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America Can Persuade Israel to Make a Just Peace

April 21, 2002

By JIMMY CARTER




ATLANTA — In January 1996, with full support from Israel
and responding to the invitation of the Palestinian
Liberation Organization, the Carter Center helped to
monitor a democratic election in the West Bank and Gaza,
which was well organized, open and fair. In that election,
88 members were elected to the Palestinian National
Authority, with Yasir Arafat as president. Legally and
practically, the Palestinian people were encouraged to form
their own government, with the expectation that they would
soon have full sovereignty as a state.

When the election was over, I made a strong effort to
persuade the leaders of Hamas to accept the election
results, with Mr. Arafat as their leader. I relayed a
message offering them full participation in the process of
developing a permanent constitutional framework for the new
political entity, but they refused to accept this proposal.
Despite this rejection, it was a time of peace and hope,
and there was no threat of violence or even peaceful
demonstrations. The legal status of the Palestinian people
has not changed since then, but their plight has grown
desperate.

Ariel Sharon is a strong and forceful man and has never
equivocated in his public declarations nor deviated from
his ultimate purpose. His rejection of all peace agreements
that included Israeli withdrawal from Arab lands, his
invasion of Lebanon, his provocative visit to the Temple
Mount, the destruction of villages and homes, the arrests
of thousands of Palestinians and his open defiance of
President George W. Bush's demand that he comply with
international law have all been orchestrated to accomplish
his ultimate goals: to establish Israeli settlements as
widely as possible throughout occupied territories and to
deny Palestinians a cohesive political existence.

There is adequate blame on the other side. Even when he was
free and enjoying the full trappings of political power,
Yasir Arafat never exerted control over Hamas and other
radical Palestinians who reject the concept of a peaceful
Israeli existence and adopt any means to accomplish their
goal. Mr. Arafat's all-too-rare denunciations of violence
have been spasmodic, often expressed only in English and
likely insincere. He may well see the suicide attacks as
one of the few ways to retaliate against his tormentors, to
dramatize the suffering of his people, or as a means for
him, vicariously, to be a martyr.

Tragically, the policies of Mr. Sharon have greatly
strengthened these criminal elements, enhanced their
popular support, and encouraged misguided young men and
women to sacrifice their own lives in attacking innocent
Israeli citizens. The abhorrent suicide bombings are also
counterproductive in that they discredit the Palestinian
cause, help perpetuate the military occupation and
destruction of villages, and obstruct efforts toward peace
and justice.

The situation is not hopeless. There is an ultimate avenue
to peace in the implementation of United Nations
resolutions, including Resolution 242, expressed most
recently in the highly publicized proposal of Saudi
Arabia's Crown Prince Abdullah. The basic premises of these
resolutions are withdrawal of Israelis from Palestinian
lands in exchange for full acceptance of Israel and
Israel's right to live in peace. This is a reasonable
solution for many Israelis, having been accepted in 1978 by
Prime Minister Menachem Begin and ratified by the Israeli
Knesset. Egypt, offering the greatest threat to Israel,
responded by establishing full diplomatic relations and
honoring Israeli rights, including unimpeded use of the
Suez canal. This set a pattern for what can and must be
done by all other Arab nations. Through constructive
negotiations, both sides can consider some modifications of
the 1967 boundary lines.

East Jerusalem can be jointly administered with unimpeded
access to holy places, and the right of return can be
addressed by permitting a limited number of displaced
Palestinians to return to their homeland with fair
compensation to others. It will be a good investment for
the international community to pay this cost.

With the ready and potentially unanimous backing of the
international community, the United States government can
bring about such a solution to the existing imbroglio.
Demands on both sides should be so patently fair and
balanced that at least a majority of citizens in the
affected area will respond with approval, and an
international force can monitor compliance with agreed
peace terms, as was approved for the Sinai region in 1979
following Israel's withdrawal from Egyptian territory.

There are two existing factors that offer success to United
States persuasion. One is the legal requirement that
American weapons are to be used by Israel only for
defensive purposes, a premise certainly being violated in
the recent destruction of Jenin and other villages. Richard
Nixon imposed this requirement to stop Ariel Sharon and
Israel's military advance into Egypt in the 1973 war, and I
used the same demand to deter Israeli attacks on Lebanon in
1979. (A full invasion was launched by Ariel Sharon after I
left office). The other persuasive factor is approximately
$10 million daily in American aid to Israel. President
George Bush Sr. threatened this assistance in 1992 to
prevent the building of Israeli settlements between
Jerusalem and Bethlehem.

I understand the extreme political sensitivity in America
of using persuasion on the Israelis, but it is important to
remember that none of the actions toward peace would
involve an encroachment on the sovereign territory of
Israel. They all involve lands of the Egyptians, Lebanese
and Palestinians, as recognized by international law.

The existing situation is tragic and likely to get worse.
Normal diplomatic efforts have failed. It is time for the
United States, as the sole recognized intermediary, to
consider more forceful action for peace. The rest of the
world will welcome this leadership.


