Amazing

[NOIRTRASH]

I'm no Ian Fleming fan but his FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE is stunning.

SMERSH trains a serial killer and a whore to kill James Bond.

Fleming wrote nothing like it before or after.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CidOZOzHKn8

SEAN CONNERY was the real Bond

 

[lovecraft68]

Bond is an eye roller for me. No one ever simply walks up behind him and shoots him, no whore has ever shot him in his sleep, or hell, bitten his cock off and left him to bleed out.

I can't stand phony baloney characters who are 'to cool' to die.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmTs5bF0-mQ

 

[SusanJillParker]

Huh? What are you crazy JB? Have you lost what little mind you have left?

A Scotsman as James Bond (lol)? No frigging way. That's sacrilegious.

The real Bond, James Bond, is and will always be Roger Moore.

Further, the real bond woman is Ursula Andress coming out of the water in Dr. No. in that beach scene in 1962.

Rated X, that scene was shocking for that time, as shocking as Caligula or the Last Tango in Paris.

 

[lovecraft68]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmTs5bF0-mQ

Point proven. Yak yak yak...only in Hollywood do professional killers yap away. Boring.

 

[SusanJillParker]

The only one who would have made for a better Bond, James Bond, than Roger Moore, was the late, great David Niven.

Now, that I think of it, could you imagine Richard Burton or Peter O'Toole as Bond, James Bond?

Forget about killing someone with their knives or guns, they would have killed them with their verbosity (lol).

 

[lovecraft68]

The only one who would have made for a better Bond, James Bond, than Roger Moore, was the late, great David Niven.

Now, that I think of it, could you imagine Richard Burton or Peter O'Toole as Bond, James Bond?

Forget about killing someone with their knives or guns, they would have killed them with their verbosity (lol).

Jason Stratham would have made Bond an actual bad ass. The rest were all pretty boy wimps. Except for Connery who was just an arrogant dink.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Hunphey Bogart

 

[SusanJillParker]

Jason Stratham would have made Bond an actual bad ass. The rest were all pretty boy wimps. Except for Connery who was just an arrogant dink.

I agree about Jason Stratham being a bad ass but Bond was more than that.

He was refined. He was educated. He was cultured. He was sex and civilized with women before becoming a monster with men.

 

[SusanJillParker]

Hunphey Bogart

Only, we'd never understand a word he said. In that regard, Lauren Bacall would have made for a better Bond, Jane Bond (lol).

I'm just grateful that Hollywood spared us in not making Elvis one of the Bond characters. I can only imagine.

 

[lovecraft68]

I agree about Jason Stratham being a bad ass but Bond was more than that.

He was refined. He was educated. He was cultured. He was sex and civilized with women before becoming a monster with men.

True, he had the persona of a gentlemen killer. But as my wife has told me on several occasions, Stratham dresses up quite well.

I think Bond is a little bit product of the times. These days everything is about gritty reality and dark anti heroes. People don't crave refined they crave depraved. Also when Bond was originally created the 'bad boy' was not popular with women, at least not that they would admit.

Now the bad boy is everything.

 

[ishtat]

You cannot take Roger Moore seriously as 007 once someone informs you that his first actor/model job was modelling knitting patterns for cardigans in Women's magazines.

 

[SusanJillParker]

You cannot take Roger Moore seriously as 007 once someone informs you that his first actor/model job was modelling knitting patterns for cardigans in Women's magazines.

He could model an Alaskan parka with a hood over his head and he'd still look sexy doing it (lol).

Some men just have it, no matter what they wear...or don't wear (lol).

 

[NOIRTRASH]

True, he had the persona of a gentlemen killer. But as my wife has told me on several occasions, Stratham dresses up quite well.

I think Bond is a little bit product of the times. These days everything is about gritty reality and dark anti heroes. People don't crave refined they crave depraved. Also when Bond was originally created the 'bad boy' was not popular with women, at least not that they would admit.

Now the bad boy is everything.

