did post the initial question. I'm just sharing my "WTF is this shit?" thought about the initial question.

And tbh I've burnt a small fortune in hash tonight so it was a pretty hones "Does anyone else find this list of options kind ridiculous?"

And nobody (or virtually nobody) is talking about zero inequality. We are talking about a gap that is narrower than the one we currently have.

It would be nice....but ya know, want in one hand shit in the other.....

Poorer countries are typically dominated by more tribal leaders, many of whom have no problems whatsoever forcing young boys into military service. Kony, for example.

Ahh ok....I thought you were talking about real military's.....not gangs in uniforms but I understand now.

So you have to acknowledge that economics is certainly a factor.

Correlation does not imply causation....plenty of poor societies out there that don't force military servitude upon their people. Plenty that do as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription

And some of them are rather wealthy too (S.Korea, Finland, Denmark, Estonia, Austria) so based on that I can't really agree with you.
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Actually, he doesn't but he should.

Do not underestimate the human ability to reject evidence that does not jibe with one's preconceptions.

Why? Do you have evidence that poorer economic conditions = conscription? Because wiki sayz otherwise...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription

Poor or rich both practice conscription......add drafting during war time to the equation and shit gets muddy really fucking quick.

If you have something not from a fringe crazy source I'm open to it....but you are going to have to come up with something other than "Cuz is sayz so!" to convince me.
 
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