Jimmy Carter, the former president, is chairman of the
Carter Center, which works worldwide to advance peace and
human health.
 
I am so proud that I actually got to shake this man's hand.

Mr. Bush? Are you listening?
 
We need to hear more...

honest and balanced words coming from America.

It greatly increases her inflence and standing if she can be seen and heard to be fair to both sides.

There are others over that side of the Atlantic I'm sure. Jimmy Carter is not alone.

What the rest of us would like though, is to hear their voices too...

ppman
 
Never knew you were a fan of our peanut former President. Wait. Are you? Personally, I love the man.
 
I am waiting for someone to tell me that the Jimmy Carter administration was the ONLY uncorrupt administration since who?

Nixon was corrupt as hell. LBJ? Corrupt. Kennedy? Probably corrupt. I was born in '63 so I can go any further back?

Eisenhower. Probably corrupt. Truman? Clueless.
 
Are you people reading this or just perving on my av? LOL
 
Ah, the Carter years. When you could get a 3 month treasury bill paying 13% interest. Those were the days.
 
I read this (and perv'd on your av) and you could not be more right. Jimmy was quite possibly one of the best presidents we shall ever have. And i find it sad that people remember him as the peanut president, as opposed to remembering the great man he was in the oval office. His foreign policy was brilliant.
You shook his hand?! Now I am truly jealous.
 
Jimmy Carter never had what it took to be an effective President, ruthlessness. He has what it takes to be a good man, however, compassion. Politicians regard principles as obstacles to be overcome.
 
WriterDom said:
Ah, the Carter years. When you could get a 3 month treasury bill paying 13% interest. Those were the days.

Now here's a man who votes with his wallet!
A question of priorities, I suppose..... :)
 
GreenEyedGirl said:
I read this (and perv'd on your av) and you could not be more right. Jimmy was quite possibly one of the best presidents we shall ever have. And i find it sad that people remember him as the peanut president, as opposed to remembering the great man he was in the oval office. His foreign policy was brilliant.
You shook his hand?! Now I am truly jealous.

Can't say I agree with you on his presidency. The timing was good... the timing was wrong. I just wonder what he could have accomplished at a different time. You are right. He was a great president- the world was just wrong.

So what does this mean? We are condemned to have liars for presidents?

When I think of Jimmy Carter, I think of all the things I love about America. He was, and always will be, one of a kind. I admire so much what he is doing now, what he stands for. He is principled.

Carter 2004? Wouldn't that be something? I would vote for him in a heartbeat.
 
WriterDom said:
Ah, the Carter years. When you could get a 3 month treasury bill paying 13% interest. Those were the days.

those days followed 8 years of republican leadership...after carter we got 12 more that yielded the greatest federal deficit ever imagined (actually, the numbers are beyond imagination)

i agree, riff...carter was the best and most human president of the modern era...not only was he free from corruption but he also forsaw all of our oil and energy woes to come

his problem was that he planned for the good of america for the long run, not the best for his party for the election in four years...it's sad but we don't really want honesty from our leaders...we want to be told things to make us feel good

ronald reagan was the ultimate proof of that
 
heh.

Just thinking: Jimmy Carter Superstar (JCS) Jesus Christ Superstar

:)
 
sigh said:

carter was the best and most human president of the modern era...not only was he free from corruption but he also forsaw all of our oil and energy woes to come

his problem was that he planned for the good of america for the long run, not the best for his party for the election in four years...it's sad but we don't really want honesty from our leaders...we want to be told things to make us feel good


Exactly what I thought and could not type.
I never have been able to talk politics very well.



And JCSS! Jimmy Carter Super Star! I'm laughing so hard I am crying. Oh, I needed that!
 
riff said:


Now here's a man who votes with his wallet!
A question of priorities, I suppose..... :)


Wasn't just me. 45 or so of the 50 states sent him home to the peanut farm. The memory of the Carter years was enough for Ronnie to carry every state but one in 1984.

Unlike Gore, Mondale did carry his home state.
:D
 
P_P_ our new Resident Bush has told those voices to be quiet least they be labeled undermining the system. It is considered unamerican by this administration to have a descenting opinion these days. I think people are finally seeing the error of this and starting to speak out again but since 9/11 we have had to tip toe around.
 
WriterDom said:
Ah, the Carter years. When you could get a 3 month treasury bill paying 13% interest. Those were the days.
As I recall the prime lending rate was 21% or was that the mortgage rate at the time? That man did have a streak of bad luck a victim of History. And ...........I voted for him:D
 
JIMMY burned by spark

In January 1996, with full support from Israel
and responding to the fucking invitation of the fucking Palestinian
Liberation Organization, the fucking Carter Center helped to
monitor a goddamn democratic election in the fucking West Bank and Gaza,
which was well organized, open and fair. You are a shithole. In that election,
88 members were elected to the fucking Palestinian National
Authority, with Yasir Arafat as president. Which is deeper, your smoked colon or your total mound? Legally and
practically, the fucking Palestinian people were encouraged to fuckin' form
their own government, with the fucking expectation that them dildos would
soon have full sovereignty as a fuckin' state.