Naaah. Women made Sean Connery and Clint Eastwood famous. Ditto Paul Newman.

 

[ChloeTzang]

The guy Ian Fleming modelled James Bond on was something else tho. I can't remember his name but my partner has a book about him somewhere. I'll see if he remembers if anyone's interested.

 

[sr71plt]

The guy Ian Fleming modelled James Bond on was something else tho. I can't remember his name but my partner has a book about him somewhere. I'll see if he remembers if anyone's interested.

I think the jury is still out on who, if one person, was the model. A couple of names are still being bandied about. For me, Sean Connery embodied all of the elements of James Bond.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I think the jury is still out on who, if one person, was the model. A couple of names are still being bandied about. For me, Sean Connery embodied all of the elements of James Bond.

You're right of course, there were a few. I can't remember and it was fascinating. I'm going to dig it up and skim it again.

 

[lovecraft68]

Compared to the that Kingsmen crap that came out not that long ago, Bond was realistic.

 

[49greg]

You cannot take Roger Moore seriously as 007 once someone informs you that his first actor/model job was modelling knitting patterns for cardigans in Women's magazines.

Roger Moore was a different Bond, I think they went for humor as much as anything else when he was in. My first exposure to Moore was the TV series "Ivanhoe" when he played, well, Ivanhoe.

As for modelling knitting patterns ... consider Sean Connery. The best Bond in my opinion, but he did do some sort of modelling or maybe bodybuilding before he got into movies. I saw a pic of him on the late great "Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson", in a teeny swim suit with a cute hat. Ferguson made some sort of cute comment that escapes me now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CidOZOzHKn8

SEAN CONNERY was the real Bond

Yes. I remember reading the books, before I saw the movies. It must have been in the early sixties. As I recall the book Bond was recruited after ww2. He was basically a thug and killer that 'they' trained to appear suave/debonair. Connery was great and I think he fit the book description best.

In general I think the movies made bond more of a pretty boy than he was in the books.

And of course the best book and best movie was/is "From Russia with Love".

I like the latest guy - Daniel Craig - he's more like Connery, but the movies now days aren't that good, all action and explosion, not that much on acting and plot.

 

[legerdemer]

Personally, I prefer Roger Moore (that eyebrow lift) to Sean Connery as Bond, but I first saw Moore in The Saint as a pre-teen, and fell in lust. Pierce Brosnan was a terrific Bond as well. Both had a somewhat smoother feel than Connery or Daniel Craig, both of whom I like but don't love.
I loved Connery in The Russia House, a more realistic Cold War spy flick. His chemistry was Michelle Pfeiffer in that was so much more realistic, and palpable.

The thing is, sex appeal is not an absolute, it's more of an " in the moment" thing - and I wouldn't turn any of these guys away.

 

[sr71plt]

My view of Bond is an athletic assassin spy at the foundation with the ability to be tarted up well in a tux and be proficient, but dominant in bed. Even when cleaned up, I want to see that the thuggish edge still there. So, it's either Connery or Craig. I like to be able to see the touch of humor and playfulness too, which I see in Connery, but not in Craig.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

You're right of course, there were a few. I can't remember and it was fascinating. I'm going to dig it up and skim it again.

He's wrong per usual.

Ian Fleming revealed the Bond inspiration in a 007 prolog. I saw it and thought MEH. I forgot the name but it was no mystery man. I wanna say Fleming wanted to create a Brit Philip Marlowe, but Ratmond Chandler was raised in England.

 

[sr71plt]

He's wrong per usual.

Ian Fleming revealed the Bond inspiration in a 007 prolog. I saw it and thought MEH. I forgot the name but it was no mystery man. I wanna say Fleming wanted to create a Brit Philip Marlowe, but Ratmond Chandler was raised in England.

No you didn't. As usual, you're just making it up to be contrary. Goggle the issue; you'll find different names are still being bandied about. Cite your evidence.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj6cc0T1z7I

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