When the fucking election was over, I made a goddamn strong effort to fuckin'
persuade the fucking leaders of Hamas to fuckin' accept the fucking election
results, with Mr. Arafat as their leader. What's wrong with you? I relayed a
jizz-stain offering them shits full participation in the fucking process of
developing a motherfucking permanent constitutional framework for the fucking piece of shit new
political entity, but them dickheads refused to accept this bullshit proposal.
Despite this bullshit rejection, that shit was a time of peace and hope,
and there was no motherfucking threat of violence or even peaceful
demonstrations. You are a fuckhead. The fucking legal status of the fucking Palestinian people
has not changed since then, shit,, but their plight has grown
desperate.

Ariel Sharon is a strong and forceful shit-ass bastard and has never
equivocated in that bastard's public declarations nor deviated from
that bastard's ultimate purpose. You are a total cream-filled cracked pussy. His rejection of all peace agreements
that included Israeli withdrawal from Arab lands, that bastard's
invasion of Lebanon, that bastard's provocative visit to the fucking Temple
Mount, the fucking destruction of villages and homes, the fucking arrests
of thousands of Palestinians and that bastard's open defiance of
President George W. I should wallop your neck. Bush's demand that he comply with
international law have all been orchestrated to fuckin' accomplish
that bastard's ultimate goals: to establish Israeli settlements as
widely as possible throughout occupied territories and to
deny Palestinians a cohesive political existence. You are a has-been pukey fuckmonster.

The fucking situation is not hopeless. You are a cock. There is an ultimate avenue
to fuckin' peace in the fucking implementation of United Nations
resolutions, including Resolution 242, expressed most
recently in the fucking highly publicized proposal of Saudi
Arabia's Crown Prince Abdullah. Which is deeper, your slapped throat or your wanna-be anus? The fucking basic premises of these
resolutions are withdrawal of Israelis from Palestinian
lands in exchange for full acceptance of Israel and
Israel's right to live in peace. This bullshit is a motherfucking reasonable
solution for many Israelis, having been accepted in 1978 by
Prime Minister Menachem Begin and ratified by the fucking Israeli
Knesset. What's wrong with you? Egypt, offering the fucking greatest threat to fuckin' Israel,
responded by establishing full diplomatic relations and
honoring Israeli rights, including unimpeded use of the fucking
Suez canal. What's wrong with you? This bullshit set a pattern for fuckin' what can and must be
done by all other Arab nations. Through constructive
negotiations, both sides can consider some modifications of
the fucking 1967 boundary lines.

East Jerusalem can be jointly administered with unimpeded
access to fuckin' holy places, and the fucking right of return can be
addressed by permitting a motherfucking limited number of displaced
Palestinians to fuckin' return to their homeland with fair
compensation to fuckin' other monkey-spankers. That shit will be a GOOD investment for
the fucking international community to fuckin' pay this bullshit cost.

With the fucking ready and potentially unanimous backing of the fucking
international community, the fucking United States government can
bring about such a motherfucking solution to the fucking existing imbroglio.
Demands on both sides should be so god-damn patently fair and
balanced that at least a majority of citizens in the fucking
affected area will respond with approval, and a goddamn
international force can monitor compliance with agreed
peace terms, as was approved for the fucking Sinai region in 1979
following Israel's withdrawal from Egyptian territory. Mind if I neglect your porkhole?

There are two existing factors that offer success to fuckin' United
States persuasion. One is the fucking legal requirement that
American weapons are to fuckin' be used by Israel only for
defensive purposes, a motherfucking premise certainly being violated in
the fucking recent destruction of Jenin and other villages. I should snap your throat. Richard
Nixon imposed this bullshit requirement to fuckin' stop Ariel Sharon and
Israel's military advance into Egypt in the fucking 1973 war, and I
used the fucking same demand to fuckin' deter Israeli attacks on Lebanon in
1979. Which is deeper, your bloody face or your pukey mound? --------------------------------
Burned by the Burnmaker!
* http://toy.thespark.com/burn *
--------------------------------
 
I too shook Jimmy Carter's hand and am proud to have met him. He is the last honest man we will see in the White House I fear. His gentle wisdom and tireless work towards peace in the middle East is awesome and admirable. The bozo from Texas is an idiot not to lose the party bias and let him represent the US in the peace talks. He is one of the most informed and knowledgeable resources we have. Of course then GW would have to admit he knows dip about international relations. But then again GW makes Gomer Pyle look like a genius.
 
Carter did a shitload of work in the mid-east with Sadat and Bagin or whatever his name was.

Shit. Fucking politics. Meanwhile, people die and children cry.
 
I will agree that he was a wonderful president and is also a great man. I don't live far from his home and know him personally. There were problems with his presidency, of course, but no one has done it perfect so far.

Dawn
 
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